Ron Paul Nevada Election Result Is Likely Fraudulent

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  1. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    Or post the video of Ron Paul blaming America for 9/11 and they flip as if you ran over their mother
     
  2. Krypt

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    Here are specifics for you....with dates and source cited..

     
  3. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    Now the Blame America card is pulled from the bottom of the deck and played in desperation
     
  4. The12thMan

    The12thMan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Folks. This is an official warning to get back on topic and stop making personal comments.
     
  5. Krypt

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    So can you prove the facts that I posted wrong?
     
  6. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    You clearly are blaming America first like your boss is

    I have proven what Paul said beyond any doubt. Guess what? Most voters agree with me which is part of the reason Paul is getting his old a** kicked in primary after primary

    He might as well get out now, save moeny, and go back to the home and play Bingo
     
  7. Krypt

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    I posted facts about the cause of 9/11 for you to debate and prove false. It's apparent you can't.
     
  8. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    Are thoise "facts" from the same source as the "army of young voters" that are backing Paul (but forget to show up at the polls) :love:
     
  9. Krypt

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    You just proved that you didn't even bother to read what I had posted that shows clear dates and sources cited. You aren't here to debate. All you do is insult Paul supporters and make no attempt at trying to debate. That is childish. I'm done with you.
     
  10. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    Promise?

    I hope so
     
  11. The XL

    The XL Well-Known Member

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    You haven't scared anyone away. Seriously, it's your own job to pay attention and be informed. A simple google search would have answered your own questions.

    http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/did-blowback-cause-911/Content?oid=1111514

    You can search google to your hearts content on those issues and any other ones to further your knowledge.

    We can't be murdering innocents, and (*)(*)(*)(*)ing around with sovereign nations and expect nothing to happen. There were many victims on 9/11. My father died due to 9/11 related illness 3 years ago, but I have the common sense and the knowledge to realize why. It was no one who dieds fault, it was our idiotic government and their foreign policy.

    Look at what were doing to Iran now, with the sanctions, threats of war, assassinating scientists, etc. You don't think that could cause blowback? You can bet your ass that if they did that (*)(*)(*)(*) to us, we'd more than 9/11 there ass. Use your brain for Gods sake......
     
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  12. NoPartyAffiliation

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    So let's see. We are to blame for 9/11 because:

    1. Iraq was forced to invade Kuwait, thereby bringing upon themselves the wrath of NATO and subsequent sanctions (which I thought were extreme btw but we could have just you know, killed them). Shall we ask AQ's permission to do something if the Soviets roll into France?
    2. We have an alliance with Israel. Okay so then I guess what we SHOULD do is form an alliance with someone else! Who will AQ allow us to be friends with? Can we keep Australia if we say pretty please? I really like Australia!
    3. We um, let's see. Well we were invited by the government of Saudi Arabia to go there. Crap. Now we can't even do business with or go places without the permission of AQ. Okay.... Go ask them where we're allowed to go and I'll let our government know.

    Hmmm. Lemme think. Nah, you know what? I'm thinking we should be allowed to choose whatever allies we want. Do business with whom we want. And if some azzhole invades a country where we have our interests, and the entire UN agrees that this is ofically deemed a "No no", then what the heck. Let's kick their butts out.
    So fcuk AQ and anyone who wants to tell us differently. But then I'm one of those old fashioned "Let's not have foreign terrorists run our country" types.

    So where exactly are we to blame?
     
  13. mclumber1

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    Let's say later this year China starts strategic bombing of weapons factories in Georgia, California, and Texas. Their justification for this aggression is that those weapons the Americans were building and stockpiling could have been used on China. They've also put sanctions on America. China also gets permission from Mexico and Canada to base troops and aircraft in those countries to keep check on America. Over the course of the next decade, the sanctions continue, as well as the bombings. Some civilians have died. The American government has done practically nothing to stop the harassment by the Chinese military.

    Red States Rule, furious at his own government's lack of retaliation, conspires with a group of other forum members and is able to set off a series of car bombs in Beijing, killing several hundred Chinese citizens.
     
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    First, let me say I'm very, very sorry about your father.

    As far as your points, I disagree. An obscure article from years ago in a small paper op-ed, does not evidence make.
    Nor does your arrogant assumption that anyone having differing opinions isn't informed or "using their brain".
    FYI I've looked into this and watched several of the tapes of OBL. At least the other Ron Paulite got closer to reality.
    The focus of OBL's ire seemed to be about the fact that we had "stained the sand of Saudi Arabia", with our support of Israel being a "Yeah and that too!".
    Sorry, not our fault.

    So while I agree that we have had serious foreign policy errs, the contention that AQ attacked us here, in Libya, The USS Cole, Mumbai (I'm sorry the Indians did WHAT exactly to them?) and so on for reasons other than that they are a bunch of absolute sociopaths, doesn't fly with me at all.

    And as far as Iran, I think it's actually refreshing to see us do something other than rush in to attack.
    As far as "threats of war", are you referring to Iran declaring they would "wipe Israel off the map" or when they said "Israel is a cancer that will be removed"?
    Oh, hold it. Forgot. Ron Paul guy. Only our enemies are allowed to threaten. Got it.
     
  15. Roelath

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    So you believe that the US Foreign Policy has no repercussions at all?
     
  16. NoPartyAffiliation

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    So you believe anyone disagreeing with you must have the extreme opposite belief in every way?

    Yeah right. Nothing we've ever done has ever had a repercussions.
     
  17. mclumber1

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    Paul's argument is not that it is our fault (as some of you claim), but that our actions in the middle east and elsewhere have repercussions, such as the 9/11 attacks.
     
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    Basically your analogy is bs and not even close. But I get it. As long as we get permission from every whackjob in the world, we can sell planes and such. Um yeah, that's reasonable...
     
  19. Krypt

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    I understand your aspect of not agreeing what they do. I don't either.

    I respect you for actually taking the time to look into it unlike others that wish to bury their head into the sand. It's important that we, as Americans, know what our Government is doing because as you can tell with 9/11, we paid the price for the foolish way things there were handled. They had the information before it happened. They led us to believe it was a non-threat. When it happened, what was the response? "They attacked us because of our freedoms".

    I find it more sick that our Government wouldn't come forth and own up to a mistake that cost thousands of Americans their lives...
     
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    Well like I said, we disagree but you show an unusual level of class and civility and if nothing else, that is to be commended.
     
  21. Roelath

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    It was a general question to understand whether or not you believe actions have reactions to them.
     
  22. red states rule

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    These two guys spend more time talking up Ron Paul without their anti Paul crusade than his own supporters. Too funny
     
  24. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    What suppoters? Based on the election results so far the Ron Paul supporters can hold their meetings in a Hall of Mirrors
     
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    Could you please show where in the video Ron Paul said we deserved 911?
     

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