Ruble down 30% -- Trump calls Putin very smart and savvy

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  1. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    :) BRAVO!!!! :)
     
  2. Pixie

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    Back to the OP, the problem with propaganda is that it is dissected into the pieces you need to defend your own POV.
    Anyway it looks as if Putin isn't as clever as Trump thought. Just brutal. I suppose that is easy to see and impresses the less than subtle.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So- you're saying your career has been one of telling, teaching- but you are not listening or learning here. I'm probably older than you, and what I've learned has been by first hand involvement, not the women's magazines you seem familiar with, or information taken from people who think they are educated because they repeat information taken from other people who say they are educated. What's more- the validity of my belief is measured by results, not the approval of peers in a system. Every person tends to tell themselves they have tried hard, and want credit for whatever they did despite the fact that failed to succeed. If you are unable to recognize that failure, or tell yourself that it is the best that can be done- I can't give you credit for teaching anything of value. From time to time, I look at the statistics that tell us how well our young people are doing, how effectively we educate them. It's not reassuring, not even complimentary.

    While it's true that this subject has produced a vast history of information in a multitude of forms- it's also true that most of it is misrepresented, ineffective in the long run and has not produced and consistency of success. Of course you object; you want to feel that your search of these things and your conclusions are totally adequate and valid. So does everybody else who has read a hundred self-help books or gone to hear Tony Robbins, or- pursued a degree in psychology trying to figure life out. They all- without exception- want the solution to life to fit neatly into what they already believe, and things that do not are rejected automatically. That is their handicap, and they haven't a clue of it. So those who suggest it are maligned in various forms- arrogant, simplistic, unsympathetic. And age doesn't mean you have gained ground in the understanding- millions of people repeat the same approach all their lives, expecting that someday it will work. It never does.

    I've taught a wide variety of people. The local school district hired me to spend a day doing classes as part of the continuing teacher education process in our secondary schools, with the goal of giving teachers a greater skill at understanding where students were at in their heads. Thus- teaching teachers, like you. I also did volunteer classes for a drug rehab program, called Parallax. Addicts in recovery, trying to learn how to cope with the life challenges that helped make them addicts in the first place. Now one would think that the teachers would be the most in tune with these needs- but it was just the opposite. The teachers already gave themselves credit for knowing most everything; they were there at best to pick up a tool or two- at minimum, to meet the requirement to attend. The recovering addicts on the other hand came from a life changing experience; that of hitting bottom so hard that it fractured everything they had ever believed and lived by. They were rebuilding the entire machine from the ground up, so the garbage most people keep in their heads was already off the table. While the teachers asked few questions, the addicts were ravenous. What surprised me most was that we would be on a subject- and they were voicing answers to questions that had not yet been asked; the ability to grasp the points so quickly was incredible. The biggest challenge of learning this is mostly getting past what society and well-meaning people have dumped in your heads. Once that is no longer accepted without question, anything is possible.

    All people are limited by what they already believe they know- and they usually know too much, because most of it is superficial as well as flawed- but they take it as beyond question. IF this were not true, we would be vastly better than we are, a vastly healthier society and species. Teaching what I have taught is not therapy, nor is it a process of just storing what someone else calls knowledge. The process is guidance. Showing a path- but that path is only beneficial if the person chooses to take it. To do that requires that you get off the path you are on... change objectives, rewrite your value system, shift the basis of your decisions to a new set of principles- that have always existed everywhere but in your mind. And note that I did not choose or invent what I teach, I only learned to recognize fundamental principles that are in evidence everyday- and created by nature, not man. What offends those exposed to these ideas is that it invalidates a good part of what they think they know. It's hard to take that as gaining in understanding- and usually will be seen as an invalidation of the person- a put down. People limit themselves.

    Teachers can only effectively teach what they genuinely know and understand. Teaching what they think they know may look similar- but what it really amounts to is making the challenge more difficult for their students by putting more on the table, and usually telling us it's importance is fundamental. While I highly respect teachers in general, it is effective teachers that make the difference- the rest only add to the confusion if they divert from the fundamentals of their chosen subject. You say you teach literature. I teach how to live successfully- by your own definitions of it. You have ten thousand references, most of which don't agree with the others. . I have three- which are all in agreement, work together and are invariably accurate. I spent 18 years learning them, and more than 40 living successfully by them. I understand my subject very, very well. It's unfortunate you feel offended by that; it is never meant to be offensive, but that is your choice, not mine.
     
  4. Quantum Nerd

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    Yep, Russian stock market is still closed. Wonder why?? Could it be that it would drop like a rock, if reopened, and Putin knows this.

    Now, people complain about what Brandon is supposedly "doing" to the US economy. They have NO idea how it must be as Russian, who see their jobs endangered, their life savings taking a plunge, their country becoming an international pariah, and all for what? Because Putin has a small di%k, and needs to big himself up.

    But, Putin is smart and savvy, right? I bet Trump would want to take back those words. Comparatively, Brandon actually looks like a genius.
     
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    Jeez your students must have been super bored.
    BTW clearly if you think teaching is telling, you shouldn't discuss it. You have no idea what teaching is. You are confusing it with preaching...your forte.
    Don't bother replying. I won't be reading it.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good for you. No sense reading things you can't or won't understand.
     
  7. Pixie

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    Let me get this as close to your arrogance as possible.
    NOTHING you have written is profound, new, or revealing of any truth not learned by an adolescent.
    You have nothing to impart. You know nothing I have not known for a long time but frankly wouldn't dream if lecturing someone else about on the assumption that they didn't know it either.
    However just before I put you on ignore I would point out that "spiritgide", spelled correctly, has a "u" in it.
    I guess some need a crook to support them on their journey through life.
    I certainly don't need yours.
     
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    Today, Russia started paying maturing dollar-denominated bonds in rubles, instead of dollars.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/11/investing/russia-default-sp/index.html

    This is effectively a default on its foreign debt. Putin is smart, right Mr. Trump? I wonder why Trump is not commenting about this in his usual anti-American rallies.

    It seems like the economic sanctions are working. Now, one could say, in typical Trumper fashion "Biden did this". Of course, the truth is, this was a concerted international effort to bring Putin to his knees. Biden is just one part of the puzzle. Let's hope that the coalition holds and the pressure from the sanctions are kept up. Unfortunately, even this is a small victory, the battle is far from over.

    In another piece of bad news for Putin, the Russian army seems to be unable to make any inroads on Kiev. Seems like Putin's military is more of a paper tiger. Not a good look for Putin. So, is Putin really smart? if he was smart, he would have spared his countrymen all of this destruction of their livelihoods.
     
  9. ShadowX

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    Stop listening to your cnn talking heads. It’s not default it is SELECTIVE default. Default normally occurs because an entity is not capable of paying their bills due to financial mismanagement or what have you.

    But that’s not the case here. Russia is in a SELECTIVE default because the people he is paying are refusing his payments. Is it technically a default? Yes but as a selective default not predicated upon insolvency it doesn’t have the same impact.
     

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