Question about speed

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  1. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That depends on the school that hires me of course.

    I may be required to teach all the subjects and have a class of designated children all day or I may just focus on science.

    I don't know yet.

    Honestly I don't know how that all works....I'M STILL IN COLLEGE LEARNING ABOUT THIS!

    God dude, give me a break already.

    Maybe I should just go kill myself since I am so ****ing horrible.
     
  2. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Just chill. If you can't take the little bit of heat I'm providing, those doctors and lawyer parents are going to eat you up alive. I remember having a parent/teacher conference with a lawyer dad. Two days later I got an official sounding lawyer letter, written on the lawyer dad's law firms stationary, stating exactly what we agreed to/didn't agree to. Showed it to my principal and she laughed and said to ignore it. Thankfully, this girl wasn't a problem.

    My problem with your stuff, is that I (unlike those whiny parents you think you will have) know your job. The details don't match what I know. In general, you have three kinds of teaching certificates for permanent teachers--elementary (all grades, K-6), middle (usually 5-9), or secondary (7-12). People who are science teachers generally have one (or both) of the second two. It's rare that a elementary teacher teaches only 4th grade science. Occasionally, you will get an elementary teacher that teaches only science, but that's usually either a 5th grade science teacher, or one who teaches science to several grade levels. It just seems that you don't know your future profession very well. How long have you been in education classes?

    Yes, I'm a pain, but I have good reasons. First, I love science. Second, I love education. Third, I love this country. I want the people teaching science to know science, not just think they can learn it from teaching guides (which are usually pretty shitty). If you can't take my questioning, you need to get a thicker skin before you enter the classroom.
     
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    Or perhaps you should listen to and accept the help being offered and become a more qualified and educated teacher. From what you have presented here as far as innate skills required for teaching even 4th graders you MIGHT qualify for religious or special education positions, but entering into any public education field let alone private school curriculum will be at minimum....challenging. For myself I certainly would not accept someone trying to teach my children incorrect information as I want them to be successful and do not want to correct their teacher during dinner.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its been broken down into 4 age ranges now, not three any longer.

    When I stated 4th grade that wasn't a specific but an idea of the general age I want to teach.

    I started my education classes on August 7th of this year so yes, there is much I do not know, kind of the point of going to college.

    Don't judge me too harshly.

    If it turns out I'm not qualified then I simply won't be hired.

    But I think I can be an excellent teacher so I am still going to pursue it and I will address whatever failings I find in myself and overcome them to ensure that I do give the children the best education possible.

    That is on me.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And why do you assume I would teach them incorrect information?

    You know that I will plan out the lessons and research every detail of that lesson do you not?

    And if I don't know the answer I have an iPhone with google on it.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My assumption comes from your input into this forum as that is all the data I have access to in this situation. This data has indicated that your grasp of fundamental science is lacking and when verified data is provided in links or commentary you do not use the tools you claim access to as a means of arguing or debating positions. It may indeed be that you will not teach the way you play here but, that is what we are discussing.
     
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    Your record here is seriously bad.

    And, you clearly aren't using google.

    What should make me thing that is going to change in some dramatic way?
     
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    So far, you've indicated that you are looking for a degree in education.

    But, will your college courses include courses that are focused on understanding science?
     
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    So which certification are you working on?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm starting my elementary certification.

    My masters program does it all for me basically.

    I believe next semester I start my student teaching but I'm not sure on that, I haven't really looked yet.
     
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    Cool. I wouldn't worry too much about the speed questions, if I were you. I think dinosaurs are a better thing to worry about. (that, and everyday science)
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well I'm hoping that they teach me what it is I'm supposed to be doing because right now I'm lost.

    I just started in early August so I have two years of study although I can start working before I finish, not sure if I want to do that though.
     
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    Well, make sure you pay attention in the teaching math section. Math is the key to science.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will.

    I coasted through my BS but now its time to get serious.

    This is like real world stuff now but I have to tell you that those old habits are hard to break.

    It will be refreshing to actually get in a real classroom.
     
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    It is. That said, being in a real classroom will tell you if you want to be a teacher or not.
     
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    Good point.

    It's unfortunate that so many of our careers essentially require early commitment with essentially no knowledge of what that career is really like.

    I have a friend who went through college, medical school and an internship before he realized that he really didn't like any contact with patients!! He said it would have been far more interesting to him to work in a lab somewhere, coming up with new solutions to medical problems.

    But, he decided it was too late to switch. So, there is a doctor out there who hates patients.

    I hope you don't meet my friend!!

    And, I'm glad my kids didn't meet teachers who don't like working with kids!
     
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    Kinda late for that now, I'm too old to do anything else at this point.
     
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    If you're under 30, you can still do something different. I changed from being a teacher to my current job (instructional technology) when I was 35.
     
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    I think you're missing air resistance. From 20 miles above Earth, the air is practically like space, so there's no resistance to his fall speed building up over time. But when he enters the air and it builds up thicker toward the ground, the resistance builds up too, slowing the skydiver down.
     
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