Russia has completed the conceptual design of a 6th generation hypersonic stealth fig

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    Also people react in the world, when they hear the "invincible army of the USA".
     
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    freddy62 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most American subs that are out to sea would be unlikely to be taken out before they can launch their missiles, the same applies for the modern & modernised Russian subs.

    It is better not to attack cities these days in a western nation as most of the people living in them are not directly involved in manufacturing & if you instead target logistics a lot of resources will be tied up looking after those people. All that assumes a limited nuclear war, much more & both sides die from the radioactive dust even if only one side is obliterated.
     
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    Agreed -
    The Subs are the wild card - But in any full Nuke exchange - Cities will be hit -
    And any limited tactical exchange would soon escalate and spiral out of control

    Russia presently realizes that the stationing of missiles ON their boarders, when
    fully implemented, will give the USA a First Strike offensive capability that would
    ............................................................. preclude any effective retaliatory response

    The Psychopathic mattoid Idiots in Washington are making a terrible miscalculation.
    These Carpophagous degenerates had best stop playing with their Feces & realize
    ................................... that Russia will NOT allow such a gun to be placed at its head

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    You twist & LIE like your STUPID Imperialist PIG politicians & your Immoral Swine diplomats
    ............................................................. who openly advocate the murder upon countless children

    Re-Read my post Fool -
    I make it clear that "Civilization WILL end" - & unless you are totally delusional,
    you must realize that human Civilization presently exists in other places besides the
    Land of dumbed down Exceptionalist Puppets and so includes the rest of the World

    So before you throw your puerile Insults like 'dimwitted' around, check your mirror and
    ................................. add the words Ignorant & Illiterate to the reflection you see there :cool:

    Be Informed:
    DANGER: Obama Ignores Russia’s Valid National Security Worries
    http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/danger-obama-ignores-russias-valid-national-security-worries/

    Tensions Between US/NATO & Russia Are Flaring Dangerously
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-18/tensions-between-usnato-russia-are-flaring-dangerously



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    Best military on the planet. But no one is invincible. Remember that child.
     
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    Lol. Youre making a total joke out of yourself, as usual, you are aware of this yes? You claim I "twist and lie"? Hmm. Ok then. So then you are saying that you didn't say this then?

    "& you must realize as both Washington & Moscow realize that the country
    that makes the First massive Strike - WILL definitely get the better of it"

    Hmm.. That's strange because it's in your post and its was written by you. Oh and you must also be claiming that your fellow Russian propagandist enforcer of dillusions didn't say this?

    "Wether Russia will survive nuclear war? 100% will survive."

    Yeah. My point still stands. You proved it for me. Lmfao. You make this to easy.
     
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    You use laser tracking system to track and intercept it with a nice bowl of soft cheese

    [​IMG]
     
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    So what? What part of not invincible did you not understand? And was there a battle involved in This? We're these men defeated in combat? No. They unknowingly drifted out of international waters and were thus naturally picked up by the nation who's territory they entered. Rather then cause an international incident by getting into a fight they ended things peacefully. You post this like its an insult.
     
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    No sir: - I do not claim, I demonstrate - that you twist & Lie - and allow yourself to be
    .................motivated by your Anti Russian Xenophobia rather than Rational thought :mrgreen:
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    I certainly did say that the one who initiates a First Strike "Will definitely get the better of it"
    How could anybody but an Lying, Illiterate, Duffus, interpret that as indicating that the other party
    .............................................................................could escape the Catastrophic consequences ?

    But be assured - The Consequences will be less for the Nation that initiates the First Strike
    & the patently STUPID miscalculations of present American policy could push Russia into making that decision
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    Your point stands ! :roflol: It's on the top of your head! :roflol: as your LIE is bald ararmer :roflol:

    I never said
    nor did I ever indicated that Russia or any other country for that matter would escape unscathed
    ............. and for you to insinuate that, is for you to indulge in a ridiculously & Exposed fabrication

    Review my posts -
    I make it quiet plain that ALL will suffer in any Nuke exchange

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    Oh and I must must I :steamed:-

    So here is your filthy PIG LIE Exposed for all to see - As I never claimed or indicated such a thing
    if some of my Russki friends have engaged in such a Faux-Pas it is strictly their business and opinion

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    LOL :woot:
     
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    The gun is already at Russia's head. The real problem is there is no time to determine if a suspected launch from the Romanian Aegis system is a false alarm and the authorisation to nuke the Aegis would have to come directly from the commander on station of the radar that picks up the launch.

    Russia might decide to place a satellite battle station in geostationary orbit above the Romanian Aegis system that will fire off a war head or rods of god at it automatically.
     
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    Exacty ! - & some understanding of the immanence is appericated :cool:
    ........................ The whole thing could go SOUTH very quickly could IT not ?

    Who R these psychotic AzzHoles who - we have allowed to take control ?.
    .................................. in either sphere ?
    ..................................who want to play with our lives ?


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    It is true, they are Operational, but not yet Fully Operational

    Romania and Poland Are Ground Zero Now
    http://journal-neo.org/2016/06/01/romania-and-poland-are-ground-zero-now/

    “At the moment the interceptor missiles installed have a range of 500 kilometers,
    soon this will go up to 1000 kilometers, and worse than that, they can be rearmed
    with 2400km-range offensive missiles even today, and it can be done by simply
    switching the software, so that even the Romanians themselves won’t know.”


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    These soldiers are lucky that they have not started shooting. Because is very strange system feeding shells into the US Army.

