Question ..WHY????

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  1. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Zero evidence backing up any of the theories. You would think after 11 years they would have SOMETHING, but they don't. They have a bunch of opinions and lies, but zero actual evidence. If they did have evidence it would be a different story. They would probably even get a new investigation. But they don't have squat. How do you explain that?
     
  2. BullsLawDan

    BullsLawDan New Member

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    In the last 5 years, at least, they've made negative progress. They've gone from conventions and books and a real "movement" to a few idiots posting on internet message boards. The public perception - the term "9/11 truther" - is synonymous with that of a drooling idiot.

    You want hard data? Run Google Analytics on "9/11 conspiracy". Every year the searches on that topic trend downward, with a small spike around the anniversary. See for yourself:
    http://www.google.com/trends/?q=9/11+conspiracy
     
  3. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Truthers and Birthers balance each other out in some cosmic sort of way.
     
  4. DDave

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    And that's what I don't get, Jango. I admire you for what you did over at Let's Roll. Even you saw through their ridiculous "analysis" and "research" and called them on it. You got banned like everyone else that dares question the Gospel according to Phil but at least you tried. I respect you for your willingness to speak out when someone espouses a theory that is in reality just too crazy to make any sense at all. Unlike the other members there who will swallow ANYTHING Phil and his crazy band of "researchers" say, or worse yet, not believe in the horse(*)(*)(*)(*) they spread but suck up anyway just to be one of the "group".

    You still need to establish a link and some relevancy. Same with PNAC. Same with Operation Northwoods. And on and on. It seems that you want so desperately to believe that your government was behind the 9/11 attacks that you grasp at anything that will "show" what the government is capable of without actually having any evidence that shows they were involved. Other than bad intentions or actions in the past.

    You will forgo looking at the evidence or lack thereof objectively. Unless it gets to be TOO ridiculous as in the case of Let's Roll.
     
  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Only a fool would demand proof when the source can completely destroy all the evidence under the veil of national security and drown out all voices in the media but their own.
     
  6. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Yet another really lame excuse from the truther camp. "We have no evidence because it is all repressed!" BULL(*)(*)(*)(*)! :lol: Drown out all voices? Then why are you and the rest of your truther buddies here? Shouldn't you be drowned out according to your own excuses? You're going to have to do better than this crap if you actually expect anyone to buy your bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  7. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    sorry I am not party to the oligarchy, nor one of their groupies.

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  8. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    There is a political IQ out there to test how smart people are when it comes to government.

    They ask really simple questions like:

    If you were in the same room and witnessed the president blow someones brains out in cold blooded murder what would you do and why?

    very simple question.
     
  9. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    All you have left is petty insults. What's wrong? Nobody buying your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that no planes hit the buildings anymore? Got tired of trying to come up with excuses as how thousands of people saw the second plane hit the building live yet somehow DIDN'T see it? All done being mocked for your claims of the government editing all known footage of the crash? :lol: Yeah, you have a lot of room to insult others.
     
  10. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    you drew first blood pal


    in so far as the planes go you only insult yourself LMAO

    Here is a 1999 helicopter crashing into a high rise

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    this in 2001

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    thus is the gospel of the lord
     
  11. DDave

    DDave Well-Known Member

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    Only a fool would offer that up as an excuse for why they have no evidence to back up their ridiculous claims.
     
  12. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    havent you figured it out yet? the offical conspiracy theory apologists NEVER watch videos that shreads to pieces the governments version of events.Not ONE of them has ever attempted to even try and justify the moronic explantions given in this video,they all ran away from the challenge and always do.on all message boards they do that,run away without trying to debunk that information.:grin: never fails.lol.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/244858-9-11-explained-5-minutes.html


    If you're not going to watch it, then why comment on it, and ridicule and insult me, and the people in it? Grow up.

    again your arguing with paid shills whos handlers have instructed them not to watch the videos since thye know they cant refute it.thats all they are here for is to isnsult and try and derail 9/11 truth discussion threads.best to put these long time shills on ignore like I have.
     
  13. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    Uh could be because congress is corrupt,bought off and paid for and both parties are corrupt and politicians ESPECIALLY presidents, get away with crimes the american people cant. Lets see theres Dick Nxion and Slick Wille -"I never had sex with that woman" Clinton lying to the supreme court something we would go to jail for,you have Obama not showing up for his trial date he was suppose to for his birth forgery,oh and dont forget Ted kennedy getting off scott free murdering a woman letting her drown in the pond in a drunk driving accident. It looks liek these kind of posts is all your capable of coming up with.:blahblah:

    seeing how Bush took away our civil liberties and freedoms signing the patriot act which Obama has expanded and our corrupt congress is letting these two bastards off scott free,americans have seen the light how our corrupt congress is not looking out for the people ingoring them.that being the case I would say they pretty much have earned their 7% approval rating of the american people which is theior lowest approval in the history of the united states.

    Better question is why are you in denial,afraid of the truth and cant accept it that we have paid shills that have penetrated this site is the MUCH better question.
     
