Racist state introduces apatheid by bus.

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  1. klipkap

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1957644.stm - an excellent source -- HBendor recommends the BBC

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  2. Jack Napier

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    Israel tried to sell nukes that dont exist to S Africa. Like I said, little devils that reach out. Did they not both come into being at around the same time as well, the Jewish racist state of 'israel', and 'apartheid' S Africa?

    Of course, Nelson Mandela et all, and the 'end of apartheid', was enough to sate the middle class hand wringers, and professionally outrage, back in leafy Berkshire.

    The reality was rather different, no?

    “I do not deny that I planned sabotage,” said Mandela, who, served 26 years in prison for amongst other things, 193 counts of terrorism committed from 1961 to 1963.

    He is elected to President of South Africa to a fanfare of media sycophancy worldwide, as the ed media praise the historic day that a black man is elected to run South Africa.

    What they fail to mention is that Mandela who incidentally prior to his incarceration wrote the pamphlet, “How To Be A Good Communist,” has simply been put there to ensure there is no disruption to the running of South Africa by the Rothschild Oppenheimer family and in particular their gold and diamond mining interests.

    Indeed the current head of the Oppenheimer family, Harry Oppenheimer, owns 95% of the world’s diamond mines. Isn’t it surprising that the media fail to inform their readers why, if the blacks in South Africa are getting Africa for the Africans, all the gold and diamond mines, ie. the wealth of South Africa, is still controlled by Jews.

    It therefore should come as no surprise that none of the mineral wealth controlled by Rothschild front men, the Oppenheimer family, is returned to the black people and instead, South Africa, far from becoming free, experiences a dramatic decrease in living standards for the black population, and rapidly declines to the status of the world’s most violent and crime-ridden country. AIDS infection soars to at least 25% of the black population and Mandela’s successor, Thabo Mbeki, son of one of the terrorists jailed alongside Mandela, Govan Mbeki, after he succeeds Mandela as President, states that poverty, not HIV is the cause of AIDS.

    This results in confusion to a population who under so-called freedom have seen crime levels and poverty soar, and in their desperation in the realisation the government won’t help them, have resorted to witchdoctors who advise that sex with a virgin will cure them of AIDS. This, in a country which already boasts statistics of one rape every 26 seconds, now sees incidences of sex with babies less than six months old soar.


    http://www.loebtree.com/oppm.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Beers

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thabo_Mbeki
     
  3. Marlowe

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    I believe there's much more unknown abt Israel's dark behind the screens deals with various other unsavoury regimes other racists .
    From archives :


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    South Africa's prime minister John Vorster (second from right) is feted by Israel's prime minister Yitzhak Rabin (right) and Menachem Begin (left) and Moshe Dayan during his 1976 visit to Jerusalem. Photograph: Sa'ar Ya'acov

    "Israelis have always been horrified at the idea of parallels between their country, a democracy risen from the ashes of genocide, and the racist system that ruled the old South Africa. Yet even within Israel itself, accusations persist that the web of controls affecting every aspect of Palestinian life bears a disturbing resemblance to apartheid.
    After four years reporting from Jerusalem and more than a decade from Johannesburg before that, the Guardian's award-winning Middle East correspondent Chris McGreal is exceptionally well placed to assess this explosive comparison. Here we publish the first part of his two-day special report

    The 'apartheid wall'
    There are few places in the world where governments construct a web of nationality and residency laws designed for use by one section of the population against another. Apartheid South Africa was one. So is Israel.

    Comparisons between white rule in South Africa and Israel's system of control over the Arab peoples it governs are increasingly heard. Opponents of the vast steel and concrete barrier under construction through the West Bank and Jerusalem dubbed it the "apartheid wall" because it forces communities apart and grabs land. Critics of Ariel Sharon's plan to carve up the West Bank, apportioning blobs of territory to the Palestinians, draw comparisons with South Africa's "bantustans" - the nominally independent homelands into which millions of black men and women were herded.
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    As far back as 1961, Hendrik Verwoerd, the South African prime minister and architect of the "grand apartheid" vision of the bantustans, saw a parallel. "The Jews took Israel from the Arabs after the Arabs had lived there for a thousand years. Israel, like South Africa, is an apartheid state," he said.
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    Land confiscation "The mayor at the time, Teddy Kollek, was so identified with the city that he was known as Mr Jerusalem. Talking in 1972 about East Jerusalem, Kollek's adviser on Arab affairs, Ya'akov Palmon, told the Guardian: "We take the land first and the law comes after."

