Roy Moore won't go away.

The goal is to keep Moore and his ilk out of office. Don't think for a minute it's over. I'd think his begging for more money would indicate that. It's hard to tell though since he's a grifter by nature.

 

I did not use either of these words in my posts: pedophilia, creations. I will ignore them. I am not looking for the only opportunity for discussion. I am looking for the most visible.

 

Drawing attention to his appeal may only facilitate his exploiting his targeted audience.

It is their right to be hustled.

 

Did Moore lose to a republican? Isn't a States statute? Keep spinning. This HAS to be a federal statute. Sanctuary laws that defy federal statutes ... ummm? Disingenuous deflection.

 

That battle was fought, and won. And Roy begging for alms isn't a priority for me either. You probably should have smeared a few more GOPers who thinks Roys public execution is a little premature ... while you still had my interest.

 

Half of this I don't even understand. Moore lost to a Democrat not a republican. I don't know what 'isn't a states statute?' means. Currently statutes controlling age of consent for marriage are written at a state level, but the proposal we were all discussing addressed the need for a federal standard which involves the republican controlled Congress and the executive. Not sure why you are bringing up sanctuary cities at all, but if you think there is some comparison between these issues, you will have to describe it. My guess is that you want to draw a parallel based on the premise that there is no distinction between asking a state to enforce federal immigration laws, and setting national standards on contracts that will need to be recognized across state borders consistent with the Congressional duties under the interstate commerce clause. but I am just guessing.

 

Not even Roy Moore would understand the attempts at digression from his antics: 1) pleading for money, and 2) endorsing candidates of his ilk.

Clearly, he would wish that both be brought to the attention of the American public.

 

He's just trying to get some money in while he can. My guess is that his non-profit isn't pulling in as much cash as it once did, so he's trying to get the cash to flow again. The man's 71 years old. He really can't run again.

 

What national question? Do you mean age of consent and/or marriage? Congress is not allowed to pass laws on those issues. They are up to the states.

 

The feds are not allowed to get involved in marriage/age of consent issues. It's not in their constitutional power to.

 

Roy Moore is politically dead. He has no chance of winning a state or federal level election, and little chance of winning a local election. he's 71 years old. This senate seat was his last chance politically (and thankfully he didn't succeed).

 

The feds cannot deal with marriage. It's a state thing, and honestly, what's the big deal? Why the need for that?

 

Read up on the Mann Act, Or federal Bigamy laws used most obviously against Mormons. Federal regulations of sex are currently out of favor, but that has not always been true.

 

You are correct that Congress normally is 'hands off' but it has in fact regulated marriage without any court disputing its authority.

1862 July 8, Morrill Anti-Bigamy Law, signed by Abraham Lincoln.

• First basic federal legislation by the Congress of the United States that was designed "to punish and prevent the practice of polygamy in the Territories of the United States".
• Bigamy punishable by a $500 fine and imprisonment not exceeding five years.
• All acts passed by the Legislative Assembly of the Territory of Utah "pertaining to polygamy and spiritual marriage" were annulled.
• A limit of $50,000 of real property that a religious or charitable organization could hold in a territory of the United States.
• Any amount exceeding the value of $50,000 was to be forfeited and escheated to the United States.
• No officers were appointed to enforce the law and no funds for enforcement were allotted.
• Although President Lincoln had signed the bill, he adopted the policy of leaving the Mormons alone. When T. B. H. Stenhouse, then a Mormon in good standing, asked the president what course he intended to pursue with reference to the Mormons, Lincoln replied, "Stenhouse, when I was a boy on the farm in Illinois there was a great deal of timber on the farms which we had to clear away. Occasionally we would come to a log which had fallen down. It was too hard to split, too wet to burn and too heavy to move, so we plowed around it. That's what I intend to do with the Mormons. You go back and tell Brigham Young that if he will let me alone, I will let him alone." (Quoted in Gustive 0. Larson, The "Americanization" of Utah for Statehood, San Marino, California: Huntington Library, 1971, p. 60.)

1866 Wade bill had provisions to diminish the power of local Government. (Essentials in Church History, by Joseph Fielding Smith, 22nd Editions enlarged, 25th Edition, 1972 Published by the Deseret book Company for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, p. 442.)

DOMA was not held unconstitutional because Congress wrote it. ​

In fact DOMA had three sections of which only one was declared unconstitutional and that was based on the due process clause of the fifth amendment , not on any federalist basis.

Think about it. Civil marriage is a contract that must be honored across state lines and likewise divorce settlements are desolutions of a contract across state line.

 

See post # 39.

 

The Mann act and white slavery acts while not specifically about marriage also were federal regulations of sexual behavior.

 

Regardless it's not constitutional. Yes, it may have passed, but it wouldn't have passed constitutional scrutiny if it had been litigated. The Mormons decided to leave, and then give up polygamy instead.

 

I am sure you have some appellate court rulings to base this view on...

 

Just based on the reading of the Constitution in everyday language. There are many things allowed in this country that are very unconstitutional.

 

That's what I thought. You got nothing.

 

Its; as much as you've shown.