Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That the ban applies to Ukrainia's use of them but the US never agreed to it.
     
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    I view Russians as fascists now. They are way beyond the point of just being misguided fools.
    Barbaric behavior demands barbaric solutions: castrations or amputations of feet is OK at this point. Maybe, Ukraine should look into the way some Africans were prevented from fighting during numerous recent wars - just hack the hands off of a Russian soldier on the spot, with no anesthesia. Save precious resources on treatment and imprisonment.
    Mariupol is proof that you can’t be nice with Russians as they have absolutely no problem with starving and carpet bombing a surrounded city with no way out for the civilians.
    The more gruesome Ukrainians become, the more horrified Russians will be at home and will do everything in their power to avoid being sent there.
    :lol:
     
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    Well, yes, it is, this is a video from Ukrainian TV, which is simply relayed by RT. What is the problem?
     
  4. Jack Hays

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    Sorry, but that's just a propaganda line adjusted for the increasing likelihood of Russian defeat. Meanwhile:
    Reuters
    Russia may not stop with Ukraine – NATO looks to its weakest link
    Hours after Russian missiles first struck Ukrainian cities on Feb. 24, German naval commander Terje Schmitt-Eliassen received notice to sail five warships under his command to the former Soviet Republic of Latvia to help protect the most vulnerable part of NATO's eastern flank. The hasty dispatch was part of Germany's scramble to send "everything that can swim out to sea," as the navy's top boss phrased it, to defend an area military strategists have long deemed the weakest point for the allian
     
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    There is no reason to accept RT's claim for the video's origin.
     
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    I actually think Ukrainian fighters have the absolute right to become as gruesome as they please. Their enemy never tells the truth and uses international norms and laws only to their advantage, while ignoring them altogether when these things don’t suit their needs.
     
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    I'm a little confused about what you're talking about. Officially, there is no ban on using this system. If there is one, I ask you to provide a link to the document. Appeals from the States (a certain former US officer Brent Eastwood).
     
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    Anyone complaining about Russian Propaganda is just whining cause they can't handle the information like an adult. What kind of B$$$$ repeats NATO propaganda all day, and gets pissy when someone posts something from Russia. And it's a Ukrainian Video. I'd like to actually get some knowledge about what's happening on both sides, but the Anti-Russia side can't stop propagandizing in desperation. And the Russians don't at all concerned or bothered. It doesn't matter if you change any of the 10 minds on the thread. Russia is still favored to win this war with reinforcements and bigger weapons streaming into Ukraine.
     
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    Everyone has already realized that Mengele is clearly your idol
     
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    Financially unsustainable, as well.

    By the end of today Russia will have burned through a little over a third of its total GDP for 2021.

    At the rate his army is going, Vlad the Invader's Not-So-Excellent Misadventure in Ukraine is going to wind up bankrupting Russia...
     
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    “You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out. I know I had no hand in making this war, and I know I will make more sacrifices to-day than any of you to secure peace.”
    ― William T. Sherman, Memoirs of General W.T. Sherman
     
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    Uhhh .....
    Obviously.
     
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    Yeah. Russia is definitely getting that sense from some Ukrainians who are shooting deserters and alleged 'Russian Operatives' and 'Saboteurs' in the head and back. They were bragging a week ago about how they killed one their own negotiators. I guess he wanted to settle.
     
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    Well, you didn't say a damn thing about the genocide of the people in the Donbass for the last 8 years so I'm not surprised.....as it goes hand in hand with your projection of the Russians being fascists.

    Yes, the longer this goes, the more the veil is removed.

    Zelensky jailed his main political opponent before the war started.
    Zelensky had one of his peace delegates murdered after the first round of negotiations with Russia.
    Zelensky banned and removed all opposition political parties----now there is one party rule. Notably, the nazi/fascist party wasn't removed.
    Zelensky banned all TV outlets except for one owned by his thug buddy Kolomoisky. The man who also owns Burisma.
    Zelensky got elected by promising peace in the Donbass but did exactly the opposite and continued Poroshenko's genocide.

    So this is the 'democracy' of Ukraine.

    A pure dictatorship with no free press.

    Yeah, sending these nazi-loving *******s more weapons seems like a great idea.
     
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    Pretty sure at this point that Russia is past caring.

    Great illustration for NATO hardening its flank, though. A bunch of guys standing there with their hands in their pockets. Is Russia represented by the guy on the bike??
     
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    I'm sorry, but since English is not my native language, there may be a misunderstanding)
     
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    Russian war propaganda is available right on this thread.
    So far, none of it, even viewed as accurate, justifies the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    Putin should have stopped as soon as his closest allies started reacting against this threat to their independence.

    “Why it matters: As the Western world seeks to make Putin an international pariah, even his ***closest allies are resisting*** showing support for his assault on Ukraine.

    Driving the news: Czech President Milos Zeman and Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban, both historically strong pro-Russian voices in the European Union, condemned the affront as ***"an unprovoked act of aggression,"*** AP reports.
    • "Russia has committed a ***crime against peace***,” Zeman said.
    • Zeman, who earlier this week insisted that Russia wouldn't attack Ukraine, changed course and has ***called for harsh sanctions*** against Russia, including pulling out of the SWIFT financial system.
    • Orban, who has pursued a diplomatic and economic strategy with Putin called "Eastern Opening," condemned "Russia's military action."
    • “Hungary’s position is clear: ***we stand by Ukraine***, we stand by Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty,” said Hungary's Foreign Minister Peter Szijijarto, per AP.”
    • YAHOO NEWS, , Putin’s allies abandon him over Ukraine invasion, By Erin Doherty, Sat, February 26, 2022. (***mine)https://news.yahoo.com/putin-allies-abandon-him-over-145753271.html
    Putin has managed to dig a deep pit in Ukraine. It is time to stop digging and climb out.
     
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    How can you rely on anything that comes out of Russia if everything that has come out of it so far was just a blatant lie?
    Where can you get unbiased info in Russia if their own president lies through his teeth and has been repeatedly proven to be a liar?
     
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    As I recall you predicted this invasion would succeed in 24 hours.
    Isn't it time to start questioning the assumptions you are relying on?
     
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    Anyone who thinks taking power of a country by imposing a military-political coup is the action of a "good guy" Democracy is lying to him/herself and everyone within earshot.

     
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    They are in a state of active war.
    These things happen during wars. Even in the US the constitution can be suspended during times of active war on home territory.
     
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    No idea who Mengele is, but whatever helps you sleep at night.
    :lol:
     
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    Oh, now I understand. My original response to you is that I agree with you. All I wanted from you is to tell me that what you wrote was true because it was the first time I have heard about it.
     
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