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    Unequal education
    In the 2002 budget, Israel's housing ministry spent about £14 per person in Arab communities compared with up to £1,500 per person in Jewish ones. The same year, the health ministry allocated just 1.6m shekels (£200,000) to Arab communities of its 277m-shekel (£35m) budget to develop healthcare facilities.

    Five per cent of civil servants are Arabs, and a high proportion of those are hired to deal with other Arabs. The foreign and finance ministries employ fewer than a dozen Arab Israelis between them, when their combined staff totals more than 1,700 Jews. Until recently, the Bank of Israel and the state electricity company did not hire a single Arab.
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    There was also God. The Dutch Reformed Church, prising justifications for apartheid out of the Old Testament and Afrikaner history, seized on the victory over the Zulus at the battle of Blood River as confirming that the Almighty sided with the white man.

    "Israelis claim that they are the chosen people, the elect of God, and find a biblical justification for their racism and Zionist exclusivity," .

    "This is just like the Afrikaners of apartheid South Africa, who also had the biblical notion that the land was their God-given right. Like the Zionists who claimed that Palestine in the 1940s was 'a land without people for a people without land', so the Afrikaner settlers spread the myth that there were no black people in South Africa when they first settled in the 17th century. They conquered by force of arms and terror and the provocation of a series of bloody colonial wars of conquest."
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    For decades, the Zionist Federation and Jewish Board of Deputies in South Africa honoured men such as Percy Yutar, who prosecuted Nelson Mandela for sabotage and conspiracy against the state in 1963 and sent him to jail for life (in the event, he served 27 years). Yutar went on to become attorney general of the Orange Free State and then of the Transvaal. He was elected president of Johannesburg's largest orthodox synagogue. Some Jewish leaders hailed him as a "credit to the community" and a symbol of the Jews' contribution to South Africa
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    ".Leaving unmentioned Vorster's wartime internment for supporting Germany, Israel's prime minister, Yitzhak Rabin, hailed the South African premier as a force for freedom and made no mention of Vorster's past as he toured the Jerusalem memorial to the six million Jews murdered by the Nazis. At a state banquet, Rabin toasted "the ideals shared by Israel and South Africa: the hopes for justice and peaceful coexistence". Both countries, he said, faced "foreign-inspired instability and recklessness".

    Vorster, whose army was then overrunning Angola, told his hosts that South Africa and Israel were victims of the enemies of western civilisation. A few months later, the South African government's yearbook characterised the two countries as confronting a single problem: "Israel and South Africa have one thing above all else in common: they are both situated in a predominantly hostile world inhabited by dark peoples."

    Vorster's visit laid the ground for a collaboration that transformed the Israel-South Africa axis into a leading weapons developer and a force in the international arms trade. Liel, who headed the Israeli foreign ministry's South Africa desk in the 80s, says that the Israeli security establishment came to believe that the Jewish state may not have survived without the relationship with the Afrikaners.

    "We created the South African arms industry," says Liel. "They assisted us to develop all kinds of technology because they had a lot of money. When we were developing things together we usually gave the know-how and they gave the money. After 1976, there was a love affair between the security establishments of the two countries and their armies.


    Much -much more here , - its long but I hope you+ Klipkap - find it as informative as I did

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/feb/07/southafrica.israel
     
  4. Jack Napier

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    Fine work, Marlowe, good read. :thumbsup:

    Like I said, under the surface, the end of apartheid in S Africa was only even something that appeased the middle class professional 'cause bandwagon jumpers' here in the UK, and beyond. The same sort who today, have hopped on to the Palestinian cause, while believing (against all odds), that Talmudic Jews can be reasoned with.

    Which they cannot,since there is no evidence that they can, and plenty that they just ignrore all and do whatever.

    Apartheid in S Africa may have formally ended, but you do not really have freedom if the wealth and resources of your land in still controlled by Jews, do ya?

    And, as always, to cover their arse, they play both sides of the field;


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    Professor Colin Tatz, an expert in South African history and politics who left Johannesburg for Australia in 1960, following the Sharpeville massacre – where South African police opened fire on a crowd of black demonstrators, killing 69 people – argues that the prominence of Jews at the helm of the anti-apartheid movement “gave an illusion of masses of dedicated Jewish opponents.”

