Reagan was an awesome president… if you love gun control

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  1. TedintheShed

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    Let’s take a look at this Tyrant’s past on the issue:

    1. Helped ban open carry in CA (Mulford Act)
    2. Banned the sale of machine guns & other automatic weapons
    3. Played a huge role in the temporary ban of semi-auto/“assault”-style guns
    4. Mandated background checks for handgun purchases

    When you hear people talk about a “slippery slope” for gun control, Reagan should be one of the first names they mention.

    Donald Trump was not too far behind him though.

    To read more in depth: https://theweek.com/articles/582926/how-ronald-reagan-learned-love-gun-control

    So yes Republicans this is just one reason why when we look at you and Democrats, freedom loving individuals like myself see few real differences.
     
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    I’ve said this before. I thought his one major downfall was guns.
     
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    you guys still have guns? i thought joe hoosein biden collected those when he locked all patriots up in the old wal marts.​
     
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    I think more gun control actually happens under republicans. I am not sure how or why because democrats definitely advocate for more of it. I think republican presidents tend to cave for a bit of good news coverage. I’m not really sure
     
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    We pretend now.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All of those almost sound like "moderate" proposals, by todays standards.

    And another example of how one thing can set a precedent for another, and what a slippery slope these type of laws are.
    Look where things have ended up today.

    In a few states it's almost like a gestapo.
     
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    oh, and the drug war, and doubled the fica tax (the most regressive tax effecting only the working class, ) and he did negotiate with terrorists, sending missile parts to iran, not to mention the recession of 1987 and the savings and loan crash. other than that ....
     
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    In his campaign page he wanted the assault rifle ban reinstated with a $200 tax to register any gun that qualifies as one already owned or turn it in. He also wants to register high capacity magazines with the same $200 fee per mag. I wonder how many gang members will do that. Or anyone who lives outside the law for that matter.
     
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    That was a weird deal wasn’t it. That was one he never really lived down.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've noticed a lot of freedom-taking laws were passed by Republicans.
    Why? Were Republicans more likely to push these laws than Democrats? No, of course not. (Everyone knows the opposite is the case)
    The reason was those people who cared about freedom had their guard down, during Republican control. They assumed if Republicans were the ones passing it, it wouldn't be so bad.

    And that's exactly what's probably going to happen again. Conservatives will keep resisting something until finally some Republicans come along and push it, and that will be when conservative resistance against it is at its weakest.

    (Yes, there do exist some Progressives who care about individual liberties and would be screaming, but they're in a minority. Just going by reading the comments from most of the Progressives on this forum, it seems like most of them totally wouldn't mind living under Soviet-style control, so long as it was being run by people from their own side)
     
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    That's so they can use punishment and coercive legal action to force an owner to turn it over, if a judge issues a temporary order telling that person they are not allowed to have it.

    With information comes more control. Not everyone realizes all the different ways that could work.

    When you start asking what do they need that information for, and give that some deep thought, you can start seeing what's going to happen in the future.

    Rights will instead turn into privileges, privileges that can be revoked at any time for any reasons, whether be flimsy or trivial, at the whim of some extremely biased judge or based on some vague wording in a law.

    You want to see what the end goal is, look at how things are in the UK.
    There was that one guy who local authorities permanently took away his license to have hunting rifles just because local authorities did not like his philosophy about self defense as expressed in one of his YouTube videos.
     
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    He also closed down mental health facilities. They literally just gave patients a months supply of their psychiatric medicine and put them on the streets. I know this because one of our neighbors had a middle-aged son who was released. He attacked his mom with a cleaver and was still holding it when the police arrived. The mom was bleeding to death underneath her overturned walker but paramedics couldn't save her. It made front page in our area at the time.

    A rather large percentage of the prison system are really people with unchecked mental illnesses. Some of them even committed petty crime so they could be arrested and have somewhere to sleep and eat.

     
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    I’m opposed to it, I was just stating his position as he said it during his campaign
     
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    Yes, I know this deeply affected Democrat areas.
     
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    More than one...

    There we go!
     
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    He's trying terribly hard to over come him Ronnie Rayguns and Denetia Joe would have interesting conversations in their twilight years. Wonder how those would go?
     
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    The RINOs are playing controlled opposition. Both parties are globalist authoritarians after their results are sifted out of their rhetoric.
     
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    If Reagan had followed his own rhetoric, he would've been the greatest President. Sadly, he didn't. Tho it may be worth noting that much of what he did that was contrary to how he spoke was after he got shot... Messaged received, methinks.
     
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    Interesting.

    My son owns an AR-15 and he mentioned recently that if sales of such weapons are banned, those who already owned them should have a choice between turning them in for a lump sum, turning them in for a hefty tax break, or paying a one-time "fine" of $200.
     
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    The "Greatest American President" has yet to serve, and unlikely to given the partisan chasm the country slips deeper into.
     
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    If they're banned, the lump sum would have to be very large to compete with the 'black market' price, which would skyrocket.

    The average price of an AK-47 worldwide is around $500(US). But in Sydney Australia they go for around $15000(US). Prices would be similar for a civilian AR-15, certainly within 30%. Thats one hell of an incentive to become a 'criminal'...
     
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    I really like this post. You hit it. I'm so tired of this being some senior citizen popularity contest. We NEED to stop putting these silly labels on these people. We stopped believing in Santa, the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy. Why can't some stop imagining these people as gods of some sort?

    P.S. My apologies if anybody needed a spoiler alert about Santa, the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy.
     
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    It's also one hell of an incentive to be a gun collector.
     

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