Rand Paul - Potential 2016 Presidential Bid

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  1. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Really? That's the best you can do?

    "Rand" is short for "Randal."
     
  2. CharlieChalk

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    best I can do at what ?
     
  3. The Real American Thinker

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    At a criticism.
     
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    not really would you like to hear more ?
     
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    I heard him speaking on the fiscal cliff and deficit issue on the radio today......and I was impressed. I'll have to learn more about him, his record, and listen to him more.....but for now, he seems reasonable and like someone I might could get behind and support.

    As far as Hispanics.....both sides had a chance long ago to get a comprehensive immigration legislation through and signed. Bush tried very early in his administration....2004. And again in 2005, and 2007. Both sides, including Democrats cried "amnesty" and shot it down. Senator Barack Obama was one in 2007 who helped place the last nail in that coffin. It was a reasonable plan.....guest worker permits (which the Unions fought and is a major reason Democrats didn't support it).....paying a fine, working towards citizenship and learning English. ALL the things Dems now say they support....but didn't, of course, as long as George W. Bush was going to get credit for its passing. NOW....Obama says he supports many of the same things. Of course, he says that publically.....but I'm betting his Union base is telling him something different. I can't remember at the moment if Rand Paul was in Congress back then.....but if he was, we need to look at how he voted on that immigration reform legislation.
     
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    He was first elected in 2010, so no, he wasn't.
     
  7. Dr. Righteous

    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    All I know is that the #1 deciding factor for me in a candidate is his name.
     
  8. RightToLife

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    I don't know whos worse. rand paul or barrak obama.
     
  9. The Real American Thinker

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    How are the two even on the same level in your mind?
     
  10. RightToLife

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    Well on one side we have

    Rand Paul

    Goods
    -Very Pro Life
    -Very anti illegal immigration

    Bads
    -Believes in NO MILITARY. privatize the military wtf is that
    -Believes in NO FOREIGN POLICY. If we got attacked like 9/11 rand paul wouldnt do ANYTHING about it.
    -Believes in NO LAWS. cut police cut EVERYTHING

    Obama

    Goods
    -Believes in having somewhat of a military
    -Would actually do something if we got attacked.... although im starting to doubt that after his actions after benghazi

    Bads
    -Ultra pro abortion
    -Ultra pro illegal immigrant

    thats just on some of the issues i see. idk theyre both (*)(*)(*)(*) in my mind
     
  11. The Real American Thinker

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    I'm sure this will be reasonable and intelli-

    Uhm...wut? ._. Exactly where did he say that?

    And privatizing the military is NOT "no military."

    Absolutely incorrect. Rand Paul believes in non-interventionist foreign policy, meaning you only intervene in the affairs of other nations if there is a guaranteed threat to your national security. 9/11 counts.

    Where did he say no laws or police?
     
  12. RightToLife

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    paul wants to cut everything just like his daddy. not to mention his ties with the confederates and nazis. im guessing he opposes the civil rights too just like big daddy ron. such a great guy right?

    the pauls are evil as hell. i would never vote for them
     
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    although i will admit this made me laugh hahaha
     
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    Rand Paul = Third Great Republican Depression. That's assuming we ever get out of this Second Great Republican Depression!
     
  15. Dr. Righteous

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    Prove it
    Prove it
    Prove it
    So is Romney
     
  16. Dr. Righteous

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    Prove it

    Where did Ron say he opposes the civil rights?

    Great. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
     
  17. RightToLife

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    [video=youtube;rK-CXGwI2Gk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK-CXGwI2Gk[/video]

    [video=youtube;x5BU1htHSrA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5BU1htHSrA[/video]
     
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    No he wouldn't. You made that up.
     
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    Nowhere in your videos did Paul say he "opposes civil rights". You just made that up, be a man and admit it.
     
  20. RightToLife

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    seriously are you delusional? he fat out said he opposed the civil rights bill of 1964.
     
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    You can't be serious.
     
  22. RightToLife

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    so youre for rand paul?
     
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    I think you are confusing Rand's positions with Ron Paul, his dad, but even then you wouldn't be accurate. Ron Paul never said we shouldn't have a military. He wants to drastically cut back our military size and position overseas, but his son Rand has said numerous times that he disagrees with Ron on foreign policy. Rand would probably support less intervention as well, but no where near the level that Ron Paul would. Neither Ron nor Rand have said they wanted "no laws". Where did you get that from?

    You need to do some research on their actual positions.
     
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    Over liberal Democrats like Obama? Absolutely.
     
  25. RightToLife

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    i would just vote 3rd party in that election
     

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