    True, 14 of the 23 indicted whites in the Treason Trail of 1956 – when 156 people, including Nelson Mandela, were tried and eventually acquitted of treason – were Jews. As were all six of the indicted whites in the Rivonia Trial of 1963, when several leaders of the African National Congress, including Mandela, were given life prison sentences for sabotaging the apartheid regime.

    But they and other Jewish activists, Tatz said, were in the minority.

    “The majority of South African Jews went along with the apartheid system, prospered by it, voted for it and condemned those of their sons and daughters who opposed it,” Tatz concluded in the 2007 book, “Worlds Apart: The Re-Migration of South African Jews.”

    As for the elected leadership, the Director of the Australian Institute for Holocaust and Genocide Studies wrote, “Of all the formal religions represented there, the Jewish Board of Deputies in Johannesburg was the very last of the denominational institutions to condemn apartheid.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world...s-still-stained-by-apartheid.premium-1.500017
     
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    Thank you, MArlowe, My point exactly ...
    Fine work, Marlowe, good read ...
    It's so funny when two one-side arabs chear themselves.. :roflol:
     
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    The obvious differences (LOL):
    1. South African blacks were citizens of the country in which they were not allowed to travel on white buses.

    2. White buses and black buses were segregated based on skin colour whereas Israelis arabs ride on the same buses as Jews.It is only noncitizens that may not travel anywhere they wish - kind of like Zimbabweans cannot trabel to Johannesburg on a South African bus.

    You can play these games and draw false parallels - but only with people who don't know better. Count me out.
     
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    Erms you need to informs yourself before you make such a foolish claim.

    Apartheid was a very crafty creation and was concealed as follows:
    1. The system created Homelands in an attempt to claim that blacks had their own areas in which they could become citizens and by doing so installed a puppet King and a few other figureheads
    2. Called it seperate but equal, when in fact it was racist and unequal
    3. Created a three tier constitution with houses for different races, very cleverly making sure that the white hosue of parliament was ultimately the only decisive party
    4. Kept the township upsirisngs from the general public through strict television and other media control

    Go do some reading Marlowe. The only crafty ones I can identify are the anti-semites. Come to think of it, they are very obvious indeed. LOL
     
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    Abu-Mazen said he was willing to have an international force such as the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), but added, "I will never agree that there be Jewish soldiers in NATO, and I will never agree that there will be a single Israeli among us on Palestinian soil."
    Palestinian leader is a role model for Apartheid
     
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    So then, the neoZionists extend their racism to non-citizens. :mrgreen: Hafrada isn't exactly the same as apartheid- it's racism practised in a different country.

    Let's leave that to the referee.
     
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    False parallels ?

    :roflol: There you go again blabbering nonsense without following the thread . remember

    " die haastige hond verbrand sy mond"


    Go read my post then go read +learn - see my post #194 also dont fail to follow the link.

    You'll no doubt be upset + disappointed that iits not from Stormfront or an Arab source .

    Its from , the Guardian's award-winning Middle East correspondent Chris McGreal, who after four years reporting from Jerusalem and more than a decade from Johannesburg before that was exceptionally well placed to assess explosive comparison between racist Israel + racist Apartheid era South Africa .

    Remove your blinkers and go learn.

    ....
     
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    You should've listened to what some Black leaders in south africa said and are still saying about Boers and other Whites - especially farmers .


    MG - dont stop keep talking about a subject you obviously know sweet f-all about and making a right ******* of yourself .:roflol:
     
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    sorry . typo - meant to say post #124
     
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    Well said Marlowe, and remember, and as usual, my sources were right from the horses mouth, as well, re S Africa and Jews.

    A more frank admission one could barely get.

    Professor Colin Tatz, an expert in South African history and politics...

    ''Jews at the helm of the anti-apartheid movement “gave an illusion of masses of dedicated Jewish opponents.”

    Sound familiar to you, Marlowe? 'Jews against Zionism' etc?

    “The majority of South African Jews went along with the apartheid system, prospered by it, voted for it and condemned those of their sons and daughters who opposed it,” Tatz concluded in the 2007 book, “Worlds Apart: The Re-Migration of South African Jews.”


    Sound familiar to you, Marlowe?

