Robert Heinlein was right.

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  1. ToughTalk

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    I mean...ya? You just described "equity" (which is racism against white people). Among the other crazy **** we currently have to live through until 2024...
     
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    No there weren't, especially with fundies obstructing them.
     
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    No its not.
     
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    How is it not?
     
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    White people losing power and privilege is not racism.
     
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    BS.
    Actually racism against white people isn't what it is, it's the same old divide and congusr game progressives have been playing ever since there were progressives.
     
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    List some of them. And why do you have a problem with SSM?
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about all the bastards on the left and right stop trying to take away peoples rights? We are all quite sick of it. One side comes in power, acting like self righteous turds, and try to strip away some rights. Then the other side gets elected, acts like self righteous turds, and try to take away some more rights. How about the left and the right just **** off? One wants to pump me full of mystery drugs while stripping away our means of defending ourselves and keeping the government in check, then the other side comes in and says that women shouldn’t have a say in what happens to their bodies. Just leave people the hell alone to live their lives how they see fit.
     
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    Ah no we want to stop the spread of a contagious disease.
     
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    Like the FDR New Deal?
     
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    Well, you’ll have to do it in a way that doesn’t involve forcing people to inject stuff they don’t want Into their bodies. I was agreeable for round 1, though I didn’t think it should be mandatory. After they started saying 3 or 4 rounds might be necessary, they can **** off. That’s just the medical industrial complex and the politicians that support them getting rich off of unnecessary drugs that probably isn’t great for you, and it makes a precedent that the government can mandate what they want with your body. This is not ok, either for vaccines or abortions.
     
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  12. Gateman_Wen

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    "It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.”

    The complete quote
     
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    What part of the new deal was religious?
     
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    Well, off the top of my head... it should be obvious, but I guess you don't understand Marxism/communism very well??

    I'm sure you think in simplistic "Democrat this, Republican that" terms, so I will say that only applies to plebs below the leadership of each party - which only work for the Establishment.

    You may fall for the rhetoric and bombast, but there isn't a dimes worth of difference between Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi.

    That said, the Democrats carry the most water in terms of advancing the destructive and corrosive program that is demoralization (a communist term meaning destabilizing a society by attacking the family unit and morals of the society.

    That is why the Democrats champion any and all types of sexual perversity, abortion, premature sexualization, feminism, divorce, two parent working families, inheritance taxes to prevent assets from staying in a family (family farming has been pretty much wiped out by this).

    The Plankes of the Manifesto, Central Bank, Centralized control of Education, primacy of the state over parents (this has been coming up a lot lately), graduated income tax, etc...

    Senator Howard Metzenbaum (D-OH) was a CP lawyer, the administrations of Roosevelt and Truman were teeming with communists - Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, Harry Hopkins, Owen Lattimore, etc; Rosa Parks was a communist, and her assignment that day was to get arrested, MLK's staff was filled with communists - Hunter Pitts Odell comes to mind, etc, etc...

    The Democrats main contribution to the Establishment in waging a war of subversion against America is how successful they've been at attacking the family and dividing the people along racial, ethnic, generational, gender, lines, etc.

    Congratulations, your side won... now the tricky part - surviving the collapse and learning how to live as a serf ;)
     
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    You know, a simple "no" would have sufficed. No need to try to drown us in verbal cover.
     
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    it was the worst kind of religion-worshipping a centralized authoritarian government
     
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    Soooooo - do you want us to pour all the antibiotics down the drain?

    This is a new disease - we got the temporary fix in- now we are working ona longer term one
     
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    Quote from “If this goes on…” by Robert Heinlein
    “Banning of “Critical Race theory” and the “Don’t say Gay” bill come to mind
     
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    No, not at all. I just think the individual should be the one to decide whether or not they get the vaccine. I think people SHOULD get vaccinated. I did. But when it becomes a mandate to get injected, and then suddenly they are talking about multiple injections being required, it suddenly looks a lot more like the medical industry trying to make a massive profit off of a crisis, as well as setting a precedent that the government has control over our bodies. The individual should have the final say.
    I feel the same way about abortions. It should be an individual decision, and the government shouldn’t have a say over what someone does to their body. That is a line that should never get crossed.
     
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    The only problem with that stance is that it fails society as a whole. Now here is an interesting thought exercise and puzzle me this.

    Australia, that closed international borders and mandated “hotel quarantine” now has a 92%+ vaccination rate. Just as well though because we have been hit HARD by this years flu. America, that screamed and yelled about ANY mandatory anything and has had over 1 million die, is still under 75% fully vaccinated

    Some of this difference is that Aussies value life
     
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    I completely understand your point of view, and like I said, I believe everyone should get vaccinated. But I cannot agree with a government mandate to do so. The opportunity for massive corruption is just too easy. Suddenly all kinds of medical stuff will be mandated, and the medical industrial complex and their politician supporters will be getting filthy rich as we surrender our control over our own bodies.

    I very much value life, but value freedom, especially over our own bodies, just as much. We are in a weird spot here in the US where freedoms are being eroded by the extremes of both ends of the political spectrum. I think education is the answer, instead of mandates. But the level of division here in the US is so extreme now that political ideology is given precedence over science. I think further mandates will only make the division deeper, giving more power to the government, and less to the people.
     
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    Just giving you facts...

    You're worldview is simple. I know you don't have enough knowledge to understand.
     
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    When that's the reply you deserve, that's the reply you get.

    Quite whining and improve your post quality.
     
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    That's exactly what I was talking about, Josh.
     
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    You didn't give us any facts, you spewed a bunch crap that had nothing to do with the question.
     
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