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Rich Folks Are Just An Obama Diversion Tactic...

Discussion in 'Budget & Taxes' started by onalandline, Aug 8, 2012.

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  1. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Economists have done so well for Obama.
     
    onalandline, Sep 2, 2012
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    They've managed to reduce the severity of the crisis. One shouldn't be utopian and think Master President can wave his hand and make things all glorious
     
    Reiver, Sep 2, 2012
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    That's EXACTLY why statism sucks and why the free market (not corporatism but the free market) rocks: because you CAN'T trust someone to be "the leader". Legitimate, non-troll post.
     
    PureRightie, Sep 2, 2012
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    The free market cannot exist in capitalism. Its a myth used to manipulate the gullible towards an irrational dogma
     
    Reiver, Sep 2, 2012
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    PureRightie Banned

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    Ron Paul style capitalism is quite different from Mitt Romney style capitalism.

    Mitt Romney's is far superior, obviously.
     
    PureRightie, Sep 2, 2012
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Both feed twaddle at the trough; neither understands capitalism and its nature
     
    Reiver, Sep 2, 2012
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    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    It is not that he engineered it. He is not fixing it but it seems he is sustaining it
     
    ptif219, Sep 2, 2012
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    No, you showed made up nonsense. You have no idea what fascism means. He doesnt have the power to fire anyone at a corporation
     
    rahl, Sep 2, 2012
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    One doesn't fix a global crisis over night. One fire fights in order to ensure the economic paradigm is not threatened
     
    Reiver, Sep 2, 2012
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    Yet he did
     
    ptif219, Sep 3, 2012
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  11. ptif219

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    Longest sustained high unemployment since the great depression

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...f_high_unemployment_since_depression_cbo.html


    Slowest economic recovery since great depression

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...f_high_unemployment_since_depression_cbo.html


    Other presidents with recessions and slow economies did a better job than Obama. Obama appears to be incompetent for the job.
     
    ptif219, Sep 3, 2012
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    Thw global crisis, in terms of economic instability, is on a par with the Great Depression. Note that, at the time, US policy was relatively ineffective because of its conservatism and failure to quickly embrace Keynesianism.

    What policies are you after? Your attitudes over the influence of central government remind me simewhat of a Stalinist (with the belief that central economic planning is a panecea for all economic woes)
     
    Reiver, Sep 3, 2012
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many would argue that he has hindered a recovery with his haphazard spending, which is the more likely and common-sense approach.
     
    onalandline, Sep 3, 2012
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    Many? Would these all be accountants? Austerity guarantees double-dip!
     
    Reiver, Sep 3, 2012
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you live on PF? Are you ever offline?

    Common-sense folks know that the economy will not be fixed by the government throwing taxpayer money at it.
     
    onalandline, Sep 3, 2012
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    The evidence into demand management shows that your position is based on ignorance of economics. Government (expenditure in orthodox economics, wastw in heterodox) is integral for the survival of capitalism
     
    Reiver, Sep 3, 2012
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    of course he didn't.
     
    rahl, Sep 3, 2012
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    Like it did during the 1920 depression?
     
    hiimjered, Sep 3, 2012
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    Like what numerous countries have experienced because of the irrationality of right wing regime
     
    Reiver, Sep 3, 2012
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    You said guarantees which implies that it happens in all cases. When done properly, austerity measures are very effective in ending recessions and bringing about growth - as was proved by the 1920 depression.

    The reason for the failure of the recent measures is that the countries haven't actually tried austerity, they made tiny reductions and made them after most of the damage was done.
     
    hiimjered, Sep 3, 2012
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    So now Bush had control of the world economy? Obama needs to fix US economy not the world
     
    ptif219, Sep 3, 2012
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    So then Obama will celebrate 16 trillion in debt at the convention?
     
    ptif219, Sep 3, 2012
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    More opinions with no proof
     
    ptif219, Sep 3, 2012
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    He'll celebrate thr continued existence of capitalism despite the worst economic crisis in our lifetime
     
    Reiver, Sep 3, 2012
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    The crisis he is helping to continue with his failed policies
     
    ptif219, Sep 3, 2012
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