    Don't forget the words of Israel Sharak re the Talmudic culture either, that only adds more weight to it.

    Even the Talmud itself here, it is racist.

    The Jewish Talmud is the proponent of the racist Hamitic Myth, a subject on which former employee of The Simon Wiesenthal Centre, Harold Brackman, wrote the following in his doctoral dissertation entitled, “The Ebb and Flow of Conflict: The History of Black-Jewish Relations Through 1900,”

    “There is no denying that the Babylonian Talmud was the first source to read a Negrophobic content into the episode by stressing Canaan's fraternal connection with Cush....The more important version of the myth, however, ingeniously ties in the origins of blackness - and of other, real and imagined Negroid traits - with Noah's Curse itself.

    According to it, Ham is told by his outraged father that, because you have abused me in the darkness of the night, your children shall be born black and ugly; because you have twisted your head to cause me embarrassment, they shall have kinky hair and red eyes; because your lips jested at my exposure, theirs shall swell; and because you neglected my nakedness, they shall go naked with their shamefully elongated male members exposed for all to see...”

    http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/1588

    http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Ebb_and_Flow_of_Conflict.html?id=9cubtwAACAAJ&redir_esc=y
     
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    Don't ever forget this, as well.

    Let's just say that certain people like to place a never ending, and far reaching shared blame of European and American Christians, for the obnoxious slave trade. Ten million human beings died in transit alone.

    Now, you will notice that when the guilt is passed out there, who was it laid on to? 'American and European gentiles' right? That is the accepted wisdom, when in fact, not only did only a small % of the aforementioned ever engage in, or benefit from this, it is put on all of us, with no balance, context, and, most crucial of all, and yet again, a total airbrsush of the Jewish involvement.

    Spielbergs anti Christian and anti gentile propaganda does not end with him making fraud movies like Last Days.

    In his mawkish guilt fest, Amistad, the messages and symbols are clear - This Jewish propandist is putting all of the blame on Christians.

    Make them hate themselves, and feel perpetual guilt, when they do not need to.

    I wonder how long it would take for the ADL to go into super seethe, if Mel Gibson made a film that was based on the Jewish involvement...

    Don't forget as well, it was Christians who worked to end the despicable trade. Jews did not. Just like with S Africa.

    So the patterns are clear as day.

    'And then there is Stephen Spielberg's film, "Amistad," another anti-Christian movie released just before Christmas. Amistad is "Spielberg's attempt to do for slavery what he did for the Holocaust in ‘Schindler's List'," according to the Dec. 11 London Telegraph.

    'The latest Spielberg film is based on a true story of a mutiny on La Amistad, a ship in which slaves rise up and slaughter their captors. In other words, Mr. Spielberg is once again trying to open some old wounds, and incite old inter-racial hatred and violence'

    http://www.truthinmedia.org/Columns/christianity_under_siege.html


    The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews


    very emotionless, clear and decisive portrayal of the facts regarding the Jewish role in the African slave trade. I've always believed that it was the arabs and muslims who were largely responsible for the slave trade but this book shows in astonishing and meticulous DETAIL FROM JEWISH SOURCES that the jews had a severely disproportionate role in the African Slave Trade. It certainly makes you wonder about the origin of the NAACP and the jewish role in the civil rights movement. I would recommend this to anyone who can stomach a non-stop barrage of factual references without any "victim" bias.

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    There are many books purporting to be the "History of the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Writing and references are sloppy, claims are far fetched and even invented. Not this book. I first read this book after loaning it from my public library. I antiscipated yet another hysterical diatribe against whites or polemic against African chieftans. Anyone seeking racists stereotypes should look elsewhere. This book is remarkably well researched. The quotes are all from Jewish sources and no others are included because of the risk of anti-semitic bias.

    The book basically consists of archival records of business transactions, personal correspondance and public records of the Shephadic ( North African, Southern European and Dutch Jews) kidnapping, selling and loaning of African slaves. Its descibes the Jews creation of the trans-Atlantic slave trade which began with Christopher Colombus's arrival in the "New World" and his sending Native American Indians back to Spain.

