Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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    General McCaffrey: Putin Just Signed Up For A ‘Ten Year Event’


    “Putin has already lost the war strategically. But this won’t be over. This is a ten year event he just signed up for—he’s in trouble,” says General Barry McCaffrey.​

    Fight on, Ukraine! You are winning!
     
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    Its not going to be a ten year war. Russia is being crushed by sanctions, they can’t buy chips for equipment replacement. Russian quality of life will be rapidly detoriating. They don’t have enough money to finance a 10 year war effort at current level. I seriously doubt this war will last longer than 1 month.
     
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    THAT'S NOTHING!!! You need to look at the reality of America.

    What happens if you protest in America, what happens if you are homeless in LA? RECENT EVENTS TWO YEARS AGO!


    Balin Brake of Indiana loses eye after being struck by police tear gas canister

    "The tyranny that the Athenian empire imposed on others, it finally imposed on itself." --Thucydides (460-400 BC)


    Journalists blinded, injured, arrested covering George Floyd protests nationwide

    Denver protest bystander blind in one eye after being hit by police with “less lethal” projectile

    Police are using sonic weapons against protesters that can cause permanent hearing loss

    Brandon Saenz Lost Eye After Dallas Police Shot Him in the face with Projectile

    Police Are Investigating After A Homeless Man In A Wheelchair Was Allegedly Shot In The Face With A Rubber Bullet
    (Trump loved this....Israeli police taught American police blinding techniques)
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    There is a difference between a peaceful protest and a riot. ;)
     
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    Added photo.
     
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    Indeed. That's not what McCaffrey is arguing, really. It's more that this is the kind of fight that Putin is facing in Ukraine - a very long and unwinnable war.
     
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    Completely irrelevant to my post and this thread.
     
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    Responding to your pictures of authoritarianism in Russia. You know, there isn't only one evil in the world.
     
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    I'm not convinced he cares much about 10 years. This looks like the behaviour of a man looking to his legacy. He can 'reunite' parts of Ukraine with Russia, declare victory and retire before the long term consequences of all this come due.

    Putin & Russia's obsession with making Russia 'important' and pandering to the pride of a second rate nation trying to act like a first rate one will just make them more & more dependent on China. Future Russian leaders will understand that the only choice will be to return what they stole and become a partner with Europe as an ordinary, civilized, democratic nation or quietly accept instructions from Beijing as the price for the pretence of importance.

    Not hard to work out which Russia will choose.
     
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    Again, irrelevant. Also quite inaccurate in your case.
     
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    Nah, everything that comes out of Mordor should be taken with a grain of salt.
    I think Ukrainian losses are close to 1,000 so far.
     
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    Putin has now entered Ukraine as he had done in 2014. At that time Russian troops went into the Donbas region to repel Ukrainian troops in order to protect the Russian people living there. Once Russia succeeded in stabilizing the situation (and destroying most of the Ukrainian army), Putin withdrew. He didn’t want Ukraine. So happened now? Did Putin start World War III, or could it be that there is a completely different mission underway? This is a completely different agenda. We know that there are many neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine and We know that Obama and Biden orchestrated a coup and placed their puppet Poroshenko in the 2014 presidency and we know that the deep state has been using Ukraine as a money-laundering machine.
    There are a number of people in Ukraine who have control over the country just like the deep state of the United States, the CCP, and the Communist Party of China.

    The mission of Russian troops in Ukraine is to destroy certain strategic areas but it wouldn’t be necessary had not:

    * Biden and Nuland carried out the coup in 2014
    * Hillary instigated the Russian blasphemy scam
    * Democrats used Ukraine as a wedge
    * Media and Big Tech hid Biden's corruption before the 2020 election.
     
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    As I have stated previously stats and reports from either ministry of defense should be taken as biased and propaganda. A better estimate would be to take an average between the two of them, as they both have numerous reasons to lie about the true numbers.
     
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    Jeannette, the Americans do what they do and have done out of malicious intent. My comment about Putin appearing more paranoid was more about his personal conduct. And in a way its relevant to what is happening in Ukraine as well. If Putin engaged in this conflict with a clear geopolitical blue-print of what he is seeking to achieve, I think his actions strategically and tactically would have been different. But his actions have been tactically and strategically incoherent. More like throwing a tantrum than a genuine attempt to follow a clear path to checkmate the empire.
     
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    Ukraine’s drone strikes reveal Russian planning failures, expert says

    Davis Winkie
    Tue, March 1, 2022, 4:31 PM

    Amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine, a small portion of the defenders’ arsenal has had a disproportionate effect — Ukraine’s handful of Bayraktar TB2 armed drones.

    Videos of their exploits have millions of views. They’ve destroyed surface-to-air missile launchers and logistics trains. They’ve inspired songs and are a common refrain in videos taunting the Russian invaders.

