Report: Investigator Says Evidence Showing Deceased DNC Staffer Seth Rich Was Emailing With WikiLeak

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  1. HTownMarine

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    Why wouldn't you?

    It's way easier than actually discussing the subject.
     
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    Here's more;

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/16/d...over-up-of-seth-rich-murder-are-preposterous/


    DC Mayor Says Allegations Of Cover-Up Of Seth Rich Murder Are ‘Preposterous’

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    WASHINGTON — District of Columbia Mayor Muriel Bowser called allegations that the city’s police department is involved in a cover-up in the Seth Rich murder investigation “preposterous.”


    Rich was a Democratic National Committee staffer who was killed last July in Washington in what the Metropolitan Police Department determined was a botched robbery attempt. His wallet, iPhone and watch were left on his person Like so many other murders in the city, it remains unsolved.


    Rod Wheeler, a former D.C. homicide detective and Fox News contributor whose private investigation firm was hired by a third party to investigate the murder, made the allegation in an interview with Fox 5 WTTG.


    “I have a source inside the police department that has looked at me straight in the eye and said, ‘Rod, we were told to stand down on this case and I can’t share any information with you,'” Wheeler claims. “Now, that is highly unusual for a murder investigation, especially from a police department. Again, I don’t think it comes from the chief’s office, but I do believe there is a correlation between the mayor’s office and the DNC and that is the information that will come out [Tuesday].”


    Wheeler also claims Rich was in contact with document dump site Wikileaks before his death.


    Bowser said Tuesday morning she had little if no reaction to Wheeler’s investigation but did say, “I think it’s important to talk about that any homicide in the District of Columbia gets the full attention of the full attention of the Metropolitan Police Department. In fact, we have a cold case unit that is always focused on how they solve homicides in D.C. no matter how old the homicides are.”


    When asked by TheDC if she had spoken to the DNC immediately following Rich’s death, Bowser replied, “Of course. The Metropolitan Police Department, in the course of their investigation, have reached out to any and all parties.”


    Bowser went on to say, “I don’t think I particularly talked to the DNC. They came in to talk to us. I was with [Rich’s family] and their discussions with us.”


    Was anything related to a “stand down” order of the case discussed?


    “Certainly not. That’s preposterous,” Bowser responded.


    Rich’s family disputed Wheeler’s claims in a statement Tuesday.


    “As we’ve seen through the past year of unsubstantiated claims, we see no facts, we have seen no evidence, we have been approached with no emails and only learned about this when contacted by the press,” the statement said. “Even if tomorrow, an email was found, it is not a high enough bar of evidence to prove any interactions as emails can be altered and we’ve seen that those interested in pushing conspiracies will stop at nothing to do so.”


    The statement continued, “We are a family who is committed to facts, not fake evidence that surfaces every few months to fill the void and distract law enforcement and the general public from finding Seth’s murderers. The services of the private investigator who spoke to press was offered to the Rich family and paid for by a third party, and contractually was barred from speaking to press or anyone outside of law enforcement or the family unless explicitly authorized by the family.”


    Wikileaks hit back at the statement by attacking the family’s spokesman, former Congressional Progressive Caucus staffer Brad Bauman, a partner with the Democratic consulting firm the Pastorum Group.



    Fox News reported Tuesday that an FBI forensic report revealed he communicated with WikiLeaks through its director Gavin MacFadyen.


    “I have seen and read the emails between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks,” the federal investigator told Fox News, confirming the MacFadyen connection. He said the emails are in possession of the FBI, while the stalled case is in the hands of the Washington Police Department.


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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I remember reading an email chain from one of Pedestas leaked emails of him threatening leakers how he would make an example out of anyone that does leak information

    took me awhile to find it but here it is

    > > > > I think we have to make examples now of people who have violated the trust > of HRC and the rest of the team. People going forward need to know there > are stiff consequences for leaking, self-promotion, unauthorized talking > with the press. No one – literally no one talked to the press in either > Obama campaign without clearing it with campaign brass.
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082

    Looks like Seth Rich was made an example of
     
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    http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/16/med...d:+rss/cnn_showbiz+(RSS:+CNN+-+Entertainment)

    Story on DNC staffer's murder dominated conservative media -- hours later it fell apart
    by Oliver Darcy @CNNMoney
    May 17, 2017: 6:49 AM ET

