Putin's Advisor speaks about Ukraine

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  1. Roon

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    I have a feeling the US stepped in some (*)(*)(*)(*) and does not quite realize the trouble it is in yet.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-08/how-putins-advisor-sees-ukraine-crisis-playing-out

     
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    "I have a feeling the US stepped in some (*)(*)(*)(*) and does not quite realize the trouble it is in yet."

    I have this feeling too. What is next? Down with the sanctions and let Ukraine to solve her problems. This is not a sustainable nation. The best way out would be negotiations on equal and friendly footing with Russia, China and India.
     
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    My understanding is that western Europe has been a farming-heavy economy for some time now. The EU travel and work arrangements really enabled low-skilled labor (not that farming is super-low skill) without moving the bar much for high-skilled industries because people with certain skills could get a job anywhere even before the EU deals went through.
     
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    I don't think Obama is capable of negotiating with any nation on an equal footing. I think he's going insane. ..of the ego maniac kind, not the megalomaniac kind. He can't cope so every time he faulters, especially in comparison to Putin, he compensates by raising his ego one notch. :oldman:

    (I'm just guessing you know).
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    Putin is much smarter than Obama and US politicians. He knows he can not directly impact the US enough to make a difference. He can however hurt the EU to the point that they stop backing the US in their bid to take over the world. Turning the world against the US is something Putin can do and that is what we are seeing.
     
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    NO, that would be Adolf Putin.
     
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    I think you're right in that Obama is incapable, but it's because of incompetence and a lack of understanding world affairs, not a mental illness.
     
  8. Face. Your

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    lol abject nonsense and classic blame the victim propaganda, there is no 28 nation block to join there is the Eurasian Economic Union which consists entirely of Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Russia. The US did not organize any wars in the region and certainly not the current situation in the Ukraine despite the Kremlin and Putin's cult of personality continuously regurgitating the PROVEN lie that the US helped to fund the protesters. In fact the contrary is true, it was Russia that started all of this first with economic warfare in order to prevent the Ukraine's right to self determination which prompted peaceful protests supported by the majority of Ukrainians which resulted in a Russian puppet at the direct behest of Putin, sending in his jack booted thugs to attack and murder the protesters which resulted in his impeachment followed by his treasonous self imposed exile to Russian occupied territory, then what happened next is Russia invaded, occupied, installed an occupation government with Spec Ops holding AKs and rocket launchers in the Crimean parliamentary building during the swearing in of a new Crimean "prime minister" and this was followed by the outright illegal annexation of sovereign Ukrainian territory by the Russian Federation through a fraudulent and illegal referendum in which only two options were offered cessation or annexation rather than maintaining the status quo and which did not allow for the majority of Ukrainians to participate in direct violation of both the Ukrainian and Crimean Constitutions.
     
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    This is freaking laughable coming from a die hard member of Putin's cult of personality, a man who just cut off nearly half of his nations food supply in a desperate attempt to strike back against the crippling sanctions being levied against his authoritarian aggressor state but will not harm the West in the slightest due to their well diversified economies whose GDP does not rely in the slightest upon exports to Russia (well maybe a miniscule amount but not in an economically damaging capacity) but will exponentially reduce the average Russian's standards of living.
     
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    He can not hurt the EU to any measurable degree, their economies are not reliant upon exports to Russia, hell for the most part they are not even reliant upon exports what so ever let alone the 10 percent of exports (which is appx. the highest export rate to Russia within from any Western Country) which go to Russia, they will find other consumers. Furthermore; Putin could cut the gas but once again the EU has a diversified energy sector and can easily switch to other sources, providers, and their own reserves, however, Putin will never cut off his gas lines because if he did his economy would collapse over night.
     
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    I'm fairly sure that EU education levels surpass even that of the US prior to University that is.
     
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    Yes let the Ukraine solve their problems, the biggest problem right now is that Russia is illegally occupying their land and funding, arming, and training terrorists who are mass murdering citizens and committing ethnic cleansing in the Crimea. This ENTIRE situation is due to Russian interventionism, I guess Ron Paul acolytes have no problem with interventionism so long as it is done in antithesis to Western interests, but that's not shocking considering that both Ron Paul and Vlad Putin supporters are members of a cult of personality.
     
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    Nobody unlike the dozen or so comintern agents who just happened to show up on this forum during the Euromaidan protests and do nothing but post straight Kremlin propaganda. I have not posted one lie, facts are stubborn things.
     
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    lol abject nonsense and classic blame the victim propaganda, there is no 28 nation block to join there is the Eurasian Economic Union which consists entirely of Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Russia. The US did not organize any wars in the region and certainly not the current situation in the Ukraine despite the Kremlin and Putin's cult of personality continuously regurgitating the PROVEN lie that the US helped to fund the protesters. In fact the contrary is true, it was Russia that started all of this first with economic warfare in order to prevent the Ukraine's right to self determination which prompted peaceful protests supported by the majority of Ukrainians which resulted in a Russian puppet at the direct behest of Putin, sending in his jack booted thugs to attack and murder the protesters which resulted in his impeachment followed by his treasonous self imposed exile to Russian occupied territory, then what happened next is Russia invaded, occupied, installed an occupation government with Spec Ops holding AKs and rocket launchers in the Crimean parliamentary building during the swearing in of a new Crimean "prime minister" and this was followed by the outright illegal annexation of sovereign Ukrainian territory by the Russian Federation through a fraudulent and illegal referendum in which only two options were offered cessation or annexation rather than maintaining the status quo and which did not allow for the majority of Ukrainians to participate in direct violation of both the Ukrainian and Crimean Constitutions.[/QUOTE]

    Your comment is ignoring the fact that Ukraine as a nation is not sustainable. Provinces of Ukraine are pulling in different directions and majority gravitates to Russia, not to EU or USA. Nationalists, who may respect those papers already violated all documents by seizing the power by force. Ignore CNN and alike propaganda. Here is a nice pice of satire on this matter, but it is in German: http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1876877&cid=520
     
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    Your "facts" is fake, photoshop, audio video installation and outright falsification. Show me at least one 100% fact.
     

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