Ron Paul is more than a President...

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  1. jaktober

    jaktober Member

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    Let's put aside from that fact that according to legal precedent set by the RNC's own lawyers in 2008 every delegate going to the National Convention is free to vote for whomever they wish on the first ballot. Let's forget that Paul is sending a bunch of delegates, and that when he spoke at the Minnesota convention Romney supporters where throwing away their signs as they left.

    Forget that it's really about the convention.

    And let's look at what Ron Paul has done, and what the potential of this movement is.

    First, what ever the outcome of the convention, if Obama is reelected, Rand Paul will be a likely front-runner in 2016.

    Second, many of those that have trained on the campaign are already working on local and state elections.

    Some people are planning on going back to the Democratic Party or third-party from which they came.

    It is possible that we may have a "Peace and Freedom" candidate running strong in the 2016 Democratic Primary.

    Ron Paul has started a new Federalist movement that transcends partisan barriers.

    Ron Paul has already won a seat much higher than President...
     
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    There are surely lasting effects already from Ron Paul, no matter the outcome of his candidacy. For now, though, I'd rather focus on the strength we can muster for Tampa. This is not over so declaring small victories while the big prize is not out of reach is a bit defeatist, IMO. We both know it's a really long shot, but strange things have happened already. I'm not yet ready to turn away from the original goal.

    I would disagree with one point of your post. I would say that RP is leading an anti-federalist movement rather than a federalist one.
     
  3. MnBillyBoy

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    Ron Paul will be remembered for NOTHING after Romney destroys Obama this fall.
    And I left my county caucus in disgust also..In MN it was a rigged deal..

    How can a guy who loses every state win...?

    BACKROOM deals...

    Just the kind they said they hated.
     
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    Backroom deals??? LMAO!!

    Why would anyone make a backroom deal with someone that has 'no chance of winning'? You're delusional. Next thing we know you'll be on here blaming RP for your candidate's sorry showing vs Obama. Don't blame us....you did this to yourselves. The GOP had it's chance but is intent on discarding the best candidate in favor of the Goldman-Sachs choice.

    What most voters will realize is that there's really no difference between Obama and Romney. So why change when they're both the same? Only the base will come out to vote for Romney and that won't get it done!

    Romney will be remembered as the Michael Dukakis of the GOP after Obama settles in for another 4 years.
     
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    People turned to the democrats and Obama in droves in 2008 after "W". Then they turned to the Republican party in 2010 in droves after 2 years of Obama. Maybe after Romney they will get a clue to stop looking for "W" like politicians.
     
  6. jaktober

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    The beginning of my post explained that Paul is still in for the Convention. The rest of my post was more to remind supporters to be able to see past the Convention, and the Election. Not to feel any sort of loss if Paul doesn't get Nominated at the Convention somehow.

    As far as Federalist vs. Anti-Federalist. In many places I'd agree, that Paul's platform feels more Anti-Federalist, but Federalist were the ones that drafted the Constitution.
     
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    Oh, I'm not nit-picking. I'm in it for the long haul, too. I just want to keep my focus until after Tampa. No doubt this movement will not go away no matter the result of the Convention.

    OK...now I'm gonna nit-pick LOL. It was the Anti-Federalists that insisted on the Bill of Rights. Lord only knows where we would be now had those rights not been enumerated.
     
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    Wooger
    How can anybody who lost by 50,000 votes be the winner ?

    When you can explain that one little tiny point ..you may get a mini pizza slice..about 5%
     
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    I have no idea what you are referring to. My first thought is Minnesota, but that can't be so. Ron Paul beat Mitt Romney by over 5,000 votes in the caucus.

    What state are you talking about?
     
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    So for all this time Ron Paul has been raising money and organizing volunteers to help him seek a demotion?
     
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    ron paul barely even got 6% of the vote in louisiana's primary election

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    santorum got 44.95% of the vote in minnesota presidential preference ballot, ron paul got 27.15%
     
  13. 9/11 was an inside job

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    excellent post,the problem is though that it appears Rand Paul has been a sell out to his dad.I liked him until recently when he announced that people living on social security need to give back 40% of their earnings.It appears that he has been compromsed by the establishment.when you get that high up as a senator,if you want to stay in office,you become corrupt.This is just right now,no telling what he will happen and he all he will say and do four years from now.Remember,power corrupts.
     

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