Rudy Giuliani denies asking Ukraine to investigate Biden -- before admitting it

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  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Do yourself a favor if you dont think i am one then dont call me one when responding.. I tire of your snide hidden insults.
     
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    Drop the partisan nonsense and tell me why Trump would threaten to withhold hundreds of military aid from a country unless they investigate something that Biden bragged about publicly?

    It is because Biden did not brag about anything illegal or even immoral. The Prosecutor was widely viewed as corrupt. The entire G-7 got behind the notion that he should be removed. Biden was the spokesperson for a movement that was proper and correct.
     
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    I did not call you a Trumpette. I said that Trump and his Trumpettes are desperate enough to believe that an investigation into Biden and Ukraine (something that has been repeatedly investigated and found wanting) would hurt Biden's political aspirations.

    Do you believe such an investigation would hurt his political aspirations? Is that why you believe Trump is pushing for the investigation, pushing to the point of threatening to withhold military aid from an international ally unless they investigate his political opponent?
     
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    So you admit Biden did brag about blacking mailing the Ukrainian govt until the case against his son was dropped? Good.

    Now it’s important to figure out if it was illegal, and time for little Biden to pay for his corruption. He had a history around the globe if it, and his dad covering for him
     
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    Why are you so worried about corruption being investigated? What is Trump hiding by refusing to release the transcripts at the heart of a whistleblower complaint deemed credible and urgent by his own appointee? What is Trump hiding by refusing to disclose even the details of the whistleblower complaint deemed credible and urgent by his own appointee?
     
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    No, I did not admit to such and you are being intentionally obtuse to pretend such.

    He publicly bragged about getting the Ukrainian Prosecutor dismissed because he was corrupt. The entire of the G-7 backed that decision. Move on.
     
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    I am not, I openly support the Ukrainians right to investigate.

    He’s hiding nothing. The content of his communications with foreign heads of stars is confidential. So says the OLC and DOJ
     
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    How many years have we given them military aid......
     
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    Shokin is not been jailed, charged or even investigated. Biden wanted his son to be protected, that’s all
     
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    He has the authority to disclose any confidential communications.

    Congress also has the authority and the obligation under the law to receive the contents and details of any whistleblower complaint. And yet he is hiding both.

    Why is he doing that?
     
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    Then you can surely prove it.

    Oh you can't? And you just want to keep deflecting from the fact that Trump threatened to withhold millions in military aid unless a foreign government agreed to investigate his chief political rival?

    Do tell.
     
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    No clue.

    Why did Trump hold up the Congressionally authorized funds until after he demanded the Ukrainian President launch an investigation into his chief political rival and then released an extra 120 million?
     
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    Sure he can....but it's not always necessary. He has the President of Ukriane to think about, as well as information related to an ungoing criminal probe over there.

    and now we already know the whistleblower in this case actually didn't have any first hand knowledge of the phone call...

    No, the law only requires the information related to intel community people, and goes to the Intel Committee....here it's not about a member of the intel community
     
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    Geez...he confessed to it....the video has been shown.

    Biden clearlyl is caught bragging about what you claim the President did....nice deflection....won't work though
     
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    You would have to ask the now gone Bolton and the Current Defense Sec that.
     
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    I think you and I both know the answer already.

    Trump is desperate.
     
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    What did he brag about? Please do quote me where he referenced the company on which his son sat on the board.

    You can not. I know it is a difficult fact to accept.
     
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    So why is Trump hiding the details of that conversation and the details of the whistleblower complaint?

    Because he is desperate to cover his own failings.
     
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    Getting the Attorney fired who was investigating his son and his company. Mykola Zlochevsky is going to be your worst nightmare! Why was Joe protecting him?
     
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    He isn't....he has discussed them publicly.
     
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    Yes, he called them "absolutely perfect."

    That sounds like some grade-A level of detail right there, to you?
     
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    You know that the prosecutor was seeking bribes from that company? Did you know that the company fully complied with the replacement prosecutor?
     
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    Seth Rich was going to destroy Hillary Clinton. Ask Fox News how that one is turning out.
     
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    You mean the replacement prosecutor that reopened the case?
     
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    Fully complied??? hahha the owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, fled the country while it was going on! He only returned when the Govt dropped the case in 2017 (after Biden's blackmail)....it has since been reopened.

    Dark days ahead for the Bidens. Not surprised you all are furious that Ukraine has normalized relations with our country, and reopened their corruption probe
     
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