There are a lot of misconceptions when it comes to Blacks, crime and law enforcement. This article is very good in explaining the issue: Race Relations and Law Enforcement
I could only read so much before I couldn't take any more. I don't know where to begin with this article. He lost me when he said, "If liberals want to help reverse these crime trends, they would do better to focus less on supposed racial animus and more on ghetto attitudes towards school, work, marriage, and child-rearing." The reason why his niece asked why he spoke "white" is because he has an elitist white superiority - black inferiority complex. Many black people don't care if you sound smart, but they do detect that elite mentality. Heck people don't accuse me of being "white" for sounding smart, but I have been asked if I'm a panther. These same "ghetto" people helped me make it. This man is asking for liberals to reverse crime trends when this is something we need to focus on ourselves. We don't need any "help" from liberals, we just need to stop being their social experiments. If he really wants their help, he should request that they leave us alone. I have a feeling we'd heal faster that way. That's just my own opinion.
Hmmmmm, here's my take on it.... This whole society is warped. Affirmative Action & welfare does help, but they are band-aids to much larger and more complex issues. If our demo would start and sustain our own institutions, we wouldn't need to rely on AA. Instead of hoping for the few black people at a time to make it in this system, we could hire systems full of black people. As far as welfare goes, our people should not have barriers to food, shelter, and other basic survival necessities. We would need to structure our own societies in a more self-sustaining & productive manner. We must not emulate this economic and social system, because it is a failed system. All in all, we need to begin our own social experiments for us, by us.
A lot of the problems that Blacks face comes from the attitude that they are owed something. They are not. Another problem is the broken Black family...no fathers. The same problems can be seen in other races without fathers. The ghetto culture does not help either. I think the Ferguson PD should be replaced with an entirely Black force. I bet things wouldn't change.
The police is at war with urban terrorist. Obama is at war with isis. Drone strikes innocent whole wedding parties. Yet no progressive outrage. Obama kills an innocent american child all because of who his father was. Yet no progressive outrage. Obama kills first responders with drones yet no outrage. I guess innocent brown lives don't matter to progressives. The only thing that matter is pushing a false narrative about hands up. Destroying an innocent policeman's life with lies. Even in congress floor the same lie was pushed. Not a one comes out and tells the truth about this urban terrorist Brown. Yet promotes him as an innocent child. Like he was seven. Yet not one liberal congressman talks about the american child obama drone strikes as a wrongfully brown life taken. I guess brown lives don't matter as much as pushing progressive lies.
This is part of what I meant by for us, by us. Too many people believe they know what the black race's problems are and they don't know the first thing. Once they believe they have it figured out, next thing you know, they want to propose a "solution" to what they believe is the problem. I do agree that things won't change, but I believe it for different reasons. Those guys need to own their own resources, incentives, commerce, media, education system, policing, etc to be successful.
Race relations in America are deteriorating. Nothing done by law enforcement one way or the other will have any impact on the spiral of deterioration. Things will just continue to get worse as alienation and estrangement grow.
