RE: The End Of The Republican Party

So I made a pretty long thread here over 4 years ago, with the title of my post here, discussing many different incidents, and issues with the Pubs which I believed were leading up to the demise of the their party. Apparently, it was deleted within the last couple of years. If someone can find it that would be cool. Now we have Rush saying it as well. Back then most posters shrugged it off with the whole "every party has it's ups and downs, but they always bounce back". This time, I aint buyin' it.

 

Some people don't realize the pendulum swings. People said the same thing before 2010.

The difference now is that there is an ideological take over of the Republican party (not represented by Romney) but by those that are not Democrat lite (RINO's), so if anything, the soft ideologically challenged Republican party may be on it's way out. If not then Rush may be right about a third party if Obama is re-elected and leads us to ruin.

 

It doesn't mean however the end of conservatism. In fact we still are the largest single ideological group. The only reason that liberals, who only make up about 20%-25% of the population, are getting their way is because they are joined by the massive pool of idiots who need the government to take care of them.

The GOP will still be strong in many states and will be sending House and Senate members to DC for quite some time.

 

Yes I totally agree they have ruined themselves. WTH were they thinking?

 

I say the quicker they leave the better. The democrats will become the new right and...BRING ON THE GREEN PARTY!

By the way you're in the bubble if you think Obama has done anything other than better this country.

Here's a few example's

1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems.

2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs.

3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.

4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.

5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012. According to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the combat mission there will be over by next year.

6. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.

7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades. The government expects to lose $16 billion of its investment, less if the price of the GM stock it still owns increases.

8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.

10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi: In March 2011, joined a coalition of European and Arab governments in military action, including air power and naval blockade, against Gaddafi regime to defend Libyan civilians and support rebel troops. Gaddafi’s forty-two-year rule ended when the dictator was overthrown and killed by rebels on October 20, 2011. No American lives were lost.

11. Told Mubarak to Go: On February 1, 2011, publicly called on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to accept reform or step down, thus weakening the dictator’s position and putting America on the right side of the Arab Spring. Mubarak ended thirty-year rule when overthrown on February 11.

12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.

13. Improved America’s Image Abroad: With new policies, diplomacy, and rhetoric, reversed a sharp decline in world opinion toward the U.S. (and the corresponding loss of “soft power”) during the Bush years. From 2008 to 2011, favorable opinion toward the United States rose in ten of fifteen countries surveyed by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, with an average increase of 26 percent.

14. Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Spending: As part of the 2010 health care reform bill, signed measure ending the wasteful decades-old practice of subsidizing banks to provide college loans. Starting July 2010 all students began getting their federal student loans directly from the federal government. Treasury will save $67 billion over ten years, $36 billion of which will go to expanding Pell Grants to lower-income students.

15. Created Race to the Top: With funds from stimulus, started $4.35 billion program of competitive grants to encourage and reward states for education reform.

16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards: Released new fuel efficiency standards in 2011 that will nearly double the fuel economy for cars and trucks by 2025.

17. Coordinated International Response to Financial Crisis: To keep world economy out of recession in 2009 and 2010, helped secure from G-20 nations more than $500 billion for the IMF to provide lines of credit and other support to emerging market countries, which kept them liquid and avoided crises with their currencies.

18. Passed Mini Stimuli: To help families hurt by the recession and spur the economy as stimulus spending declined, signed series of measures (July 22, 2010; December 17, 2010; December 23, 2011) to extend unemployment insurance and cut payroll taxes.

19. Began Asia “Pivot”: In 2011, reoriented American military and diplomatic priorities and focus from the Middle East and Europe to the Asian-Pacific region. Executed multipronged strategy of positively engaging China while reasserting U.S. leadership in the region by increasing American military presence and crafting new commercial, diplomatic, and military alliances with neighboring countries made uncomfortable by recent Chinese behavior.

20. Increased Support for Veterans: With so many soldiers coming home from Iraq and Iran with serious physical and mental health problems, yet facing long waits for services, increased 2010 Department of Veterans Affairs budget by 16 percent and 2011 budget by 10 percent. Also signed new GI bill offering $78 billion in tuition assistance over a decade, and provided multiple tax credits to encourage businesses to hire veterans.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/obamas_top_50_accomplishments035755.php

 

The republicans need to expand their base or they will be relegated to the dust bin of history in the coming years. Being the party of the white backlash worked for them for a time but the demographic changes in the population are catching up with them. Gonna have to drive out some of the more blatant racist immigrant bashing elements republicans as your base of angry whites is shrinking.