  14. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    yeah they are not afraid of the truth on 9/11 and dont run off from facts and evidence of it like frady cat Bush dupes do and frady cat Obama deniars do.
     
  15. Kokomojojo

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    because its purely politics and the truth is irellevant
     
  16. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    So the town bully takes you bike and his friends hide it for him and you are a fool when you use that as your EXCUSE when you dad wants to know where the hell your new bike is.

    Oh yeh that makes perfect sense to someone I suppose.

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  17. DDave

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    I think your cheese has slipped off of your cracker.

    Government corruption is uncovered quite frequently.
     
  18. Jango

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    "That was made by truthers. Just because you saw it on TV doesn't mean it wasn't by truthers."
    The tenth anniversary special was made by truthers? Huh?

    "Just look around."
    Well, I've looked into the origins of the actual truth movement itself. It was based off the Terror Timeline. It was used by the Jersey Girls, which influenced the 9/11 Commission. I'll have to read that book, because if it's anything like the site, it will surely be worth the while in knowledge gained.

    "Yet you can't back up "what you know". Doesn't that bother you?"
    If you'd like me to start sourcing things, just ask.

    "Doesn't it bother you that you are spreading lies and are expecting people to act accordingly?"
    I try to never purposely lie, and I think you know that by now...with me at least. I should think that I come across as sincere. I apologize when I do something wrong, especially when I really know it; I admit when I am wrong, and I try to learn from my mistakes. I am never purposely insultive, either, but I am human, and, do make mistakes. The point is, I categorically reject the notion that I am spreading lies, and especially the notion that I expect others to do the same. I may, from time-to-time, be 'misinformed' about "something", but I never, with purposeful intent tell you something in an attempt to mislead you. I hate that you have this awful image of me. I don't think you're an awful human being because you look at things differently than I do, and I would hope that you would have the same courtesy in reply because I'm not an evil man, Patriot.

    "Don't you think you should find out what the truth is before regurgitating lies? Seriously. Don Quixote had a better case for tilting at windmills than a truther does with their theories."
    I haven't heard anyone talk about, or reference "A Clean Break" to 9/11 before. But as you can tell in the '11 years ago' thread, Hannibal either agrees or can't counter my argument anymore. You insult though, and without refuting my argument. The 9/11 Commission never mentioned "A Clean Break," which was enacted after 9/11, obviously - see Lebanon, see Syria.
     
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    Now you're switching goalposts, and are wrong to boot.
     
  21. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    and all he is REALLY doing of course is bragging how well the evidence has been removed from the public purview and suppressed. Notice how it is slowly leaking out to prevent outrage and riots over 30 years, like the kennedy assassination etc. That way it takes several years to sort through all the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and only a few people are pissed off at time rather than the whole nation at one time.
     
  22. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    The one that made the news here in Denver was. Why don't you tell us about this TV show that discussed Building 7. No real tribute to 9/11 is going to discuss the conspiracies around WTC 7.

    As usual, you have your facts mixed up. The smoke had hardly cleared from ground zero before truthtards started coming out of the woodwork.

    Here is more bad news for you. Terror timeline says 19 hijackers flew planes into the buildings and the government didn't know about it. Read about it here. Truthers like to make assumptions based off of opinions of the information in the book, but that isn't the same thing, is it. It is taking the work and significantly altering it.

    I have asked you NUMEROUS times to source your work. Usually you run away. Once in a while you produce a source and then find out the source is completely wrong, yet you continue to use the source.

    I think the above paragraph is very self serving and very misleading. You have repeated information you have been shown is a lie. You could not refute the debunking of the lie. Repeating a known lie is lying.

    I have never called you evil. I truly believe what you are doing is evil. Not the same thing.

    :lol: You make a speculative remark about "A Clean Break" and pretend it is evidence. You have zero evidence other than the coincidence of us entering multiple theaters of war. You cherry pick quotes out of a document and pretend it has hidden meaning even though you have to fudge some of the claims because reality isn't like what the PNAC talks about. Hannibal at no point agreed with you, and he took your argument apart. You just ignored what he said and pretended your interpretation of the PNAC is real.

    But let's take a closer look at your assumption. Does 9/11 HAVE to be carried out by the government in order to move forward with what the PNAC is talking about? Couldn't the believers of the PNAC document use 9/11 as an impetus to carry out their plans without 9/11 being their doing? The logic behind your conclusions is fatally flawed.
     
  23. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Then why can't you provide a single real piece of evidence? I have been asking this for months and not one person has presented real evidence. Opinion is not evidence. You want to see where you lie? Right here. I have been very consistant and not one piece of evidence has been presented, yet here you are lying about it. You have presented what you considered to be evidence, but it was not evidence and I showed you very clearly WHY it was not evidence and WHY it was wrong to boot.
     
  24. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    what do you expect when its so clearly a trougher operation.

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    Of course you believe that birds magically turn into a plane that really does fly through steel buildings LOL
     
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    your whole position shows that you have no knowledge of the "art of war". If the agencies of this country operated as elementary as how you are trying to package it they would be playing with rattles and blocks...
     

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