Liberals do the topic a disservice. They make being labeled, and pegged a racist, REALLY BAD, and if you can just deny that label, all is good, and you can pontificate. THE TRUTH IS, liberals are racist. They also gain from entrenched racism. Sure we fight it, but making it some kind of human defect, and not the truth of being human, makes those prone to racism promotion reluctant to change. We all learn, that some humans are nice, and some are scary. What culture you are exposed to, determines which seem strange, or scary. I have been attacked, en masse, by liberals, for telling these truths, as they fight like hell, the notion that they too are racist. The only difference worth discussing, is that liberals, question and fight the proclivity, by virtue of being human, of creating in groups and outgroups. We define ourselves, not so much by our inclusion in an in group, but by the othering of an out group. This has been proven by sociologists. It shows that peer influence, is much less than antipeer influence. One doenst have to work too hard, to see how Trump defines himself, and his flock, by what they despise, and are not. They even cease to believe in much of anything but what they oppose. What are you for, is heard as, who are you NOT like? This is the root of tribalism. It is genetic, and rooted in ancient man. If it is not fought against, it is the normal. The natural way of the human animal. WE have moved on, from being hunter gatherer, and have not upgraded our thinking. Thus, we still watch sports, and identify with OUR team, and despise the other team, and the other adherents. It is our nature. The difference between liberals, and right wing, is that we know that it is a nature to be spurned. The right wing thinks that outgroup castigating is their strength. To be developed. WE liberals, could gain some ground, by admitting our proclivity is the same as the right wing, as we too are a human animal, with the vestigial Neanderthal ways of our ancestors. WE would use the familiarity offered by the internet, amongst other ways, of introducing the other as same. We would do away with taxation schemes, and other mechanisms, to segregate. WE would spurn things like 23 and me, that seek to offer reasons why you are the way you are, and fighting your DNA as useless. We would level the playing field, till the distinctions, ASSUMED, of races being thus and so, and we being NOT thus and so, cease. The truth is, we are all the same. The only differences race makes, are localized adaptations to environmental conditions of our ancestors. The reason animals, have traits that can durably be applied to a BREED, is due to the influence of human selection. WE DONT SELECT, other than our druthers. In our past, we had mechanisms for human selection. Such as the word ****, refers to FORNICATION UNDER THE consent of the king. WE also have dabbled with genocide, and eugenics, bumps on the head, and many other ignorant ways of human selection. But, by and large, we ALLOW the disabled, slow of thought and any other category, to procreate. This has killed any difference that could exist. MAking us all, MEN and WOMEN. We have right wingers claiming that blacks, for instance, are more prone to crime, or less intelligent, by breed, than us, whoever us is. This is due to environment, not genetics. We need to address environment, and stop attributing our natures to fate, or DNA. Till we do that, breed attributes, have ZERO validity. Hello, My name is David, and I am a racist. I fight it, and do a passible job of it. It still requires that I identify entrenched racism, and endeavor to root it out. It is and will always be, against my nature to do so. I implore JEsus Christ to help me in this, as he has offered his services for this purpose. I will never be perfect in this aim, but It gets easier, as I put effort into it. If everyone gave that effort, our tribal nature would fade more and more. Einstein said, nationalism is infantile, the measles of mankind. That tribalism, is the same root as racism. It is not only unnecessary, but is the root of most of mans problems. The push for nationalism, makes impossible, any upgrade in humanity. Making globalism, or the decrease of nationalism, OF THE DEVIL, does likewise.
What you’re arguing is that we should deny scientific fact, which is preposterous. It’s not debatable that the races are different. It is a scientific, inescapable, indisputable, objective truth.
There’s hundreds of differences from skull and brain size to musculoskeletal structure to immunities and susceptibilities to different diseases to different tolerances to intelligence and personality traits. These are differences in face and teeth https://ir.lib.uwo.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1137&context=totem Differences in skull features http://www.delmarlearning.com/companions/content/0766806251/apps/grafolc_d.asp Differences in brain size https://philipperushton.net/wp-cont...ize-asian-white-rushton-intelligence-1991.pdf
You are talking about PHENOTYPES. As I said, localized adaptations due to environmental conditions of our ancestors. Our DNA is essentially identical.
Small changes in DNA results in massive changes to the product. We have 90% similar genetic code to Abyssinian domestic cats. Whether genetic code is almost similar is irrelevant to the final product. One small change in genetic code could radically alter the product. The question is what are the differences that have emerged?
Do you know this BLACK woman? She is renowned for her obital mathematical computations which greatly assisted NASA's manned space flight program "Different" should never be confused with "inferior"
Agreed. Different does not mean better. It simply means different. But to deny those differences exist is simply delusional.
I did not say 'Different does not mean better". You twisted that. And I do not appreciate the insinuation. I said "DIFFERENT SHOULD NEVER BE CONFUSED WITH INFERIOR" So what is the point of your pointing out those differences?