    Its describes how Jewish wealth already acquired from their slave trading during the Middle Ages and Ottoman Empire period in Europe and the Middle East enabled the Jews to have the financial resources and seafaring merchantile experiences to successfully sell slaves and then sell the produce of slave labor consisting of sugar , tobacco and rum back to the Europeans. The book describes the struggles by various European monarchs to ban the consumption of excessive amounts for sugar, tobacco and rum which was leading to social decline in people that had become addicted to sugar and tobacco. A problem that is still the scourge of western society.

    It also describes the tremendous indifference to the pain and suffering caused to African families and the obvious loss of life resulting from Jewish policey which claimed that it was more profitable to kill a slave after seven years then feed him or her nutrional food and keep them alive longer. Many contemporary health problems within the African-American population can be traced back to the slavery era in which their ancestors were fed only on molasses (residue of fermented surgar)

    Its records the cultural backlash against the Jews profiteering and pirateering from African and European monarchs and even early American settlers like Peter Styvestant in New York City. There was also numerous slave uprisings resulting in pitched and bloody battles fought between Jewish slave traders and their African captives in South America. Who would disappear into the rain forests to live alongside Native Americans. One siege lasted for nine years with the Jews eventually giving up.

    I am a cultural anthropologist so I checked out as many references as I could and they were all authentic. Particularly chilling are the personal correspondance between Jewish slave owners about their private lives and slavery. Incest and venereal disease was common place amongst them but this did not act as any kind of obstacle since the lure of huge profits clashed with personal scruples

    There are some fresh insights into the role that the Jewish merchants played in the genocide against Native American Indians. It was a Jewish merchant that supplied the infected blankets and handkerchiefs to the English. So that they could reduce their numbers on the East coast of America with small pox. It describes how the Native Americans were encouraged to participate in slave trading to prevent slaves from escaping to their encampments but the outcome was unsuccessful because the Native tribes would not treat their African captives any different from their own people. This is still a considerable amount of the African-American popluace of both Americas which has Native American Indian ancestry due to intermixing.

    All though the book is brief and riveting. Its is not easy reading at all. You really require a cast iron stomach to get through it because of the somewhat gory nature of its contents. However the archival material is so relentless and succint that although you may feel revolted by the mercenary accounts of what must be one of the worst records of mans'inhumanity to man. You still want to read it none the less.

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    This book is a riveting expose of the mythical and misconceived "familial" relationship between blacks and Jews. The Historical Research Department of the Nation of Islam formulates a solid thesis based on authoritative Jewish sources to document the disproportionate involvement of Jews in the African slave trade.

    The editors communicate their precise report in an emotionless and unbiased manner. There is not a hint of anger or so-called "rhetoric" in this work. Every claim is supported by citations "from the most respected of the Jewish authorities and whose works appear in established historical journals or are published by authoritative Jewish publishing houses."

    This book redefines how students of history and political science should view slavery. Having read this book, the reviewer sees further the pointlessness of feeding into the useful idiocy machine.

    It is unfortunate that the contents this book cannot be discussed, at least on the university level, with which the reviewer is well-acquainted, to help re-shape how slavery is interepreted in the United States. We remain in ignorance to what the eminent Jewish scholars already know.

    No other group, to my knowledge, with the exception of an article "Who Brought the Slaves to America?" written by a Walter White, Jr. published in 1968, has done Americans a service in exposing the predominant Jewish role in the African slave trade.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Secret-Relationship-Between-Blacks-Jews/dp/0963687700
     
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    Indeed , it does . There was a time , when I too went along with / accepted MS media + Israel's Ministry of Truth accounts of event , until I learnt differentlys , mainly from Jewish sources which caused me to re-examine my earlier understanding of te Israel-Palestine conflict + the role of Zionist ideology.
    This happened in Hendon . London , an area I'm quite familiar with during my apprenticeship.
    Look out for the Placard saying :

    " DISMANTLE THE ISRAELI APARTHEID REGIME IN PALESTINE " and the other placards .

    [video=youtube;JKrtKOCFWDI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKrtKOCFWDI[/video]


    In another part of the world , wwe find - Jews stoneing Christian Palestinian children on their way to school.


    Jew Settlers Stoning Palestine Christian Children walking to school

    [video=youtube;V1ovdA1VZ-c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=V1ovdA1VZ-c&feature=endscreen[/video]

    ...
     
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    Remember this as well, it is in the interests of Jews not in Israel to give an impression of dissention between them.

    Is it really heart felt though? That is what i wonder, you see. Take that Neturei Karta for instance.

