This is an excellent Yale Daily News op-ed piece which does an terrific job of describing the irrationality of a Ron Paul presidency. http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2012/jan/13/stern-ron-pauls-america/
Pauls domestic policy of an America returning to the roots of Randian "rational self interest" holds much appeal for Conservatives. It also holds much appeal to racists, conspiracy theorists, the terminally ignorant and the drug addled and addicted who hate being forced by courts to attend drug rehabilitation classes and would rather be able to go to a corner and store and buy their heroin. Randian "rational self interest" does not however extend to the sphere of foreign policy and the globe. Free trade will not prevent Iran, or the large arab world, from engaging in a wholly irrational war against Israel. Randian "rational self interest" will not prevent Putin from exploiting opportunities to expand Russia's hold, economically or militarily over the former Soviet Republics who have no wish to return to the days of Catherine the Great. Randian "rational self interest" will not prevent some future Hitler from rising, or the need for a coalition of nations to stop that rise before it engulfs the world in flames. Free trade will not prevent China from attempting to intimidate, bully and confiscate valuable ocean resources from its tiny Asian neighbors. Free trade will not stop the Arabs & Persians from attempting to intimidate, bully and confiscate valuable oil land from the Kurds. All of these sorts of crises will need US input, and US power in order to resolve and standing around pretending that China can be the world's cop instead of the USA is all fine for the isolationists.. but they refuse to answer the question. What happens when China tries to police us?
I sort of give my arguments of support for Romney and Paul in another thread. Our economy is in a terrible mess..The leadership is to blame. Not Paul or Bain.
From the 'excellent' Yale op-ed piece. Since the Dept. of Education was created in the 1979, it would have been hard for it to have done much in the 1960's. Not to mention that the Civil Rights Act was an act of Congress and integration was enforced by the AG's authority to file lawsuits. The ignorance of this 'excellent' op-ed piece shows exactly what is wrong with our education system and is a great argument FOR abolishing the Dept. of Education. Thread FAIL.
Owned. The Fed Dept. of Education is doing an excellent job with our children, aren't they? They're doing a good job preparing our children for a Soviet-style planned economic system and social engineering. Read about what they are doing to our educational system from someone who knows what she's talking about. She was Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department of Education, during the first Reagan Administration http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs/Death%20of%20FreeWill_12_11_2010.pdf
Have mercy, we would have to be responsible for ourselves if Paul were president. No, no, no. That would be a disaster. You sheep. And I am 40 years beyond being a college student.
Someone should send that 'excellent' op-ed piece to the author's parents so they can see exactly what they are spending $38,000+ a year on. http://www.a2zcolleges.com/tuition.asp?ID=1617
Jason Bourne, it's funny how you're citing a liberal rag as a credible source. Your left wing-ness becomes more apparent with every post. Why don't you just come out and say that you're going to vote for Obama? Besides, the piece you linked to is riddled with factual errors. This is wrong. Paul's interpretation if the Constitution is completely reasonable and necessary. If the author disagrees with Paul's interpretation, he can feel free to write his Congressman and Senator to introduce amendments to the Constitution. Wrong. The federal government can do anything that the Constitution specifies it can do. Dept of Education didn't exist until 1979. Fail. 14th amendment to the Constitution would be interpreted as prohibiting segregation in public schools. Fail. This assumes that there is no alternative other than taxpayers being forced to provide healthcare for illegal immigrants. I don't believe that for once second. The author's attempts to take the moral high ground is a gross misrepresentation of Paul's position. Fail. The federal government's attempts to better our lives outside of the bounds of the Constitution is unnecessary and illegal. The author assumes that since Paul opposes this being done at the Federal level, tha the opposes it being done at the state level as well. This is false. This misunderstanding of Paul's positions shows how he is pushing disinformation in an attempt to smear Paul. Fail. The author's conclusions show just how disconnected from reality he is. It has very little to do with legalizing pot or student loans. It's because young people don't get their information from the TV like older folks do. They haven't been programmed by the establishment as much as previous generations have. They are waking up to the fact that America has been under control by the same political party (pretending to be 2 parties) for the last 100 years and that it is collapsing. They recognize the fact that Paul supports real freedom, which is an idea that appeals to young people. And by the way, all you had to do was read some of the comments below the article. It was completely debunked by people who are capable of rational thought.
