Qasem Soleimani killed: Does Trump have a strategy?

I don't think Trump considered the consequences of either action or non action. Like most of Trump, this was a knee jerk reaction. I don't have a problem of getting out of Iraq. Especially since ISIS invaded Iraq to set up their own ISIS state within Iraq and Syria, Iraq has been moving closer and closer toward Iran. Iran put boots on the ground and help fight ISIS while we were fiddle farting around with bombs. Trying not to weaken ISIS too much in the fear if we outright destroyed them, that would strengthen Assad in Syria. At the time we wanted to oust both. But one had to prevail, we just couldn't decide which one.

The middle east has always been in turmoil. We forget that after WWI with the fall of the Ottoman Empire it was the west that drew the boundary lines for the different countries of the middle east. The west did so without regard to religion, tribal affiliation, ethnicity or anything else. The west concern when they drew up these state's boundaries was to make it easier for France and England to be the middle east's overseers. Which newly drawn counties would fall under each's preview or authority. All the turmoil and problems in the middle east go back to the west's drawing of boundary lines for each country. Artificial lines with no input from the people of the middle east.

 

I believe the issue with Iraq will be our influence on the region, or it's loss of influence. We did sacrifice quite a bit to say the least. Even though invading Iraq was a poor decision, there was still a chance we could have planted roots there and addressed a slew of ME issues, I hate giving that up so quickly after so much sacrifice. I did not think about your suggestion about defeating ISIS too quickly, that may be so, and may note our support for the indigenous to expel ISIS which I would support always.

 

Again, you misunderstood the point. Not surprised. Glad you had a laugh because so did I at your fumbling.

 

Brilliant
Call it fake news and then prove that it isn't. No wonder you liked the other poster that doesn't understand what is said.

 

As opposed to obama's strategy? He basically just bent over and took it up the wazoo like Chamberlain did leading up the WW2.

 

Obama bombed 7 Muslim countries, issued record number of drone strikes and ousted the leader of Libya.

We don't give criminals back their confiscated assets. So, why would Obama give back money to a country that funds and supplies Jihad around the World????

 

From what I understand is that Iraqi and Iranian troops have ISIS pretty much under control in Iraq. ISIS in Syria, hardly nothing comes out from Syria although ISIS still holds some territory there. But Russia and Assad have slowly been taking that territory back.

The Shia governments of Iraq and Iran have been moving closer and closer to perhaps being allies. This you don't hear about, probably planned that way. Leaving Iraq, especially when we aren't wanted there is in my opinion the right thing to do. The Sunni nations of Jordan, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia will continue to be our allies in the region. Syria never has been.

Although I think the killing of the Iranian General was a dumb move, that is if one wanted to keep the status quo and we, some troops in Iraq. Sooner or later in the near future we would have to pull out of Iraq anyway. Iraq will always be more or less a battleground of shia vs. sunni vs. kurds. Shia is the majority in Iraq. Close ties to Shia Iran means they will continue to in control.

I realize there is no easy answers to the problems in the middle east, probably no answers at all especially from a country outside of the middle east. I think the alliance between shia Iraq and shia Iran was just a matter of time, Trump just sped that up some.

 

He bombed 7 countries....hmmmm. Good thing he was a weak kneed candy ass or we might have had a problem. He ousted the leader of Libya and said he regretted not planing for the aftermath. People really get upset when you oust a Nobel Peace Prize leader like that. In fact, they got so upset they killed him. Obama didn't, rebels did.
What is your point? Obama messed up LIbya (he did) so Trump should be allowed to mess up Iran? If that is your argument, it's a bad one.

 

I don't see how this article is not promoting a point of view, and while I understand certain people's own need to claim that Trump doesn't have a strategy I think killing Soleimani is part of the strategy that Trump has been pursuing since he canceled Obama's deal and reimposed sanctions on Iran.

 

Nobel Peace Prize leader? Like Obama?

Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize only after being in office for 8 months and then goes on to bomb 7 Muslim countries, issue record number of drone strikes and oust the leader of Libya. Go figure.

 

Yeah, you said that but here's the thing that's hard to understand.
Obama bombs (according to you) 7 Muslim countries (apparently you're keeping count...for some reason) and issues a record number of drone strikes and yet is the "Father of ISIS".
Trump and his administration along with other countries finish the job and take credit of the "Destruction of ISIS" but that is false. They also apparently looked the other way while it reformed itself
Obama had a coalition with other countries to help with the situation
Trump alienates all our allies so the situation gets worse.
Obama pulls out troops in accordance with previous set timelines and is deemed "The father of ISIS".
Trump pulls out troops to be deemed a hero to end "endless wars" but in fact has done nothing on that front.
Obama never gave NK the time of day and protected South Korea.
Trump took selfies with Kim and fell in love accomplished nothing.
Obama drew up an accord with allies to keep Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.
Trump said WTF and gave us a plan about as good as his health plan but promised he can do better...........any day now............any day.
Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize on the promise of hope that he brought with his election. Did he deserve it? (Shrug) I don't know, I don't get a vote but what I do know is
Trump ain't never gettin one.

 

More whining by an anti-Trump left-winger.

Get over it!

 

Easy.....the TDS'rs are heavy on the report to whine button.

Hussein Obama did arm ISIS. Hussein Obama is the reason ISIS formed. Hussein Obama had a kill list but lefties didn't say jack squat.

And the only reason Hussein Obama got a Nobel Prize was because HE WAS BLACK and kissed Europe's ass.

 

I didn't whine. You're the one that's whining with your post. What I did was compare your misguided complaints about Obama with the true ineptitude of Trump. I'll take the win and move on.

 

Just when you thought the Obama/Kerry deal couldn’t be any worse......

You won’t find this on CNN or MSNBC.

The Obama/Kerry Iran deal gave Soleimani amnesty. He gave a guy responsible for killing 600+ Americans Amnesty.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.re...soleimani-the-iran-deal-gave-him-amnesty/amp/

I wonder how the 600+ American families who lost love ones to Soleimani feel about this?

 

Yes. To kick ass and chew gum.