No! Races are not subspecies of the human species. There is only one “race”—the human race. So why can’t we sort humans into subspecies like we can with other animals? The answer is that the human species doesn’t have much genetic variation. We are too alike to split into groups. A species is a group of living things that can breed with each other. We can divide some (but not all) species into smaller groups called subspecies. These groups can still breed, but they have physical and genetic differences. Differences between groups add up when they live in separate places for a long time. This means that we can sort some animals based on their appearance or their DNA. Why are humans so similar? Humans haven't been around as long as other animals. We haven't had enough time to develop much variation in our DNA. Humans also migrate and reproduce a lot. Different groups of humans are never apart long enough for genetic differences to add up. Human DNA is too similar to split us into subspecies or races. So we can't use biology to sort people into groups like we can with animals. https://askabiologist.asu.edu/questions/human-races Furthermore, not that long ago, we had a thinning of the human herd. I believe only ten thousand individuals survived. Thus, we have VERY LITTLE variation in our DNA, like I said, virtually identical. It is only RACISTS, that find phenotypical differences that they CALL different breeds.
Well to address a problem or concern a person or group of people have, or any anomaly...it’s important to understand the root cause of the issue. For instance. Why do most major sports leagues have a grossly disproportionate number of blacks and whites? Is it because white kids don’t practice as much? Don’t care enough? Of course not. The issue is that, in the aggregate, blacks (or more properly referred to as negroids) are more physically gifted than whites (caucasoids) or Asians (mongoloids). That doesn’t make them superior, just different. In turn, why are most scientists, ceos, and positions of intellect filled with whites? Is it because blacks don’t try hard? Don’t care enough? Of course not. The issue is that in the aggregate Asians and Whites are intellectually gifted moreso than blacks. That doesn’t make them superior, just different. The historical record will tell you why that’s the case.
That’s absurd. So what is the threshold for declaring something a subspecies? Even if said threshold DOES exist, and isn’t simply a subjective line in the sand that they drew, what does that matter when there are identifiable, observable differences that can be seen clearly defined on the macro level?
Differences in brow ridge. Small insignificant differences. ALL behavioural differences, are down to upbringing. Which should comfort you, as you can still blame absent fathers, and such. Still can blame ethnicity for being inferior to yourself.
Again that’s preposterous. Things like brow ridge and skull size and brain size are far closer to being immutable characteristics than behavioral differences. Behavioral differences manifest in relatively short order when compared to physical differences. For example you can breed a group of voracious mice by actively selecting the more aggressive mice and allowing them to breed while removing the submissive ones. That change would occur far more quickly than say... Attempting to breed rats with larger skull size sustainably however is not as easy.
WE dont ACTIVELY SELECT. Havent for eons. And good girls go for bad boys etc. Folks look for what they are not, in a mate etc. And even dog breeds, that are supposed to act like thus and so, are more down to upbringing, than breed, by far.
I know this is not the main point in your post, but I disagree with this concept of racism. Society is racist. And society is what it is in part due to our racist history. And we do benefit from our society. But that doesn't mean that each individual who obtains benefits from society is a racist. The trumpian transactional mentality is the idea that for somebody to win, somebody else has to lose. It is, of course, possible to succeed by stepping on others. But it's also possible to succeed by working with others. And I find that easier than disparaging others and hoping to get lucky that enough people believe you.
Society is only humans. WE perpetuate it, in small and large ways. If SUDDENLY, we lost our white privilege, it would scare us. WE are accustomed to our level of pulling stuff. I have gotten in cops faces. I have gone after cops and judges. Sure I had cops bust down my door at midnite, and throw me in handcuffs for it, BUT I RAILED ON THEM, even in handcuffs. And sent them packing without me. That is benifitting from racism. Had I been black, I would be dead.
Well now see? This is the part I don't get at all. The fact that I'm white grants me an unspoken "right" to not be frisked by the police if I'm caught speeding. A "right" that a black guy does not necessarily enjoy. But why would police ceasing the practice of frisking people just because they are black change anything about me? Of course I'd be scared if police started frisking everybody they stop. This is one example of the transactional mentality I was talking about. How does that make you racist? It would make the cops racist. And, more generally, it makes society racist. Which we know is a fact. But what effect would it have on you if they stopped killing blacks?
So, to boil down your argument to its essence....everyone is racist. Hello. My name is Charles. I am NOT racist. I don't put anyone on a pedestal above me, or below me. I treat everyone the same regardless of any immutable physical characteristic, class, or upbringing. I do treat people differently if they are *******s or if they are kind. I also treat a child differently from an adult. Beyond those two things, everyone gets treated the same by me. I do not rely on Jesus Christ to help me in any way as I am the only one responsible for my actions, just as everyone else is responsible for their own actions. If you truly want to stop racism, sexism, classism, etc etc then stop playing the identity card. That only causes more of those things. And for Gods sakes...stop listening to sociologists. It's a crap "science" that relies on assumptions more than it does of facts. In fact it often does the very same thing that racists do...twist facts to suit a narrative.
Okay let's sort out some horse crap. The racial purity boat left port about forty generations back as near as anyone can tell.not only do some African Americans get sickle cell anemia so to do a smaller percentage Italian Americans. Why because there were slaves of African descent in ancient Rome. We are all fairly polyglot racially by now. My wife's background is Cherokee Irish and German Yet she is the only one of her parents children that looks remotely Native American. We are all, at least in the USA, pretty much mongrels.