Confused. When I click on the link it takes me to "Practical Thoughts on Immigration" and nothing addressing blacks and law enforcement. It has the identical URL address as in your link. . http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/?_ga=1.132505358.1616285163.1426088514
It is sadly true that race relations have been deteriorating in America in recent years as anti-minority racial prejudice has increased since President Obama was elected in 2008 according to numerous studies. As numerous studies indicate the election of a black moderately liberal president did generate more right-wing social conservative racism but hopefully that will subside somewhat when President Obama leaves office at the end of his term. Of course law enforcement cannot address the overall problem of racism and racial prejudice in society and it can't even do much to stop the racism and racial prejudice our criminal justice system (i.e. the courts) but it can do a lot to end the racism and racial prejudice in law enforcement and that's important. There is a huge problem with "trust" in black communities because the police have the same stereotype of blacks as many Americans hold believing that a "black teenager = drug user/dealer/criminal" and blacks are routinely stopped and frisked for no other reason than this stereotype. As a young white surfer growing up in the San Fernando Valley during the mid-60's I was also subjected to a stereotype by law enforcement because surfers often grew their hair long and because of the hippie movement there was a stereotype that "long hair = druggie" and we were routinely rousted by police based upon that stereotype. Simply being a long haired white teenager was "grounds" for the police to stop and frisk us and it happened all of the time. We didn't trust the police either!!! Fortunately for us when word of these stop and frisks reached our parents the reponded to the politicans and police departments and, because our parents were middle-class whites and some were ever attorneys, the practice of stop and frisk of white kids just because they had long hair was ended within about a year or so. Unfortunately for blacks in poor communities they're parents aren't white, they're not middle class, they're not attorneys, and the politicans and police have not ended employing the stereotype of "black teenager = drug user/dealer/criminal" that is widespread in our culture when it comes to "stop and frisks" of young blacks and that creates distrust in the black communities for law enforcement. When the black community doesn't trust law enforcement then, by default, the gangs become the law enforcement for the community. The black community doesn't want the gangs in control but they don't trust the police so they don't go to the police to combat the gangs. The black gangs then perpetuate the stereotype that "black teenager = drug user/dealer/criminal" which is the problem. But there have been small breakthroughs in restoring trust in the black communities for law enforcement. There was a great Real Sports story on the LAPD and the Watts Bears, a Pop Warner football team in the the black community. I can only provide a short vidio clip from that episode but it's worth watching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abHYjFe3fmM Even more important, not covered by the video, is that these LAPD officers are in the community literally pounding a foot beat and they are not stopping black teenages and frisking them even if they see a minor street drug deal going down. They obviously enforce more serious violations of the law but restoring the trust of the black community supersedes the enforcement of very minor drug offenses and there are no "stop and frisks" based even when probable cause, not just BS "reasonable suspicion" based upon racial stereotypes, is involved. Restoring trust between the black community and law enforcement is far more important than enforcing petty offense drug laws. It is my opinion that the "stop and frisks" based upon ""reasonable suspicion" created by the stereotype of "black teenage = drug user/dealer/criminal" is the primary cause behind the distrust of law enforcement and the black community because I also suffered these "stop and frisks" based upon the similar stereotype of "long hair = druggie" in the 1960's. I would personally propose we elevate the criteria for the "stop and frisks" by law enforcement. First replace the easily rationalized ""reasonable suspicion" with the higher standard of "probable cause" related to the stop. Next I would limit the frisk to only a pat down for weapons as opposed to a search for contraband (e.g. drugs) on the person. If the police have probable cause to believe the person has drugs or other illegal contraband on their person then they can get a search warrant before searching the person. Obviously the pat down for weapons is justifiable for the protection of the law enforcement officer and knives and guns can be easily felt during a pat down search. Yes, it does mean that there will be those in possession of drugs or other contraband that won't be arrested but that is acceptable to me because the police didn't have "probable cause" or more accurately any logical reason to believe the person had these illegal items to begin with. This change would stop the "witch hunts" by law enforcement and instead them to employ Constitutionally supported criteria in enforcing the law. They would have to "assume" the young black teenager was innocent as opposed to assuming they're guilty based upon a racial stereotype.
The fundamental reason race relations will continue to deteriorate is that the economic pie isn't growing fast enough. The American public school system is the primary reason African Americans aren't acquiring the skills necessary to succeed. Law enforcement has little to do with public schools.
Are you suggesting bringing back segregation? - - - Updated - - - They change it every month. Try this: http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/race-relations-and-law-enforcement/
Can a moderator please change the link in the OP to this: http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/race-relations-and-law-enforcement/ The original link is now linked to a different editorial.