Yes the article you linked from a College Freshman without basic knowledge of history concerning his own discussion was read. Good for you. Did you happen to read the comment section for that article? Most called him a fool. And you are using this fool as your evidence. Do you know what that makes you?
This is like the 80th Neocon thread about Ron Paul. Question: If nobody has bought your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) propaganda in the first thirsty threads or so, what's the point with the redundancy? Oh wait, I know. If you sheep repeat your stupidity enough, you'll even begin to believe it.
I would just like say what Obama's vision of America is. It is one in which its citizens can be detained now indefinately without trail. It is one where those who don't have health insurance can now be penalized by the government. It is a place where government bends over backwards to offer niave students an ever escalating garunteed debt to go to college, only to find out that when they graduate there are no jobs with a big pile of debt they can never run from!! So instead of addressing the problem of constantly rising tuition costs, they garuntee them loans so there is no real reason for universities to reign in their costs. You know, kinda like medical insurance. Of course, the kick back government gets are dutiful professors to teach their youth about the evils of capitalism and the need for big government. So the youth of today are finally getting it.....the hard way as they go look for jobs and/or college loans. It just strikes me hilarious that the new hip guy in town is a 70 something old fart who is whiter than a sheet. What can I say other than......deal with it!!
That's funny, the pro-Paul threads outnumber the anti-paul threads at least 2 or 3 to 1. Who is the one repeating the same mantra?
I did. Let me know if you'd like to engage in an intelligent discussion about the OP instead of trying to turn this thread into another "stop picking on poor Ron Paul" hissy fit.
That's all you got, huh? You provided somebody else's opinion, and went about as if it was factual or relevant. Congrats, you accomplished nothing.
That opinion is entirely relevant. It's accuracy is open to discussion and the reason why I started this thread. Once again, would you care to have an intelligent and civil discussion about the opinion posted in the OP?
Really? What's funny is that your pal, and fellow neocon has created at least eleven threads concerning Ron Paul. How many have you created? You neocons are afraid of becoming relics, I understand this. Guess what? Tough (*)(*)(*)(*). Your ilk have highjacked this county for way too long, it's coming too an end.
So you want to pick on Ron Paul without any responses saying that rebuttals are not welcome? Typical liberal response. Ok then, just put some ear plugs in and begin talking to yourself I suppose.
It is very true that big-government liberals don't like Ron Paul's plans. You can't please all of the socialists all of the time. *shrug* What really intrigues me is that you took the time to post this "excellent" article. I had no idea you were a liberal until now. I'll have to make a note of that.
It stands as a two bit hatchet job written by some brain dead freshman at Branford college.......who has barely had time to unlatch from his mother's teet much less form rational political opinions in his adult life. You want to talk about the Fears of a President Ron Paul...... when the majority of Americans live in Fear of the bloated all controlling all powerful Nanny State Government that Dr. Paul wants to abolish. . . .
Your OP was blown out of the water on the first page. To have an intelligent discussion about something moronic is what you're asking. Sorry, no can do.
Education: Our schools are much more efficient and effective since they've been taken over by the federal government, right? I bet every school south of the Mason-Dixon will immediately kick out all minority students if our federal government were to withdraw their unconstitutional control. Medicine: All those illegal aliens would surely die if our federal government stopped forcing our doctors to save their lives. Also, I bet the price of medical care would ridiculously inflate if Ron Paul got to demolish all the efficiency promoting mandates of the federal government. I mean come on, how much can a man know about medicare after he's only practiced medicine for 50 years; before and after the federal takeover.