Roger Stone shows how dangerous the situation really is

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  1. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looks like the man was rail roaded!

    This is kinda banana republic justice . Only some get time for lying to congress. This is incoherent with reason . So must be political
     
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    jussie smollette..

    Orchestrated something FAR worse than anything Roger Stone did. Acted out a fake hate crime, lied to law enforcement, re-directed loads of resources of chicago which was required to investigate the horrific hate crime he fabricated. He risked inciting riots and violent protests in chicago. ALL for personal gain, so he could become a fake civil rights champion and this could lead to more fame, $$.

    i’ve never seen such a scumbag be protected by the left so much, even local liberal, minority prosecutors. The left wants him to get no prison time, not even have to pay a fine. His actions were far worse than anything Roger Stone did but the difference is he’s black, he’s gay and liberal. Roger stone, unfortunately, doesn’t fit these characteristics. EVIL
     
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    While I'd agree that the proposed Stone sentence is harsh, the bolded sentence is pure hyperbole. Not surprising, though, with Trump fans always accusing others of having a victim mentality, while starting 20 (to paraphrase) "Trump fans are victims" threads every day.
     
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    No. I'm arguing that there are two justice systems, one for communists and one for Americans. Until they can be distilled into one system of justice, the DOJ is illegitimate. Ever hear about 'Equal justice under the law'?
     
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    Yes your right andsince Dirty Donald appointed Barr Barr Black sheep all right wingers are being given a near free pass.
     
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    The 'crosshairs' were the logo of the website he shared the image from. It was on all the images that website puts out. The website has never been charged or even investigated for making threats with those images...

    The 'go-between' who Roger 'threatenned', Randy Credico, testified at Roger's trial, in Roger's defense, that he didn't take Roger seriously, neither he nor his dog were ever in any danger, and it was 'just Roger being Roger.'
     
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    Both Stone and Flynn were victims of entrapment , had their feet held to the fire in an attempt to get them to roll on Trump about some fictitious wrong doing and forced them to confess to crimes they did not commit. This KGB and Gestapo tactics and yes absolute evil, clearly indicative of how criminally ruthless the Democrats are. It's high time some of them were treated to the same intimidation and coercion to get them to roll on the Democrat Cabal.
     
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    Do you realize how stupid stuff like this sounds and you folks bitch about Trump on twitter.
     
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    Jury bias - rigged trial. By law, we are all innocent until found guilty after a fair trial.
    Stone was railroaded. Stone has been the target of grotesque political persecution.
     
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    Stone was railroaded. Everyone involved should be investigated. The jury forewoman is a militant left wing activist and cheerleader for the prosecution team.

    "“I want to stand up for Aaron Zelinsky, Adam Jed, Michael Marando, and Jonathan Kravis — the prosecutors on the Roger Stone trial,” Hart wrote in a social media post that was shared with CNN. “It pains me to see the DOJ now interfere with the hard work of the prosecutors. They acted with the utmost intelligence, integrity, and respect for our system of justice.”
    LAW AND CRIME, Lawyers: Roger Stone’s Attorneys Should Have Done a Better Job Vetting Anti-Trump Jury Foreperson, By Jerry Lambe | 1:00 pm, February 13th, 2020.
    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...ve-done-a-better-job-vetting-jury-foreperson/
     
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    He is a convicted felon but at the same time a political bulldog of the GOP, that explains everything.
     
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    You have been proven wrong on several counts yet continue to parrot nonsense. This is a pattern that doesn't argue for credibility.
     
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    You attack someone’s credibility whilst bringing yours instantaneously.
     
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    As I said this is a rail road job.
     
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    Delete
     
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    Stone's defense was actually prevented from dismissing this juror (and others) by the left wing activist judge.

    "Jury selection got off to a slow start, with the judge denying most of the requests by defense lawyers to exclude potential jurors they fear could be biased against Stone."

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    "At the outset of Tuesday's proceedings, Jackson said she would not agree to strike prospective jurors just because they work for the federal government or because they have opinions about Trump.

    That warning did not stop Stone's lawyers from trying to strike the very first one, a woman who once served as a communications director for the White House Office of Management and Budget under Democratic President Barack Obama and whose husband is a Justice Department national security attorney.

    "She said credibly she doesn't have an opinion on this case," Jackson said as she denied the motion."

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...ill-during-jury-selection-for-trial/23853891/
     
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    Violent crimes are not the worst form of crimes. I’d argue tax evasion, wire fraud, insider trading, and others, are just as bad if not in some respects worst
     
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    Actually, I’m a “lefty” and believe sentencing guide lines are far too light for white collar criminals like Stone.

    White collar crime is not victimless: these despicable losers set out to rape communities.
     
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    so, every career politician should be locked up & throw away the keys...

    interesting
     
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    Dude...he was CONVICTED by a jury...of

    Witness tampering
    Obstruction of Justice
    Lying to Congress
     
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    How can you possibly have a problem with that?

    Trump and Barr in an UNPRECEDENTED outrage...interjected themselves in a judicial proceeding to help a Trump friend...and now attack a private citizen

    Are you kidding?
     
  22. Mike12

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    clearly and any rational human being can see this, 9 years is WAY over the top, they did this because stone was dismissive of the process and arrogant. These prosecutors were clearly out of line... Barr should be intervening, 9 years is ridiculous... an outrage. Stone just lied about something which didn’t even matter. Why aren’t comey, mccabe in jail? They have been caught lying about serious matters.

    you think lying about something should get 9 years? More than the average rapist gets? Do you realize what rape is?

    This is scary, nazi like... this feels like when nazis persecuted jews. You want to protect rapists, murderers, drug dealers as long as they are poor, minorities, liberals. Rich trump supporters? Jail then for decades, just for lying. This is scary, EVIL, shows the true colors of many on the progressive left today. You defend Jussie Smollette who fabricated a vicious hate crime and lied to law enforcement, risking inciting riots and re-directing valuable resources of chicago. You all think he should get no jail time yet his actions were way worse than roger stone’s but he’s black, gay and liberal so he can get away with it. Jussie could go rape a white woman and you would protect him ‘give him a chance, he is remorseful, don’t target minorities’. Disgusting..
     
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    A jury his defense was prevented from challenging, as per common practice. The judge overruled their moves to strike jurors for bias during preliminary examination. Stone was convicted by a jury of Obama admins and DNC Senatorial candidates, the foreman of which was on record tweeting how Trump supporters are the KKK...
     
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    Much of what passes for the progressive "left" has always been enthusiastic about killing their opposition or railroading them into prison always forgetting how that strategy has been used against them.

    "Alan Dershowitz

    @AlanDersh
    All civil libertarians who care about non partisan justice should support a new trial for Roger Stone based on this new information about a biased juror. Let’s hear from real, non partisan, civil libertarians. https://www.foxnews.com/media/judge-napolitano-roger-stone-new-trial-juror-tweets.amp

    Judge Napolitano: Roger Stone should get new trial in light of juror's anti-Trump tweets
    Judge Andrew Napolitano said on Thursday that former Trump adviser Roger Stone deserves a new trial in light of resurfaced tweets that indicate partisanship and “inherent bias” from a jury member...
    foxnews.com
    LAW AND CRIME, Lawyers: Roger Stone’s Attorneys Should Have Done a Better Job Vetting Anti-Trump Jury Foreperson, By Jerry Lambe | 1:00 pm, February 13th, 2020.
    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...ve-done-a-better-job-vetting-jury-foreperson/"
     
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    that is their tactics not strategy
     
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