    It took only hours for one of the biggest stories in conservative media this week, which some outlets had chosen to focus on over news that President Trump disclosed classified information to senior Russian officials, to fall apart.
    On Monday night, Rod Wheeler, a private investigator and Fox News contributor, put things in motion during an interview with WTTG-TV, a Fox affiliate in Washington.
    Wheeler, who was under contract with the family of Seth Rich, a Democratic National Committee staffer who was fatally shot in July, told WTTG-TV evidence existed that proved Rich had been in contact with Wikileaks before his death.
    For months, right-wing media outlets have floated unproven theories that Rich was the person who provided Wikileaks thousands of internal DNC emails, and that his death might have been connected with the supposed leak.
    No real evidence has been provided to support such claims and Washington's Metropolitan Police Department, which continues to investigate the murder, says there is evidence to suggest he may have been the victim of a botched robbery.

    Nevertheless, a handful of right-wing media outlets have latched on to the theory -- and Wheeler's remarks on Monday allowed the narrative to once again ricochet throughout the conservative media universe.
    "NOT RUSSIA, BUT AN INSIDE JOB?" asked Breitbart, the far-right website previously led by White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, which said that "if proven, the report has the potential to be one of the biggest cover-ups in American political history, dispelling the widespread claim that the Russians were behind hacks on the DNC."
    "DEAD DNC STAFFER 'HAD CONTACT' WITH WIKILEAKS," declared the headline of the Drudge Report, the highly-trafficked conservative news destination.
    Fox News on Tuesday morning joined in the chorus, publishing a lead story on its website about the "DC MURDER MYSTERY." The story said Wheeler had made the claim Wikileaks had been in contact with Rich. It added that a federal investigator, who it said had spoken on the condition of anonymity, corroborated it.
    But Tuesday afternoon, Wheeler told CNN he had no evidence to suggest Rich had contacted Wikileaks before his death.
    Wheeler instead said he only learned about the possible existence of such evidence through the reporter he spoke to for the FoxNews.com story. He explained that the comments he made to WTTG-TV were intended to simply preview Fox News' Tuesday story. The WTTG-TV news director did not respond to multiple requests for comment.
    "I only got that [information] from the reporter at Fox News," Wheeler told CNN.
    Asked about a quote attributed to him in the Fox News story in which he said his "investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and Wikileaks," Wheeler said he was referring to information that had already been reported in the media.
    A Fox News spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment by the time of publication.

    Earlier Tuesday, Brad Bauman, a spokesman for the Rich family, released a statement in which he said the family had "seen no evidence" to suggest Seth Rich had been in contact with Wikileaks.
    Bauman told CNN the outlets that had run with the story "have shown over and over again that they are willing to lie and manipulate the facts" to further "their own political end."
    "I think it's important for everyone at Fox News to be careful with this information and how this story breaks because using the legacy of a murder victim in such an overtly political way is morally reprehensible," he said.
    Bauman also said the Rich family was reviewing possible legal action against Wheeler for speaking about the case publicly. A contract between Wheeler and the Rich family prohibited Wheeler from speaking to the media about his ongoing investigation, Bauman said.
    "It is possible that this private investigator is in breach of a non disclosure contract," Bauman told CNN, adding that the private investigator's public comments have "seriously impeded the ability of the Metropolitan Police Department to investigate."
    Asked whether he was in breach of a contract, Wheeler said, "I don't know, it's hard to say."
    "I think that's something I will have to work out with [the family]," he added.
    Wheeler was put in touch with the Rich family through Dallas businessman Ed Butowsky, who told CNN he had offered to pay any bills associated with the investigation.
    "You have a family who can't afford a PI. Their son was killed. So I offered to help out," Butowsky said.
    Butowsky, a financial adviser, has provided commentary to Fox News on a number of occasions. He has also written columns for Breitbart, and was critical of Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election.
    Speaking with NBC News, Butowsky had denied his involvement with Wheeler and the Rich family. Asked why, he told CNN, "I didn't want to talk to NBC."
    Butowsky also said that, thus far, he hasn't "paid any money to anybody." He said Wheeler was investigating the Rich murder at no cost.
    CNNMoney (New York)
    First published May 16, 2017: 9:17 PM ET
     
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    You're right, we should just trust CNN which illegally gave debate answers to Hillary and was her blatant propaganda wing.
     
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    Wheeler didn't work for the Rich family and they are saying he's a liar.
     
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    Oh, I was referencing Mr. Bauman, the Rich family representative.
     
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    Who is the other guy who hired Wheeler and was paying his fees?
     
