Rudy Giuliani tests positive for COVID-19

So then you ARE ok with 60k deaths a year, without locking down. You dont like the way its framed is all.

But the fact is, you accept those deaths every year because you know the price of individual liberty is death.

That same logic absolutely applies now. The chinavirus is not an unknown variable anymore, so supporting more lockdowns to save as many lives as possible is nonsensical and fascist. And that same argument could be used every year for the flu.

Dems are not showing logical consistency here.

 

Per CNN, Guliani admitted to Georgetown hospital

 

I'm not okay with 60k deaths, but we have vaccines for the flu so we don't need to lockdown. Can I walk into my local pharmacy and get a vaccination for COVID today?

What is your position about the Trump travel ban when the US had a handful of cases?

 

At the current covid death rate, we have +60,000 deaths in a month, not like in a particularly bad whole season with the flu. Plus, those +60,000 deaths are WITH hand washing, mask wearing and social distancing, unlike what is done in a normal flu season. So, stop your false claims of equivalency between the response to the flu and covid, everyone sees immediately through your silly partisan talking point.

 

It's your claim it's your burden to prove it.

Otherwise it's just fake news

 

Incorrect, despite the vaccines we still lose up to 60k people a year, including many who had the vaccine. So from an objective standpoint if you dont support lockdowns for the flu then you are ok with those deaths. You inherently are accepting those deaths so that you can have personal liberty.

You just dont like the framing is all. But you are.

 

Incorrect, its objectively true regardless if you choose to do the right thing and inform yourself. It’s not my job to make you be informed. It’s yours to do your own research.

 

You made the claim you have the burden of proof.

Otherwise it's just more fake news from the Right. Seems to be a very common trend these days.

 

It’s not a false equivalency at all, you are misrepresenting my position because you recognize its validity.

The fact is, you accept those deaths during flu season because you want your personal liberty.

Be it 60, or 600k the logic is still the same.

Chinavirus isn’t an unknown anymore, and you aren’t the good person you think you are because you support lockdowns now, but not during the flu. You just dont like the framing, because its bluntly obvious and makes you question your own morality that you were previously so confident of.

 

Varies widely by year:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_influenza_statistics_by_flu_season

 

Every year we have a good vaccine for the flu.

Maybe 40,000 people a year die

Now we have almost 300,000 dead and the vaccine is not ready

It's illogical to compare the two

 

Which is exacty why I said UP TO.

 

Whats illogical is to NOT compare the two at all.

There are definitive parallels to be made.

Even with vaccines we lose up to 60k. So by not being ok with locking down you are inherently accepting those deaths as necessary so you can live your life normally.

The exact number is irrelevant.

 

And this year we have the flu ON TOP OF an already out-of-control Covid.

But I know ...

 

Except the mask isn’t helping. But dont let that stop you from believing whatever you want.

Nor did that even begin to refute my objectively true point.

 

Exactly. 2020 has really exposed the pseudo-patriotic right. Their allegiance is to a person, not a country. When the military attacked our own citizens who were exercising their constitutional rights, the "Don't Tread on Me" crowd flipped the channel back to Duck Dynasty. They are all frauds.

 

That's why doctors refuse to wear masks in hospitals ...

Sell it somewhere else, dude.

 

2016 to 2020 exposed the pseudo science left. “Just believing” whenever the media tells them to, believing covid numbers only when it suits them to attack.

When dems destroyed billions of dollars of other peoples property, dems were supportive of the rioters. Even though they were super spreaders.

Smh. The previous few years have shown the inconsistency of the dems.

 

Yet, not data that supports the idea its working haha.

Yet, dont let that stop you from signaling to your tribe you are down with the narrative haha.

 

50% of people take the vaccine, so I wouldn't say many of those deaths are from people who have taken the vaccine. Lockdowns are only one measure to prevent the spread of a disease. Why do you think anyone wants to lockdown as the first option?

By the way, why are you so afraid to answer my question about Trump's travel ban?

 

Noise-cancelling technology could eliminate farting noises. That's bonus!

 

God doesn’t seem pleased with the Republican Party...

Flies, disease, death...
Wonder what they are doing wrong?

 

From an objective standpoint, many who took the vaccine are among the dead. Your refusal to acknowledge this is very telling.

So the fact is, if we lockdown every year during flu season we could save many of those lives yet you dont want to. You dont want to, because you acknowledge those deaths are acceptable so you can live your life normally.

I will answer your question just as soon as i get some intellectual honesty from you. As of yet, you have not demonstrated any.

You dont like the framing so you avoid the reality.

 

Disease and death mostly affected democrats in democrat areas. Even in red states it is blue areas being hit the hardest.

I’m not religious but you seem to be, so mabye look in the mirror.

 

Back in May, Trump fanatics got this idea that wearing masks was unTrumpian, so basically, with these good folks running around spewing crap
from every bodily hole, it sort of screwed up the whole test for mask effectiveness.

Vietnam did it right. Trump and his cult of followers screwed the pooch.