 

The Republican party will fall because they aren't offering anything radically different than the Democrats. The only people fighting the Keynesians have the same last name and one is retiring. The only people fighting for liberty have the same last name and one is retiring. They think they can exist off swearing they will reduce taxes, but then say to a voting population which is 95% middle and lower classes that their taxes won't be reduced "that much", that they may have to sacrifice a few deductions, and have opened mouth insert foot with the poor.

If you have any question as to its survival look at the polls of Romney against Obama. If the American people blamed the Democrats for the economy then the Republicans would be ahead by double digits.

The problem with the Republican party is that partisans have no clue as to how everyone else feels around them. They are so busy pointing out everything the Democrats are doing wrong to each other, with zero self-introspection, and only associate with their circle of friends that they think "it has to be obvious" that Obama has got to go and ran on a party platform that only they want.

I will give an example of this board. Republicans make fun of Ron Paul daily here. They make fun of Ron Paul supporters. They are so out of touch that they don't get that Ron Paul wasn't picking up Republicans alone, the bulk of his support came from independents and the youth vote that typically goes to Democrats.

They could have brought in a whole new generation of Republicans that want freedom so badly that they are willing to a) trade security for it and b) trade socialism for it.

These are 19 years old that are quoting Jefferson and Rothbard and saying to get rid of the welfare state because it hurts people in the long term. That hasn't happened since, well, Jefferson's time. But because they are young they are also adamant and unyielding so you will not lure them with people whose approach to 80% of all Americans is a "let them eat cake" strategy of speaking. They want to be inspired.

 

When you consider the position our nation was in 4 years ago when Obama took office, it's both ingenuine and plain stupid for the right to be mad at the Democrats becuase our nation "isn't better enough". Its' clear that Obama did more than anyone expected and more than McCain or any right wing loser would have been capable of, and all this despite the last two years of nothing but obstruction from a do-nothing, try to make Obama fail Congress that cares nothing about our country. Better, but "not better enough" is not a stance that will inspire people to vote for you, even if that's the reality of the right wing position right now.

 

Unskewed poll

http://unskewedpolls.com/qstarnewsquickpoll.cfm

 

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Yes obviously bubbled and believing exactly what you want to believe with that site.

So you know what they did right? They noticed that more democrats had voted in those polls so they "unskewed" the results by evening up the numbers so that the new poll results showed how it would look in a fantasy world if there weren't more democratic voters in those states. Sad state of the world for people like yourself is: THERE ARE MORE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS THERE. lol

 

So skewing the polls to represent the populace is a bad thing?

 

They are misrepresenting the populace if they skew the polls and pretend there are an equal amount of pubs as there are dems. That's fantasy land.

 

I believe that poll is pretty accurate.

 

Oh yea it's totally accurate. 100% accurate if you expect the exact same number from both parties showing up on election day. Yep, it's gonna be really, really close if that happens.

 

So he spent a (*)(*)(*)(*) ton of money, created new regulations, stuck our noses is more middle east business and you think these are all good things? Amazing.

 

The party filled with the likes of you in opposition to most of this, has no right to govern, and the people are speaking to that end.
With priorities so far up your rears that all you can think about is getting rid of the other guy so we can get what we want, it's surprising it's taken this long for people in your own ranks to see this coming.

 

How do they expect to keep winning elections with such dated ideologies? A lot of Dems are fiscally conservative, and a lot of conservatives vote Dem. The Neocons have no place in today's politics.

 

How do they expect to keep winning elections with such dated ideologies? A lot of Dems are fiscally conservative, and a lot of conservatives vote Dem.

 

Here's Rush at his finest.
[video]http://videos.mediaite.com/video/Rush-Limbaugh-091012[/video]

 

They ignore the bad, focus on the good. That is partisan politics. The sooner we rebel against this mentality the better. People are supposed to be overly-skeptical of government.

 

Conservatives are going to be around for quite some time regardless of whether the Republican party goes away or not. You're free to stay here and fight, but Canada already has the government hand-holding measures in place that you need.
You might consider relocating. Just a thought.

 

Republicans are more enthused as they were back in 2010. Look for a landslide.

 

So are many other voters, you are in for a major disappointment in November, until then enjoy your fantasies.

 

No they aren't. Did you even see what happened in 2010? Have you been paying attention at all?