Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Thingamabob

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    Yes, I think it's at the corner of Märkische Allee and Havemannstraße.

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    Changed his jacket and crawled (with his last bit of strength) closer to the other guy?
     
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    He's the President's National Security Advisor.
     
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    I would love to see this government made more democratic than it is now. I think this republican model is too top-down by nature and breeds the kind of power and corruption that we see. It has certainly given rise to this awful two-party system. The first and most important change to remedy this would be a move away from a winner-take-all electoral model to one resembling the parliamentary system. Minority interests should be better represented at the ballot box. As it is now, minority interests receive little attention and have little voice in Congress, except maybe when we have a 50-50 Senate as we do now or an equally divided House. In fact, we would need both chambers to be evenly divided for there to be any significant chance of minority interests playing an important role.

    We should also have a vote of no confidence as an option if the government is failing to deliver.

    Such changes would do wonders for civic engagement, since individual votes would matter a whole lot more. As it is now, votes matter very little. Even if we get the candidate we want, it really doesn't change much, and when it comes to the President, each individual vote is practically meaningless, especially in any state that isn't a swing state.
     
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    Never heard of "chekists" unless you mean Tjeka.
     
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    Nonsense.
    Ukrainian villagers describe cruel and brutal Russian occupation
    Residents described theft, beatings, torture and at least one killing of an unarmed civilian at the hands of Russian soldiers.
    By Isabelle Khurshudyan
    Russia faces global outrage over bodies in Ukraine's streets
    https://apnews.com › article › russia-ukraine-zelenskyy-...


    43 minutes ago — BUCHA, Ukraine (AP) — Moscow faced global revulsion and accusations of war crimes Monday after the Russian pullout from the outskirts of ...


    Ukraine live news: Tortured, executed bodies of five men ...
    https://news.sky.com › story › ukraine-live-news-germa...


    11 hours ago — Ukraine latest as Sky News sees the tortured bodies of five executed men in ... Ukrainian military says Russian troops have completed their ...
     
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    Not only is our Constitution and the principle of small, limited government that it is based on viable, it is the only thing, other than the men and women who defend it, that protects your freedom from the Big Government you advocate. As for our prosperity and "keeping up" is concerned, how much debt has the Federal Leviathan racked up, hmm? According to the National Debt Clock, it's $30.6 trillion, not to mention $168.5 trillion in unfunded liabilities. How does that sound viable to you?

    Shall we take a trip down Memory Lane and discuss all the big governments that have destroyed the freedom and prosperity of their people?

    And relevant to this thread, I bet Vladimir Putin would agree with your argument that there is no viable alternative to big, robust government that provides us with prosperity and especially security. Every tyrant throughout History has agreed with that argument.
     
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    Hence our Constitution and the principle of limited government it is based on.
     
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    Wouldn't be looking to the NYT for that mate .. let us not forget the war in Iraq .. and well .. just about any other conflict the US is involved in - the mouthpiece of State Sponsored Propaganda .. I thought you knew that ?!
     
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    The satellite images are widely available and stories are proliferating over the internet. Your deception is unsustainable. And your mischaracterization of the NYT is laughable.
     
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    Russian comments and "explanations" have no credibility now. ..........

    What remains now is how and when the relevant people will be brought to intentional court.......for the WAR CRIMES they committed....( or ordered to be committed)

    and yes.....this horror is likely the tip of an iceberg. The insanity of this inhumanity is beyond astounding and heartbreaking.

    Humanity fueled by greed, power, entitlement etc does not seem to learn from previous horrors.
     
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    The size of the government does not affect whether it is bound by the Constitution or not.

    Bottom line is that it's not the size of the government that matters, but how it's run.

    As for the national debt, who cares? Republicans don't when it's Republicans in charge of the purse strings and they hypocritically increase the deficit while accusing Democrats of doing so, when in fact it is consistently reduced by Democratic administrations. But the national debt is not even a burden to us. It's nothing but a big, scary number used by liars in politics to manipulate an under-educated constituency, just like how they use the southern border and other non-issues.
     
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    Satellite imagery shows bodies laid in Bucha streets for weeks, contradicting . . .
    High-resolution satellite imagery from Maxar Technologies collected over Bucha, Ukraine, corroborates recent social media videos and photos that show bodies lying out in the streets for weeks.
     
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    You are grasping for straws.
     
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    I don't think the Russians took satellite imagery into account when they concocted their deception about Bucha. That tells me they were improvising and they're making it up as they go along. They're off script and they don't know where this is going.
     
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    That's been their situation from day one of this fiasco.
     
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    They had a plan, but:
    “No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main strength.” --Helmuth von Moltke
     
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    Didn't say the story wasn't True - just commenting on using NYT as a source during wartime... due to their demonstrable track record of State Sponsored Propaganda during such times..

    Whats "Laughable" is that someone who claims to have been employed in spycraft and or foreign affairs - doesn't know this about the NYT .. heck .. some of the stuff they have apologized for .. but guess you didn't get the memo aye mate .. Somtin Fishy about story - don't add up 2 and 2 .. every man in spyworld knows NYT is a shill for the state .. why don't you ?
     
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    Just given you a heads up .. not grasping at anything .. didn't even claim the story false .. what got your curlies so up on the defensive .. didn't get the memo that the NYT has a demonstrable track record of "Propaganda" during such times .. No wonder you are so ill informed at times ..no pun intended - got to get you some better sources ..
     
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    No, the NYT is not a shill for the state. I don't care for some of their work, but shilling for the state is not their problem. Regardless, the corpses in Bucha are to the Russians' account.
     
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    Read the caption...he was there for the still photo op but when the video was made he apparently had to take a leak and missed it.

    People ought to reason this through. Here I've read that satellite images show the bodies were laying in the streets for weeks....but they didn't decompose nor did anyone move them? Bullshit. Are we to believe they laid there for weeks and they were never ran over by any trucks or tanks? Bullshit. Then...something that completely defies the narrative that these 'bodies' laid in the streets for weeks....a 'mass grave' is found. A mass grave obviously dug with a track excavator...and these bodies (that the Russians would let lay in the streets for weeks) are now in body bags? Did the Rooskies steal a trackhoe and then return it...yeah right. :roflol::roflol: Does anyone see how stupid this argument is? A slight contradiction. On the one hand, supposedly these ruthless Russians are letting them rot in the streets but they are also burying them and taking the time to put them in body bags?? :laughing: such bullshit

    It's a good thing I know a Russian/Ukrainian that has relatives in Ukraine. I talked to her today as a matter of fact. She said her relatives informed her that the Russian troops have been very respectful and helpful, but on the other hand, the Ukrainians have been :icon_shithappens::icon_shithappens:.

    So go ahead and believe some bullshit that defies logic. I've already shown how the Ukrops are staging propaganda. Made for TV bullshit...stick their hands out for more money for the corrupt Nazis and politicians. Did the 'ghost of Kiev' shoot down another 20 jets today???? :D
     
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