Thank you for the link as it was an interesting read but it is highly innaccurate in many respects generally citing white conservative talking points that are more about addressing "liberal" views or policies than addressing the actual problem. Before proceeding we must understand that blacks are right up there on the anti-black prejudice scale along with Republican and Democrats. The 2012 study on racial prejudice, one of an on-going number of studies, established that 79% of Republicans and 32% of Democrats expressed explicit anti-black racial prejudice in answering questions. Not commonly noted is that about 40% of black respondents also expressed explicit anti-black racial prejudice in that study. It should also be noted that I don't address the issue from a Democrat or Republican perspective but as a "progressive libertarian" I do hold "classic liberal" beliefs which were the foundation for our government. Of course this is roughly 200 years since the early days of classic liberalism (not neo-classic liberalism that replaced it) and we should expect significant advancement in "classic liberalism" which I do embrace in my political ideology. American was founded upon progressive liberalism but not as it's understood by Democrats today. But let me provide some examples of the incorrect or misrepresentative statements by Jason L. Riley in his opinion piece. First of all he provides anecdotal evidence related to "talking white" which is a subset of "acting white" as an argument for why blacks do so poorly in school. The problem is that studies have proven this belief to be a myth. http://www.vox.com/2015/3/4/8138739/acting-white-myth-debunked Riley goes on to mention Ferguson as a transition to addressing black crime in general instead of focusing on the problem that Ferguson really represents. Law enforcement officers routinely shoot and kill unarmed blacks but virtually never shoot and kill unarmed whites. We know the actual reason for this although no one wants to discuss it. Based upon racial stereotyping blacks are presumed to be "dangerous criminals" while whites are not. A law enforcement officer is far more likely to preceive a threat from an unarmed black person justifying the use of deadly force than they are when they encounter an unarmed white person. It is a presumption of a threat based upon a racial stereotype that results in virtually all unarmed individuals being killed by police being black while few are ever white. Riley doesn't address this point at all and instead goes off on black crime rates and, in citing the numbers, even here he's wrong. In addressing the black crime rate Riley provides a statistical talking point offered by Stormfront, and openly racist organization, but we cannot condemn Riley as a racist merely by association with a Stormfront talking point but we should note that it's the same "statistical" point being made by both. From Riley's narrative: What Riley omits is the fact that of the violent black offenders in prison today the vast majority of them were first incarcerated because of the drug laws where we know that racial discrimination by law enforcement is the primary cause for the high black incarceration rates. If it wasn't for the racial prejudice in the enforcement of the drug laws then over 90% of blacks that end up committing violent crimes would not become criminals in the first place. We need to start with the fact that turning a person into a criminal based upon racial prejudice by law enforcement and our criminal justice system propagates later, more serious, criminal offenses by the person. There are numerous studies that support the fact that our prison system actually increases the criminal behavior of those incarcerated especially if the person is incarcered when they're young. The simple drug user is indoctrinated by the criminals they serve time with. Riley omits this part of critical thinking from his narrative. Riley also refers to the black murder rate by blacks in his narrative where he states another statistic. Yes, that is a statistical fact but he ignores the fact that virtually all killings of unarmed individuals by law enforcement will be the killing of a black person and virtually never the killing of a white person (which is what he ignored in referring to Ferguson). Riley also igonores other signficant statistics in his narrative such as per captia a black person is 22-times more likely to be the victim of a racially motivated hate crime in America than a white person. Isn't that important to Riley? Riley goes on to embrace the conservative talking point of "Blame the victim" of invidious discrimination and prejudice with the following statement. Sorry Mr. Riley but anti-black racial prejudice and discrimination in America are far more important than all of the statistics you cite and it is the anti-black racial prejudice and discrimination since the Civil Rights era that is fundamentally responsible for the statistics. We promised blacks equality and they believed that promise but we've offered them everything but equality since then. In a very real sense it's better if a person has a dream than it is to have that dream shattered by reality. The dreamer is the optimist while those that have had their dreams shattered by reality become the cynics. We promised equality and then denied it to them. Riley goes on to address freedom and equality but his conclusions are wrong. Like most social conservatives Mr. Riley is incorrect because "equal outcome" is not the goal, it's the result. We can measure