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    More probable is that the if he turned things over to Wikileaks and some of them may have cast Putin and the Russians in a bad light and Putin had him offed after Assange notified him of the documents.
     
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    Lol, Breitbart sourcing Fox News. :D

    That's like two levels of fake news.
     
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    If he was murdered for exposing DNC corruption, he died an American hero.
     
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    There is zero evidence of that and NO evidence that Seth Rich was a theif or that he gave documents to Assange or wikileaks.
     
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    Maybe you and your liberal ilk don't believe the evidence is compelling enough, but there IS evidence.
     
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    I'm not a liberal and I don't like damning a dead boy without evidence.
     
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    There is more evidence of Seth Rich being the provider of the DNC emails to WikiLeaks then there is of any Trump/Russian collusion but that sure in the hell doesn't stop you from indicting Trump on a daily basis
     
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    no crime was committed, bro
     
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    Here's more:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266732/slain-dnc-official-contacted-wikileaks-matthew-vadum

    SLAIN DNC OFFICIAL CONTACTED WIKILEAKS?
    The late Seth Rich, not Russia, may have leaked the internal DNC documents.
    May 17, 2017 Matthew Vadum 152

    The young Democratic National Committee official rumored to have leaked DNC documents to WikiLeaks and who was murdered in the nation’s capital last year was, just as previously claimed, in touch with Julian Assange’s document-dumping hacktivist group, media reports confirm.

    This raises the possibility that Russia had nothing to do with the attacks on the DNC’s computer servers – assuming those actually took place. And if Russia didn’t hack the DNC, then the left-wing conspiracy theory that Russian President Vladimir Putin launched cyber-attacks on the DNC to help Donald Trump win the election – and that Trump knowingly colluded with the Russians in those attacks – is undermined.

    Despite the mass media hysteria, there is still no publicly available evidence the Trump campaign somehow worked with Russia to affect the election result. Sources in newspaper articles are never identified. There is not a scintilla of proof of improper conduct. All we have is the alleged say-so of faceless CIA spooks like Evan McMullin whose motives are questionable.

    Retired Washington homicide detective Rod Wheeler made the explosive claim that the late DNC staffer Seth C. Rich was in contact with WikiLeaks yesterday to Fox News.

    On Sean Hannity’s TV show Wheeler said the unidentified federal investigator who gave him the information "came across [as] very credible. When you look at that, with the totality of everything else that I found in this case, it’s very consistent for a person with my experience to begin to think, 'Well, perhaps there were [sic] some email communication between Seth and WikiLeaks.'"

    The same investigator spoke to Fox and explained that the FBI examined Rich’s laptop computer within 96 hours of his death. The FBI concluded that Rich had been in contact with WikiLeaks official Gavin MacFadyen, an American journalist living in London who died of lung cancer on Oct. 22, 2016.

    The investigator, who asked not to be identified, confirmed the MacFadyen connection to Rich, telling Fox “I have seen and read the emails between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks.” The FBI has the emails but the stalled murder investigation remains with Washington’s Metropolitan Police Department, he said. “The revelation is consistent with the findings of Wheeler, whose private investigation firm was hired by a third party on behalf of Rich’s family to probe the case,” Fox reports.

    “My investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks,” said Wheeler. “I do believe that the answers to who murdered Seth Rich sits on his computer on a shelf at the D.C. police or FBI headquarters.”

    The federal gumshoe told Fox that Rich transferred 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments between DNC leaders, dated from January 2015 through late May 2016, to MacFadyen before May 21 last year. On July 22 last year, 12 days after Rich’s death, WikiLeaks published internal DNC emails that seemed to indicate senior party officials colluded to prevent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont from securing the Democratic presidential nomination.

    The emails revealed, among other things, that DNC officials threatened to out Sanders as an atheist to hurt his candidacy in believer-rich Kentucky and West Virginia. One problem: Sanders, unlike most of his fellow Marxists, isn’t an atheist. He is a Jew who has made statements indicating he is religious and spiritual and that these things are important to him.

    Outrage over the DNC rigging the primaries on behalf of eventual nominee Hillary Clinton cost DNC chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz her job.

    Rich’s family, D.C. police, the DNC, an anonymous former federal law enforcement official, and a current FBI official deny Wheeler’s claims. Rich’s laptop “never contained any e-mails related to WikiLeaks, and the FBI never had it,” the former official told NBC News. The current FBI official told NBC Washington’s Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) never gave Rich’s computer to the FBI.

