Race and the Modern GOP

How many has the Senate held up?

Senate sitting on 290 bills already passed by House; tension ...
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House Democratic leaders have compiled a list showing that they have passed 290 bills that have stalled in the Senate. they have passed 290 bills that ... can pass ...

 

All Democratic bills SHOULD be stalled since they're pretty much meant to be unconstitutional and seek to restrict our liberty in some way.

 

If you read the story in OP the author does just that morphing the 68 election from a 3 way of Wallace, Humphrey and Nixon, to Humphrey vs. "Conservatives", to Republicans winning a majority of the souths electoral votes for the first time ever. All in the flow of s single paragraph. She erased Wallace from history and made him a generic republican.

A stupid person would easily fall for such a rhetorical trick. Apparently a lot of stupid people did.

 

B-But that's different because . . . because . . . well you just hate Obama because he's a golfer; and so there!

Ouch! Getting into the typical Obama supporter's mindset even in jest is a trifle painful on the ol' logic circuits.

 

Like a good number of people with copious amounts of gray in their hair I lived through that era and while there can be good reasons for liking or disliking certain of those famous politicians one should do so based on historical facts not on ideologically-based fables (Left or Right). One has to go with (to a certain extent anyway) with gut feelings and half-truths and even rumors from time to time with any current administration simply because a great deal of the truth in the form of facts are being withheld from the public -- sometimes for good reasons and sometimes for self-serving political reasons. But mostly one can discover the pertinent facts about historical figures . . . even if one's history courses were lacking in ideological balance.

Anyway it's always possible for an arrogant youngster posting about such things to begin -- gasp! -- questioning what his or her circle of ideologically like-minded peers assumed to be the truth simply due to endless exposure to other posters calmly presenting the genuine historical facts. Of course the mental process of maturing could take decades.

 

Oh, I'm sorry, that link would be the entire (*)(*)(*)(*)ing internet regarding your silly comment about Nixon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon

 

You do have to wonder what they were taught. This is fun watching these race baiting chumps getting this subject thrown in their faces. It really takes the wind out of the sails of lies they have been fed for years.

 

Actually I sort of feel for the sincere ones who honestly believe that the leftwing slant they were (well obviously) taught in high school and college by these hard Left teachers and professors represent what actually happened or even adhere in general to known facts. But then, of course, separating the sincere but honestly confused ones from the happily indoctrinated leftwing ideologues is the tricky part. Mostly I just don't bother to try with them anymore.

 

Yes, it so much reminds me of islamo-facist indoctination. I find the vast majority of them are happily indoctrinated

 

Indeed that does appear to be the case.

 

You guys seem to have a real difficult time understanding the distinction between Democrat/Republican and liberal/conservative. Obfuscate all you want and can, but the fact remains that 'conservatives', as in the modern American sense, were generally against Civil Rights and 'liberals' were for. The OP makes that abundantly clear. arty labels have switched in the main perhaps but it doesn't change the historical fact of which side the 'conservatives' of whatever party were on. Just as they are on the losing end of the gay rights fight.Pretty easy to grasp - just read the OP.

 

For the millionth time, the two parties switched.

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It is easy to grasp, but they ignore and dodge those facts to continue to spread propaganda. The only reason the right wing still exists is because how much money and time they spend on blatant propaganda

 

For the millionth time, no they did NOT!

 

So when the South was Democrat, you are saying the South was liberal? and the North was conservative? What a load of (*)(*)(*)(*)

 

Conservative Democrats and conservative Republicans opposed Civil Rights. Back then there were moderate and liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats. The parties have sorted out into more or less extreme conservative (GOP) and moderate and liberals (Democrats). It is abundantly documented. Applying a contemporary party definition to then is silly. But 'conservative'/'liberal' remains applicable. And obvious to anyone who can fog a mirror．

 

Why the hell do you think the south swung so far democrat during Roosevelt? The old southern democrats were huge on welfare and social program aside from the obvious racial issues perceived competition for the public works jobs of the mew deal also fueled the racial divide..

 

The southern democrats were not conservative at all. They were huge on new deal social programs. They were the in only region in the country to not backlash against the failure of the new deal ib 38. Despite a massive bloodletting in the rest of the country the republicans did not gain a single seat in the south.

Your historical ignorance in this issue is astounding.

 

Right. The Dixiecrats would be liberal by today's standards and a natural fit into the contemporay Democratic party. You true patriots won't be able to fix this whole electoral problem with nutty reasoning like that. And admitting there is a probllem is the first step. Revisionist views like that, while relatively harmless, indicates that you aren't willing to face up to the harsher realities of the present day GOP situation in regards to the changing demography. The GOP quite openly and cynically used the 'southern strategy' for years to scare the white folks. And it worked quite well. Until it didn't 6 years ago. But now that is coming back to bite them in the blowback ass due to the country demographically changing, they are whining, crying and complaining about how unfair it all is and how mean and nasty the Democrats and liberals are and how tragically misunderstood the GOP is. And it wasn't just those horrible black people. That People Who Ain't Like Me attitude has bled into the dealings with Hispanics, immigrants and gays. Waaaaaa! Cowboy up and quit your whingeing. Nat the Those People

 

The violently murderous and startlingly recent racist history of the Democratic Party in the US can't be mitigated in any material way by trying to tag the bad guys as "conservatives in Democrat clothing." Find a new fallacy, that one has been thoroughly deconstructed on this forum in thread after thread by myself and others. Maybe it will work on the echo chamber, not on intelligent, educated people.

 

How's that outreach to minorities going for the GOP? Kind of a struggle, you say? Really? Can't possible imagine why. Guess you'd better call them all stupid, criminal parasites a little louder and more often.

You should check out post #65 for some posts by liberal Democrats trying to pretend they are conservatives.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/politi...oon/index.html
I agree that he likely did NOT think, "I know, I'll destroy my career!" But what he did was incredibly stupid. He should have known this is the sort of thing the left would pounce upon. And now, those of us on the right have egg on our face, again. As the ideology of less government, we are specifically trying to erode privilege, racism, tribalism, and other special groupings. Yet, unlike the Democratic party and its history of racism and continuing that racism (and just switching clients) we have to deal with this kind of thing. Again. Damn it.

 

Yes, this sort of thing is never pleasant. But it is reality. This stuff is the same as religion to the Left and so one gears up to deal with it; with the over the top reactions and band wagon hysteria, and so forth. A huge irony in this particular instance is that there's a fifty-fifty chance that this particular cartoonist is a nominal Democrat.

 

Taxcutter says:
As an old military officer I suspect Ike carried out all sorts of orders he didn't much like.

Taxcutter says:
...at RFK's order. With JFK's (and later LBJ's) approval.

 

No matter how many times you repeat these lies it wont be true. I gave you solid facts on election patterns and the Souths broad support of new deal politics. You spouted lies.

 

Mr.Win, please calm down. Thank you. Now please sit down. I've got some bad news for you. That tea party time machine you bought the ticket for at the county fair? I'm so sorry but it didn't work. The New Deal was in the 1930's. Eighty years ago. This is the 21st century. And - still sitting down? - good, we have a Negro for President! Cubs still haven't won the World Series though.