We've apparently seen the first real case of the new "immigration enforcement" by the Republican Administration. Sorry, closed the link but here's another one on this story: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...fear-mom-s-deportation-after-21-years-n718736 Both her and her husband were brought into the United States years ago as young teenagers and, as minors, they didn't violate our immigration laws. Conservatives and liberals alike have repeatedly stated that these people that were brought in by their parents and raised to be Americans should NOT be deported. Yes, Garcia de Rayos committed a crime almost a decade ago. The crime wasn't "murder" or "rape" and it wasn't even a case of "shoplifting" from the local 7-11. Garcia de Rayos' crime was that she was working. Garcia de Rayos didn't have a "green card" that would allow her to work because our immigration laws don't provide any means for a person brought into the United States as a child to become a legal immigrant. Because she was in the country illegally, and working in American without a green card, she was scheduled for deportation but we had a compassionate and qualified person in the White House that issued an executive order establishing Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DCAC) that even Republicans supported. This deferred the deportation of Garcia de Rayos to allowed time for Congress to revise the immigration laws that it was unable to do based upon the Republican "Oppose anything Obama" partisanship we've had throughout the last eight years. So there you have it. A married mother raising her two children that are both American citizens, that wasn't guilty of violating our immigration laws because she was brought here a minor by her parents, that was unable to obtain lawful immigration status because we don't accommodate people like her under our current law, that's only crime was working for a living in the United States, and that's only mistake was to walk into the ICE office because she had a reporting obligation under the DACA program. I don't care if someone is a Republican or a Democrat. Are people like Garcia de Rayos that the Republicans should be deporting or was it better when the focus was on the "murderers and rapists" that commit crimes against the American people and our property during the last eight years?
Obviously murders and rapists should come first, but other criminals should go too. This woman committed a felony, by using a fake social security card. As the great John McLaughlin used to say, "Bye Bye!"
Who cares about the rule of law let 'em stay and their little dog too. We can always use another 7-11 clerk.
How interesting. First claiming that "Obviously murders and rapists should come first" but then stating a person that didn't commit a crime against any person or property should be deported first. Because of budgetary constraints there's only a limited number of deportations each year and for every person like Garcia de Rayos that's deported it means that one more of the murderers or rapists is going to stay. So you've chosen to keep one more murderer or rapist so that Garcia de Rayos can be deported. Thank you for clarifying that you want the murderers and rapists to remain in the United States.
Please explain why it is wrong to send Mexican nationals back to Mexico. Also, she committed identity theft - a felony that is far from a victimless crime. Come in legally, or get out. Simple as that.
No...there are millions of people just like Garcia de Rayos. In fact, that's the condition of most illegals. They have not killed anyone, but they've committed multiple crimes, including multiple felonies, to live and work here. She just happened to be in the net now. Are you arguing we should only deport criminals if they rape and murder? I mean, a citizen would face prison time, so I think she's getting off easy. Would you rather keep them here, but jail them? Or do you think they should never be charged with any crimes they commit?
She fraudulently and illegally secured employment in a country she had no legal right to be in. Have a safe trip back to Mexico. Good riddance. - - - Updated - - - What a pathetic strawman. We can deport murderers and rapists (who the "compassionate and qualified person in the White House" you referenced allowed to stay in the country), and other criminals. Boost the ICE budget if necessary. Get them out of here.
Aliens assume SSN# they don't pull them out of thin air. It's ID theft, it's fraud, and it's criminal. Imagine an IRS audit because someone else has earned thousand$ that the gov't says you "failed to report". It's not victimless.
The problem of people brought here as kids and never becoming legal has been a long going issue........that neither party has attempted to fix. It should not have been corrected with an executive order either. There are LAWS that we have that are voted upon by the representatives of the people. If you don't like a law then it needs to be changed the same way. As far as the fake SSN.......where do these numbers come from? Are they someones number that died? Are they someones number that is still alive and trying to live their own life. If the answer is the second I believe that is a more serious crime and should have punishment, which is currently a felony. If I had a felony I would not be able to do many things and as an illegal one of those things is deigned access. Don't like the rules.....change them through the proper channels.
