Roe v Wade: Woman behind US abortion ruling was paid to recant

You've neither agreed nor disagreed. Just trolled.

 

Murder would imply the act is illegal.

 

You don't have to read my posts or respond to me.

 

Let's see:

Force women to undergo vaginal ultrasounds
Force women to see fetus photos
Force women to undergo 3 day waiting period
Force women to give birth...

Now pick any of those and show me the equivalent done to a man.
Anti-abortion is about controlling women.

 

Call it what you like. I call it murder. It's legal murder, don't pretend it's something else, well, I guess technically it's infanticide.

 

Murder can mean unnecessary killing. If somebody said that he murdered my dog you'd know what they meant.

 

Words have meaning. You can make up definitions if you like, but you would be wrong about their meaning.


mur·der
/ˈmərdər/

noun

1. the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
   "the stabbing murder of an off-Broadway producer"
   • 
     verb
     1. kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.
        "somebody tried to murder Joe"

 

and it is not necessary to troll.

If you've nothing to say. say that.

 

Murder means what its definition means.

 

If I'm trolling report me.

I have things to say I'm not going to stop because you want me to.

 

So if a woman decides to go to a clinic and kill her baby it takes premeditation but it's not technically murder right? Maybe it's murder for hire then since technically she paid to have someone kill her baby for her.

 

It’s also not technically infanticide unless you’re choosing to go by your own made up definitions.


in·fan·ti·cide
/inˈfan(t)əˌsīd/
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noun

1. 1.
   the crime of killing a child within a year of birth.
   "cases of infanticide often involve extreme emotional disturbance"
   • 2.
     a person who kills an infant, especially their own child.

 

So if somebody said their dog was murdered you'd ask them what they mean and then lecture them on which definitions are acceptable?

 

Murder would imply the act of having an abortion is illegal and that a fetus is a person. Neither are true.

 

Statements like that bring around the point that unwanted pregnancy is punishment for a woman daring to have sex.
That may not be your intention but it seems very similar.

Should someone be excluded from the process just because of their orientation or religious belief?

Last I checked, men cannot get pregnant, the largest “punishment” they can get is a venereal disease. Their health and career are usually not adversely impacted from sex.

What issues have you presented on the abortion issue? I have reread every post you have made in this thread and not one that I see makes a foundational argument about disallowing abortion besides you view it as a gift. That is certainly a reason for you not to have or promote abortion but isn’t really a reason why others should be forced by the state to carry to term.

 

Nope, I would accept that a person going through something difficult might use a word incorrectly to describe a thing and try to show them empathy.

 

I love the semantic argument don't you? It allows a woman to kill another human being for a couple hundred bucks totally free of legal consequences.

 

It’s not semantics. You’re using words that, by their very definition, do not correctly describe a medical procedure. You’re obviously doing it so as to make an argument based on emotion instead of fact. It’s fine if you want to do that, but you’ll not convince anyone who doesn’t already agree with you, and I’ll make it a point to call you on it.

 

A zygote is far from a “human being”, it may or may not become one — a fairly significant portion of fertilizations do not result in a child.
The alternative of legal abortion is fascism, being forced by the state under penalty of imprisonment or death to carry to term an unwanted pregnancy is... cruel.

 

You've said nothing.
Please continue to say nothing.
Just use fewer words.

 

Sorry you misinterpret things that way. I just think a little bit of responsibility would be helpful how you get punishment out of that is anyone's guess.

Probably because it is a good point and it's counter your position. That's why people demonize.

Should? No.

this is a straw man. I have not been living on Mars I know men can't get pregnant that wasn't the point I was making you straw man to my argument because you want to avoid the point.

Men are forced to pay child support for 18 years burdening them financially and physically.

1) Responsibility and restraint are the best birth control.

To wit you responded that that's punishment for some reason

2) Men are expected to act responsible or be burdened with child support

To wit you replied with a profundity ignorant strawman staying men can't get pregnant.

You are hand waving away good points because you can't address them honestly.

Notice I'm not making up lies about you saying you just want to murder babies.

I don't need to do that my position is well reasoned.

this was a waste of your time it was never my position to disallow abortion.

If you have no idea what the argument is or you are trying to pidgion hole me to avoid the points I made why are you even posting?

I'm not that easy you should know this.

My position is abortion could be avoided in almost all cases with a little restraint and responsibility. And the people who say that aren't out evil misogynist that want to control women.

you can go looking for where I made a point that had nothing to do with my argument and tell me you can't find it. That's your waste of time.

What in God's name are you talking about?

When did I ever say anything about making abortion illegal do you just play a script in your head and pretend that's what people are saying?

It's like you didn't read a damn word I posted.

It's extremely frustrating to tell you I didn't say things I couldn't say for Christ's sakes read.

 

Why do you respond to me if I'm saying nothing. Is it like chanting? The more you do it the more you convince yourself?

 

It was used correctly in that context.

 

Not if words have meaning.

 

They do have meaning.

If somebody told you their dog was murdered would you ask what they mean?