the equality by the outcome. When we address equality of economic opportunity we can measure the success by the equality of the outcome. For example a recent study revealed the fact that the average white household has assets worth about $144,000 while the assets of a black household are only about $11,000. That is an "outcome" measurement that merely reflects the difference in "equality of economic opportunity" between white households and black households. All things being "equal" this disparity would not exist. The same is true for women that only earn 90% of what white males earn in identical jobs with identical education and experience and where black males only earn 60% of what white males in identical jobs with identical education and experience. These are "results" that measure the success or failure of "equality of economic opportunity" in America. The results, the economic outcomes, merely measure whether the equality exists but it doesn't tell us what to do about it. The statistics indicate overwhelmingly the equality of economic opportunity for blacks in our society does not exist. Social conservatives, such as Mr. Riley, want to ignore the evidence that equality of economic opportunity does not exist and therefore believe that nothing should be done. Even when it comes to civil rights, such as the Right to Vote, Mr. Riley refers to the Voting Rights Act of 1963, that was supported by liberal Republicans and then ignores current history. In 2012 the US Supreme Court struck down key provisions to the Voting Rights Act that provided federal oversight to election laws in certain states that had a history of Jim Crow voting laws that statistically disenfranched black voters. Irnonically the arguments for striking down these provisions for federal oversight were accurate. The Supreme Court cited the fact that the problem was not limited to these states and it was true. The problem had already spread under Republican adminstration to states not on the list where new era Jim Crow laws were being passed. The voter ID laws, such as adopted by Wisconsin that "wasn't on the list" are the new Jim Crow laws based upon the statistical fact that 25% of African-American citizens don't have valid government ID that will allow them to exercise their franchise and vote. Voter ID laws were rationalized by Republicans in the same manner that the Poll Taxes and Literacy Tests under Jim Crow were rationalized. The Republicans (falsely) claimed that voter impersonation at the polls, the only thing the Voter ID laws address, was a national scandal resulting in extensive election fraud but there has never been an election contested based upon voter impersonation and studies have shown it's far less likely than being struck by lightenig. In Wisconsin there wasn't a single documented case of voter impersonation at the polls in modern history. The only reason for the Voter ID law in Wisconsin was to disenfrancise roughly 300,000 registered African-American voter that statistically didn't have the proper "government issued ID" that would allow them to vote. It had nothing whatsoever to do with election fraud at the polls because Wisconsin had zero evidence of voter impersonation at the polls ever occuring. Jim Crow is alive and well today and it's proponents are the Republican Party.... the same party that refuses to address racism, racial prejudice using the arguments that white nationalist groups, such as Stormfront, are presenting as racist propaganda. In might be rude or politically incorrect to be blunt but in my opinon Mr Riley is an anti-black racist that simply happens to be black because his arguments clearly reflect anti-black racial prejudice. His arguments are based upon White Supremacy propaganda that are disputed by both facts and logical reasoning.
Thanks for the analysis. Although interesting, it is just another opinion peace. The fact does remain that Blacks commit a proportionally higher amount of crime than other groups, and there is a lot of Black on Black crime that is not being addressed. It only gets addressed when a non-Black committs a crime against a Black. A Black thug gets killed (justifiably) by a White officer in Ferguson, and there is a huge uproar, especially from the race baiters we all know about. Two White police officers get shot, and you don't hear anything from the loudmouths, and only a tweet from Obama. If the shooter(s) gets caught, and he/she happens to be Black, I guarantee you there will be outrage that he/she is being prosecuted by the same "protesters" in Ferguson and elsewhere. The fact remains that there are sterotypes that create this racial divide and hatred. Racism is wrong, and any form of it needs to be dealt with. Blacks have to work on improving their image by cutting out the ghetto culture, and stop blaming everyone else for their own problems. The Black family unit, or lack thereof, is a big part of the problem. Racism is here to stay. IMHO, only a homogenous demographic can eliminate it, but that is not going to happen. It doesn't help that we have the likes of Obama, Holder, Sharpton and Jackson that perpetuate the problem.
I wanted to thank you for sharing that video, because I like seeing stuff like that. It helps a child's self esteem to see people, especially those who look like him, show care in the community.
I believe there are two things that plague the BC or should I say "the hood". If you were to remove the illegal guns and drugs the crime rate would drop dramatically. Also people have to have OPPORTUNITY to succeed.
