Ron Paul: Don't Entrust Your Financial Future to Obama's Bankrupt Bureaucrats!

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd4vXvPf2h8&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]Ron Paul: Don't Entrust Your Financial Future to Obama's Bankrupt Bureaucrats! - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    The U.S. federal Government keeps getting bigger and bigger.
     
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    Who (what other politicians) besides Ron Paul, is saying the things he is saying?

    And how could his ideas be improved upon (to such a degree), that most Americans would support him or his ideas?

    I know that our present money-corrupted (but not hopeless) system isn't THE answer; but where are the others (besides Paul) who can help bring about reasonable reforms?
     
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    Other then his son, I know of no other currently in Congress/the Senate.

    But I do not pretend to know all those involved in those 'houses'.
     
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    That would be ALL the Republican Candidates now in the race AND those that have dropped out. Paul says it too and I agree with him. But to claim that Paul and Paul alone is saying that, one would have to be wearing blinders and ear plugs.
    Paul is right,,,
    So are ALL the other Republican candidates
     
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    Not everyone is convinced Paul is capable of doing what he says. While in concept it's a good idea, what is the plan behind the idea? I like some of what Paul says, but I don't take him body and soul...some of his ideas are unworkable unles we isolate ourselves, which in part isn't a bad concept, other than in the area of manufacturing.
     
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    Federal Job have gone down in the 3 years of this Administration. I sure as hell didn't in Bush's 8 years, and no one complained. :-D

    Move along ... Next ... excuse .... :mrgreen:
     
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    So spending has gone down in the last 3 years?

    Interesting...that's not what I heard.


    And btw...what excuse are you referring to?
     
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    Which other candidate pledges to cut the deficit the first year?
     
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    Check out Paul's portfolio...

    Twenty-one percent of his $2.4 to $5.5 million was in real estate, 14 percent in cash. He owns no bonds. Only 0.1 percent is invested in stocks, and Paul bought these "short," betting the price will plunge. Every other nickel is sunk into gold and silver mining companies.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan208.html
     
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    Let’s look at the Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

    Under Bush, private employment shrank by 673,000 jobs, federal employment grew by 50,000 jobs, and government employment grew by 1,753,000 jobs.

    Under Obama, the private sector has shed some 2.9 million jobs while the federal government has grown by 40,000 (after growing massively, the federal workforce shrank throughout the summer). Total government jobs, however, shrank by 357,000 jobs, mainly because of cuts at the state and local levels. We can’t really compare these numbers, because we have eight years of Bush data and only two years of Obama data. Overall, most of the net jobs created under Bush were created in the government; many private sector jobs have been destroyed under Obama; and the number of government jobs has decreased, even though federal employment has grown.

    End result...Bush=Bad...Obama=Bad...we need a (real) change
     
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    hmm..I don't know that real estate nor even gold/silver are currently too great of an investment, but that is interesting.
     
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    What was the word I used??????? ALL.

    You certainly have the right to believe Paul and not believe the others. You do not have the right to claim that they are not saying the same or similar things as Paul because you believe him and not them.

    2 of the other candidates, have actual accomplishments of shrinking budgets and deficits. One turned a state deficit in a surplus and another turned a national budget into a surplus. Paul has talked, and talked, and talked, and talked.

    Those other 2 have some baggage to drag along. Paul's baggage is that he talks a good government but has never accomplished any government changes.

    But I don't erroneously claim he isn't saying the same as the other candidates just because I believe him least of all. Sorry, all except the idiot obama.
     
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    Knowing that the banking institution worldwide is a giant Ponzi scheme, gold, silver or anything that people consider precious is better than paper, if there is something of value you can trade that for. We currently rely on paper money, but it may not be very long before that changes when the Euro Dollar collapses.
     
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    Real estate and gold are two things humans can't reproduce (except those palm tree shaped islands in Dubai... but they're sinking, so they don't count). They're ALWAYS good investments, especially when the economy is going to crash... again.
     
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    Well things that can't be reproduced are grounds for certain special laws, I'd say; that's another way of saying that you can't produce or improve them, and I think private property applies to things that you produced or improved. Gold is improved when you locate it and transport it to be sold, but land is not improved simply by occupying it. Same with air.

    Have you heard of geoism?
     
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    Honestly, when you mentioned "geoism" I had a knee jerk reaction and thought "globalism." I'm not familiar with this philosophy but, after googling the subject, it seems to deserve some scrutiny.
     
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    I disagree , I distrust republicans as much as democrats
     
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    I will ask again - which candidate (other then Paul) pledges to reduce the deficit in the first year?

    Where is a link to this promise?

    And is this promise fluid or concrete?


    And which candidate (other then Paul) has pledged to cut 1 trillion in spending his first year in office?
     
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    Any "pledge" is useless unless he has the full support of congress. Cut to what effect? Cut food from the mouth of a little old lady? Cut it from the military? Cut it from Infrastructure? Cut from the space program...oh wait, Obama shelved that program. How about cutting the IRS? Now that would be a good move. If we had a National sales tax we wouldn't need them any more...will he do that?
     
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    With me its 100% distrust Dems, 98% distrust Republicans. I believe we must cut the deficits DEEPLY. Will any politician do what they ALL say? But they all say it, including Paul, all the other Republican candidates AND obama. Will any do it? Don't guess that Paul would since he's NEVER done anything that he says. Not that any of the others have a record a helluva lot better. Except obama, he is all lie. He promised to be transparent, he is, he lies all the time now.
     
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    Yep, we can see right through him!
     
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