    Despite their small number — around 20, according to pre-war comments made to Al-Monitor — the drones have been heavily utilized, according to Ukrainian officials. Russia, on the other hand, claims it has shot down some of the drones.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-drone-strikes-reveal-russian-223151164.html
     
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    Russian forces advance as fighting intensifies in Ukraine


    The United Nations overwhelmingly voted to denounce the Russian invasion of Ukraine Wednesday as the week-long war grinds on in the north, east, and south of Ukraine. The UN also reported that more than 800,000 Ukrainians have fled for surrounding nations. Meanwhile, Russia said 500 of its troops have been killed, though the numbers are thought to be higher. Nick Schifrin reports from Lviv.​
     
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    Ukrainian mayor: 'Thousands of people will protect our city'


    ABC News' Linsey Davis speaks with Rivne, Ukraine, Mayor Oleksandr Tretyak about Ukraine's defense as Russian troops step up attacks on civilians.​
     
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    Ok...thx..CNN reporting 2000......but haven't verified it .

    Hard to get any specifics about loss of life in the fog of misinformation overload .
     
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    They will have to be as ruthless as their invaders. Hope they are receiving all the equipment being sent to them..........and know how to u;sue it
     
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    Thousands of Russian protesters have been arrested as students and intellectuals speak out

    From CNN Contributor Jill Dougherty

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    Police detain demonstrators in St. Petersburg, Russia, on March 1. (Dmitri Lovetsky/AP)
    Tasya, 19, stood with her friends on a cold morning in St. Petersburg as they joined protesters' chants against the Russian invasion of Ukraine: "Nyet Voine!" ("No to War!").

    "It's always safer to stand together with others ... to look over your shoulder, in case you need to run," said Tasya, who asked that her last name not be used for her safety. At some point, Tasya said her friends left the protest to go home or somewhere else to warm up, leaving her standing alone in the street.

    "Then a group of cops walked past me ... and suddenly one of them looked at me and then they turned around, walked towards me and detained me," she said of the February 24 protest.

    Protests are continuing across Russia as young citizens, along with middle-age and even retired people, take to the streets to speak out against a military conflict ordered by their President — a decision in which, they claim, they had no say.

    Now, they are finding their voice. But Russian authorities are intent on shutting down any public dissent against the attack on Ukraine. Police clamp down on demonstrations almost as quickly as they pop up, dragging some protesters away and roughing up others.

    Police in St. Petersburg arrested at least 350 anti-war protesters on Wednesday, taking the total number of protesters detained or arrested to 7,624 since the invasion began, according to an independent organization that tracks human rights violations in Russia.

    Intellectuals speak out: Members of Russia's "intelligentsia" — academics, writers, journalists and others — have issued public appeals decrying the war, including a rare "open letter" to Putin signed by 1,200 students, faculty and staff of MGIMO University, the prestigious Moscow State Institute of International Relations, affiliated with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which produces most of Russia's government and foreign service elite.

    The signers proclaim they are "categorically against the Russian Federation's military actions in Ukraine."

    "We consider it morally unacceptable to stay on the sidelines and keep silent when people are dying in a neighboring state. They are dying through the fault of those who preferred weapons instead of peaceful diplomacy," the letter says.​

    Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-03-22/index.html
     
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    Analysis: How Moscow's propaganda network warps reality to present Russia as a victim

    Analysis from CNN's Oliver Darcy

    On Wednesday morning, as Russia's unprovoked war on Ukraine entered its seventh day, I turned on RT, the Russia-controlled network that has in recent days been banned in Europe and dropped by television carriers across the world.

    Founded in 2005, RT, which operates multiple channels, including RT America, has served as one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's largest megaphones across the world. It offers insight into how the Kremlin would like to portray the world and its role in it.

    For several hours I watched the channel and was struck by how brazenly its hosts and personalities worked to mislead its audience and deflect from the issues at hand. The main thrust of RT's coverage presented Russia as a mere victim of Western aggression, a country forced to launch a limited "military operation" after its hand was forced by a high-and-mighty NATO that showed no interest in taking Moscow's security concerns seriously.

    Here's a breakdown of what I observed on the network.

    Russia the "liberator": Peter John Lavelle, the host of RT's signature talk program, "Crosstalk," put it like this: He said that the failed "liberal order" implemented by the West was to blame. "It is so irritating," Lavelle said on his show. "The way it is being framed: Ukraine's democracy. Well, it has nothing to do with Ukraine's democracy — if you can say it even has one... This is about security... There is only security for other countries."

    Missing from coverage: Noticeably left out of the coverage was a focus on how unbearable life has been for Ukrainians whose cities are under attack by unrelenting Russian forces. I did not see much coverage showing the damage that Russian forces have caused as they try to seize control of the country. Or coverage about the residents of cities such as Kyiv who live in terror and sleep underground in bomb shelters. Or coverage about the hundreds of thousands who have simply chosen to flee the country for their safety. Those inconvenient facts were not the emphasis of the narrative RT pushed.

    Also left out of RT's coverage: The ramifications the West's sanctions and other actions are having on Russia's economy.​

    Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-03-22/index.html
     
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