    Of Wheeler’s claims, DNC flak Xochitl Hinojosa said, "We know of no evidence that supports these allegations. We are continuing to cooperate with investigators and have no further comment.”

    Rich was 27 when he was shot twice in the back by a person or persons unknown near his Washington, D.C. home at 4:20 in the morning on July 10, 2016. Apparently there was a struggle but his wallet, credit cards, cellphone, and wristwatch were not stolen. Even though the evidence doesn’t suggest he was robbed, the MPD has characterized the unsolved case as a botched robbery, reportedly because Rich’s Bloomingdale neighborhood had recently seen several muggings.

    Rich had been active in Democratic Party politics since high school and graduated from Omaha, Nebraska-based Creighton University in 2011 with a degree in political science and history. At the time of his death, he served as the DNC’s Deputy Director-Data-for-Voter Protection/Expansion.

    The police won’t say if Rich was able to identify his attackers or offer any information before he died in a hospital. A surveillance video reportedly shows Rich being followed by two men, but police refuse to make it public.

    After the murder, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange made the claim that he had been working with Rich and seemingly implied he was killed because he was the source of the hacked DNC emails. At least $150,000 in rewards have been offered for information in the case. WikiLeaks is offering $20,000. The MPD is offering $25,000. Republican lobbyist Jack Burkman, who has worked with the Rich family, is also offering a reward. Fox News and other media outlets report Burkman’s reward is $130,000 but Washingtonian magazine gives the figure as $105,000.

    Although the received wisdom in Washington is that Russia, absolutely, positively, hacked the DNC and gave WikiLeaks the DNC documents, Assange has long insisted neither the Russian government nor any “state party” handed his group those documents.

    The question of who or what hacked into the DNC’s servers – if there were cyber-attacks at all – isn’t as clear-cut or settled as the mainstream media suggests.

    Hacker “Guccifer 2.0” claimed credit for the attacks on DNC servers.

    A private cyber-security firm hired by the DNC claimed Russia was the culprit. But the Central Intelligence Agency reportedly now has the ability to mimic foreign intelligence agencies’ hack attacks by leaving electronic “fingerprints” creating the false impression of a foreign intrusion into computer networks.

    According to WikiLeaks, “[t]he CIA's Remote Devices Branch's UMBRAGE group collects and maintains a substantial library of attack techniques 'stolen' from malware produced in other states including the Russian Federation.”

    With UMBRAGE and related projects the CIA cannot only increase its total number of attack types but also misdirect attribution by leaving behind the "fingerprints" of the groups that the attack techniques were stolen from. UMBRAGE components cover keyloggers, password collection, webcam capture, data destruction, persistence, privilege escalation, stealth, anti-virus (PSP) avoidance and survey techniques.
     
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    They need to look at Michael Steele's dossier on Trump that the FBI paid Steele for. So far everything in that dossier is unverifiable and therefore, no proof of a Trump/Russia conspiracy. Steele was hired by the Democrats to FIND a connection between Trump and the Russians at the behest of Hillary Clinton. There is no 'there' there.
     
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    Uh oh.
     
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    When was the last time a rightwing conspiracy came true?

    I think this is just another pizzagate.
     
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    Huh? The "right wing position" is that there is no conspiracy. The left wing position is that there is a MASSIVE conspiracy between Trump and the Russians to overthrow US democracy.
     
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    Yeah and what about this (from the quote you posted)

    "Rich was 27 when he was shot twice in the back by a person or persons unknown near his Washington, D.C. home at 4:20 in the morning on July 10, 2016. Apparently there was a struggle but his wallet, credit cards, cellphone, and wristwatch were not stolen. Even though the evidence doesn’t suggest he was robbed, the MPD has characterized the unsolved case as a botched robbery, reportedly because Rich’s Bloomingdale neighborhood had recently seen several muggings."

    IMO that in no way describes a mugging. Moreover, how did he struggle with 2 bullets in his back? Further, after they shot him, why didn't they steal his wallet?
     
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    What do you mean by "right wing position"?

    Birthism, pizzagate, and now this. They are all conspiracies from the right wing nut house.

    I personally never claimed Trump has colluded with Russia to harm our democracy, but he has close ties to Russia, that's undeniable.
     
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    his watchband was damaged.

    his face and hands were bruised.

    his computer was never looked at by the police, and no emails to Wikileaks were ever found on them.

    this was nothing but one more robbery gone bad.

    Rich should have just given them what they wanted and NOT fought back.


    ..and btw, your article is full of lies that have been retracted by Wheeler.
     
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