    On the surface, they seem to say all the right things, and appear totally at odds, right?

    But are their motives sincere, or are their motives yet more selfishness?

    A smokescreen, perhaps?

    In short, are they doing it because they think it bad, or just bad for Jews...
     
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    Russian part Jewish 'Nazis' in Israel, who had the 'right of return'.

    :roll:

    Then they get caught, and the main mouth grasses his mates!

    :roflol:

    [video=youtube;ezXm9jkukBo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ezXm9jkukBo[/video]
     
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    Bomber crews wear uniforms. Paleos do not.
     
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    Is Palestinian solidarity an occupied zone?

    Once involved with Palestinian Solidarity you have to accept that Jews are special and so is their suffering; Jews are like no other people, their Holocaust is like no other genocide and anti-Semitism, is the vilest form of racism the world has ever known and so on and so forth.


    But when it comes to the Palestinians, the exact opposite is the case. For some reason we are expected to believe that the Palestinians are not special at all -- they are just like everyone else. Palestinians have not been subject to a unique, racist, nationalist and expansionist Jewish nationalist movement, instead, we must all agree that, just like the Indians and the Africans, the Palestinian ordeal results from run-of-the-mill 19th century colonialism - just more of the same old boring Apartheid.

    So, Jews, Zionists and Israelis are exceptional, like no one else, while Palestinians are always somehow, ordinary, always part of some greater political narrative, always just like everyone else. Their suffering is never due to the particularity of Jewish nationalism, or Jewish racism, or even AIPAC dominating USA foreign policy; no, the Palestinian is always a victim of a dull, banal dynamic - general, abstract and totally lacking in particularity.

    This raises some serious questions.

    Can you think of any other liberation or solidarity movement that prides itself in being boring, ordinary and dull? Can you think of any other solidarity movement that downgrades its subject into just one more meaningless exhibit in a museum of materialist historical happenings? I don’t think so! Did the black South Africans see themselves as being like everyone else? Did Martin Luther King believe his brothers and sisters to be inherently undistinguishable?

    I don’t think so. So how come Palestinian solidarity has managed to sink so low that their spokespersons and supporters compete against each other to see who can best eliminate the uniqueness of the Palestinian struggle into just part of a general historical trend such as colonialism or Apartheid?


    The answer is simple. Palestinian Solidarity is an occupied zone and, like all such occupied zones, must dedicate itself to the fight against ‘anti Semitism’. Dutifully united against racism, but for one reason or another, the movement is almost indifferent towards the fate of millions of Palestinians living in refugee camps and their right of return to their homeland.

    But all this can change. Palestinians and their supporters could begin to see their cause for what it is, unique and distinctive. Nor need this be all that difficult. After all, if Jewish nationalism is inherently exceptional as Zionists proclaim, is it not only natural that the victims of such a distinctive racist endeavor are at least, themselves, just as distinctive.

    So far, Palestine solidarity has failed to liberate Palestine, but it has succeeded beyond its wildest dreams in creating a Palestine Solidarity Industry, and one largely funded by liberal Zionists. We have been very productive in schlepping activists around the world promoting ‘boycotts’ and ‘sanctions’ meanwhile Israel trade with Britain is booming and Hummus Tzabar is clearly apparent in every British grocery store.

    All those attempts to reduce Palestinian ordeal into a dated, dull, generalized materialist narrative should be exposed for what they are - an attempt to appease liberal Zionists. Palestinian suffering is actually unique in history at least as unique as the Zionist project.

    Yesterday I came across this from South African minister, Ronnie Kasrils. In a comment on Israeli Apartheid he said: “This is much worse than Apartheid…. Israeli measures, the brutality, make apartheid look like a picnic. We never had jets attacking our townships; we never had sieges that lasted months after months. We never had tanks destroying houses.”


    Kasrils is dead right. It is much worse than Apartheid and far more sophisticated than colonialism. And why? Because what the Zionists did and are doing is neither Apartheid, nor is it colonialism. Apartheid wanted to exploit the Africans while Israel wants the Palestinians gone. Colonialism is an exchange between a mother and a settler state. Israel never had a mother State, though it may well have had a few ‘surrogate mothers’.

    Now is the time to look at the unique ordeal of the Palestinian people. Similarly, now is the time to look at the Zionist crime in the light of Jewish culture and identity politics.