Garcia de Rayos was brought here as a young teenager by her parents. She went to our schools, became an adult, married and has two children that are American citizens. She's as American as anyone born in the United States. Her problem is the same problem that other children brought to the United States by their parents illegally face. They grow up becoming Americans just like their classmates in school. Once grown they find themselves in the United States with no options other than to stay. They can't return to their native country because they grew up here and they don't really know anything about their native country. They stay where they belong, here in the United States, but we don't have any way for them to apply to be here legally. That's our fault, not theirs, because they've done nothing wrong. Identity theft can be very serious when people take out credit cards in someone else's name or use it for other nefarious money making (stealing) purposes. Garcia de Rayos didn't commit identity theft. She had "false papers" " (fake ID) so she could work at the amusement park. We return to the same problem of who do we want to deport. There are about 11.5 illegal aliens in the United States. Perhaps 1.5 million are the "criminals" we need to deport. We're fundamentally limited to deporting about 400,000 per year and under the prior administration this effort was focused on these criminals. Of course once we deport them many return because they're criminals sometimes associated with drug smuggling. So that 1.5 million keeps replenishing itself. Of the other 10 million about half fall into the group have family here such, as Garcia de Rayos with her children that are American citizens, while the other half lack a family connection. Generally speaking they're all law-abiding, hard-working, close-knit families with a sense of community. So we return to the choice, either we deport the "criminal" or we deport the "non-criminal" illegal alien because we can only do one or the other of the two. There isn't even enough money to deport all of the criminals so any deportation other than a criminal deportation results in a criminal staying in the United States.
Actually, no, she's not. She's no more a citizen of the United States than I would be Mexican if my parents had taken me into Mexico at 14. They're not here to be Americans, they're here to take advantage of our social programs and that's really the bottom line. That's why they go to Trump rallies waving mexican flags instead of US flags. Their alleigence is to their "real" country, which is Mexico. This is one of those criminals. A felon engaged in identity theft, which, no matter how much you and people like you try to minimize, is a crime that can destroy people's lives. She didn't use a fake id. She stole someones SSN. If you don't think runing someone's credit, or getting jailed by the IRS due to this is a serious crime, then I'd say you haven't given it much thought.
So you choose to let a murderer or rapist remain because it was either her or them and we can't deport both. There isn't enough money to deport both.
What? It's cheaper to feed, clothe and take care of all their other needs than to take them to the border?
The internet. http://heavy.com/news/2017/02/guada...video-watch-family-kids-husband-video-stream/ Here's some other information on the ramifcations of these kinds of things: http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...illegal-immigrants-destroying-childrens-lives http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-pleads-guilty-agrees-fight-deportation.html
those articles are about a different woman. Guadalupe Garcia de Rayos has never been accused of identity theft
Jesus christ Ron, right there in the 1st link #1 SAYS 1. Garcia Was Convicted in 2009 of Identity Theft
I didn't say she was a citizen, I said she's an American and there are non-citizens living in the United States today that are far more American that many natural born Americans. They appreciate the liberty and freedom they find here after fleeing from some of the most oppressive places on earth. The Syrian refugee that was faced with either the tyranny of Assad or the terrorism of ISIS is far more "American" than the White Nationalist born in the United States that calls them a "terrorist" and hates them just because they're a Muslim. Despite all of the allegations the immigration to the United States has NEVER been about taking advantage of our social programs. Republicans have made this (*)(*)(*)(*) (crap) up based upon the Republican strategy that if you repeat a lie often enough then people will believe it but only the Republicans believe the lie. People come to the United States for the same reason my wife's family moved here from Eastern Europe prior to WW II and why, on my mother's side, my family first immigrated to America in the 1750's. They come to America to escape persecution, for economic opportunity, and for personal liberty. They're not coming here for Social Services and the illegal immigrant can't even receive most social services anyway. And they waved Mexican Flags at Trump rallies BECAUSE THEY'RE TRUE AMERICANS that don't disparage people because of prejudice and bigotry related to race, religion, ethnic heritage, nationality, sexual orientation, gender or any other "Non-WASP Male" characteristic. But this isn't really the place to address the lies and false propaganda from Republicans. We'll just record the vote: One Vote from the Right to send a fundamentally law abiding mother of two American children, that grew up an American in our schools, that's only crime was having fake ID for employment, and that was unfortunately caught up in one of Sheriff Joe "The Racist" Arpaio's illegal immigration sweeps about ten years ago, back to Mexico. That leaves us with one more rapist or murderer that will remain in America.