    Can the solidarity movement meet this challenge? Probably, but like Palestine, it must first, itself, be liberated.

    :thumbsup:

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03/10/292858/zionism-worse-than-apartheid-colonialism/
     
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    "To compare this system to apartheid discredits those individuals who suffered under the tyrannical South African regime and Jim Crow laws that took place in the South through the 1960s. In fact one of the ways that this system came about in order to come into place by having two separate bus lines was at the request of Palestinian workers who are trying to be able to spend more time with their families by having an easier, cheaper and faster alternative to get to work."

    - Gregg Roman, Jewish Community Relations Council of Pittsburgh

    Source: Al Jazeera
     
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    Looks like you've been dishonestly cherry picking + left out a great deal.

    ALSO from AL - Jazeera which you've craftily failedl to mention :

    It looks like Greg Roman is just another Israeli word twisting lying SOB.

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    Human rights groups insist that Israel discriminates between Israelis and Palestinians.
    "Creating separate bus lines for Israeli Jews and Palestinians is a revolting plan," Jessica Montell, director of the B'Tselem rights group, said on Army Radio. "This is simply racism. Such a plan cannot be justified with claims of security needs or overcrowding."


    "It's pretty rich for a defender of Israeli apartheid, like Mr Roman, to exploit the economic desperation of a colonised, occupied people .... Mr Roman probably doesn't realise that he sounded very similar to the South African apartheid spokespersons in days gone by when he sort of praises the economic opportunities afforded by the benevolent colonial power to the occupied people.

    Palestinians ... don't want to be grateful for handouts ... and shared industrial zones, they want their rights and they want their freedom."
    - Ben White, journalist and author



    •Israel's Basic Law does not contain a commitment to equality for all before the law
    •Activists say that Israel carries out a system of de facto segregation in the West Bank
    •While Israeli settlements are allowed to expand, Palestinian construction permits are regularly denied without cause
    •There are also two separate systems of education - one in Hebrew in predominantly Jewish municipalites, and one in Arabic in what are described as the "municipalities of the minorities"
    •Israel also prevents Palestinians from holding Israeli citizenship and those living in the West Bank and in Gaza from being reunified - that stops someone from the West Bank for instance, marrying someone from Gaza.


    ""This is just not the segregation of buses; we are talking about the segregation of roads which did not exist even in the worst time of apartheid South Africa or during the segregation times of the United States."

    - Mustafa Barghouti, Palestinian National Initiative

    Same Al-Jaz source

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    Can You read + understand Hebrew ?

    "מוות לערבים!"‏



    Its Death to Arabs .


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    "Kill all Arabs!" - Settler graffiti on a Palestinian house in Hebron (Christian Peacemaker Teams)

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    Gas the Arabs!" - Settler graffiti on Abraham's Well, in Hebron (byChristian Peacemaker Teams)

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    An Israeli soldier inspects a wall of a mosque desecrated by
    suspected Jewish settlers,


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    If you cant understand Heeb then put it to google translate.

    mavet la' aravim" = "death to the Arabs."

    Israeli students at Haifa University danced and chanted “Death to the Arabs” at a rally on Sunday to support Israel’s bombardment of the Gaza Strip.


    [video=youtube;MNfHmlKI6-Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MNfHmlKI6-Q[/video]


    Looks like the tortoise is not only slow in motion but also a slow thinker.

    byeeee
     
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    Why would, of all people, the Mossad have been sent to give 'aid' to impoverished of S Africa.

    Yet again, another Jewish source.

    And an Israeli. And a former Mossad agent.

    Anti semite? :smile:

    Victor Ostrovsky

    “The Other Side Of Deception”
    (Page 241)

    “Uri was on a cooling off period from the United States.

    ‘What is the Mossad doing giving humanitarian assistance to blacks in Soweto?’ I remember asking him. There was no logic to it; no short-term political gain (which was the way the Mossad operated) or any visible monetary advantage.

    ‘Do you remember Nes Siyyona?’ His question sent shivers up my spine. I nodded.

    ‘This is very much the same. We’re testing both new infectious diseases and new medication that can’t be tested on humans in Israel, for several of the Israeli medicine manufacturers. This will tell them whether they’re on the right track, saving them millions in research.’

    ‘What do you think about all this?’ I had to ask.

    ‘It’s not my job to think about it.’”
     

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