    [​IMG]

    I heard that in the US army, unit "Delta" is considered one of the most prepared. Is not it?
    But if we remember the military operations unit Mr. Charles Alvin Beckwith, we will see a lot of strange. For example the first of their military operation. April 24, 1980. When these super soldiers tried to free American diplomats in Iran (since Prev Photo also from Iran)
    As a result of "Operation Eagle Claw" were killed:
    The Islamic Republic:
    On the Iranian side - the Americans killed one civilian - passenger tanker. His identity has not been established.
    USA:
    The military US Air Force, the aircraft crew of EC-130
    Major Harold Lewis Jr.
    Mayor Lin McIntosh
    Mayor Richard Bakke
    Captain Charles Makmillian
    Technical Sergeant Joel Mayo
    Soldiers ILC US helicopter crew RH-53
    Staff Sergeant Dewey Johnson
    Sgt John Harvey
    Cpl George Holmes

    [​IMG]

    May 6, 1980, President Carter ordered to declare the country in mourning for the eight "dead guy."
    In "Operation Eagle Claw" was attended by a total of 54 aircraft and helicopters, the group "Delta" in the amount of 118 people and the company of rangers. "Operation Eagle Claw" cost $ 150 million Dollars.

    On the occupation of Grenada, I will not even talk.

    If one of the best military units has such training, what to say about the rest?
     
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    The End of M.A.D. — The Beginning of Madness
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-end-of-m-a-d-the-beginning-of-madness/5528403


    John Helmer, who explains military-strategic matters better and more knowledgeably than just about
    anyone, headlined on May 30th,
    “The Red Line Crossed, In the Cross-Hairs, At Trigger Point” , and he opened:

    First there was the red-line announcement. On Friday [May 27th] in Athens there was the cross-hairs
    statement. By the month of October, the month before the US presidential election, there will be the
    trigger point.

    The US and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) allies are going to war with Russia,
    accelerating the inevitability that Russia will strike in self-defence. This is what the first and second
    statements by President Vladimir Putin warn. There will be no statement of warning.


    News media in the West treat any such report — that Russia might be placed into a situation in which a
    blitz nuclear attack against the West would (and maybe even will) be Russia’s rational response to
    Western operations to surround Russia with hostile forces on its borders — as if there’s something
    kooky about any such opinion: they treat it as if the West weren’t ruled by people who are that evil, as if
    recognizing such evil in a ruler in the West is to be prohibited (especially if that ruler is America’s
    President, instead of, for example, Turkey’s President, whom apparently one is allowed to impute to be
    evil). On the present occasion, however, they should pay close attention to the situation Helmer
    describes, and they should report about the matter, while there might still be time enough to avert an
    unimaginable catastrophe, which (as Helmer explains in detail) could quite possibly happen this year.

    The West is in stark reality-denial. Whereas the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, between JFK and
    Khrushchev, was accompanied by an appropriate public fear on both sides, the even more dangerous
    situation this time, between Putin and Obama, elicits such fear only among the Russian people, not at all
    among Americans and other Westerners.

    Mutually Assured Destruction, or M.A.D., isn’t only a reality in a nuclearly armed multipolar world, but it
    is also, and equally importantly, also a mass-psychology, of belief that there cannot be any winner of a
    nuclear war — that (especially regarding a nuclear conflict between the two nuclear superpowers) any
    nuclear war will destroy the planet we all share. This sense of a shared fate on both sides, is central to
    M.A.D., as what it was — the foundation-stone of the post-world-war era, the era in which existed the
    longest extended period without a global war, since the advent of global war in 1914.

    That era is, tragically, now over.

    M.A.D. ended as a mass-psychology in the West, but not in the East — not in Russia, and not in any
    other of the world’s free nations, otherwise known as the independent nations (the nations that aren’t
    under the control of the U.S. aristocracy and of any of the aristocracies that are allied to that aristocracy
    — nor of any other foreign nation’s aristocracy), or also called the “BRICS” nations (which just recently
    lost its “B” when Brazil underwent a coup, which changed Brazil to becoming now a satellite of the U.S.,
    which will probably (if nuclear war is averted) then be ‘rescued’ by IMF loans that will increasingly strip
    the Brazilian public and leave them with even lower living-standards and even deeper indebtedness,
    which will increasingly be owed to foreign lenders).

    M.A.D. resulted from the balance that existed when America’s NATO alliance was counterbalanced by
    the USSR’s Warsaw Pact alliance. Therefore, the very idea of nuclear ‘conquest’, in a military sense, was
    simply assumed to be impractical, not only by the publics on both sides, but (at least as crucially) by the
    two opposed aristocracies, West versus East, U.S.-allied versus U.S.S.R.-allied.

    The end result of U.S. President George Herbert Walker Bush’s secret strategy, in 1990-1991, of
    terminating that M.A.D. by his regime’s lying so as to fool Gorbachev to terminate the USSR and its
    Warsaw Pact while Gorbachev (and then his successor Yeltsin) allowed continuation and even
    expansion of NATO
    ,
    has become, in the West, a total lack of the near-hysteria of mutual fear of nuclear
    annihilation that had existed in both the West and the East during the Cold War, and its replacement
    now by a nonchalant West and an increasingly terrified East, as the West is making preparations
    for what the U.S. aristocracy seems increasingly to believe to be a previously unprecedented situation,
    in which the U.S. aristocracy and its allied stooge-aristocracies (in Europe, Japan, and Australia) can
    emerge as actual victors after a nuclear war
    .


    Thus, in the West, there is no hysteria, such as once existed, for everyone to build his/her own family
    bomb-shelter, even as the West now is tightening its nuclear noose around the Russians’ collective neck
    . Instead, that previous fear and sometimes even hysteria, has been replaced by a situation in which
    only some individuals (no one knows whom nor how many) from the West’s aristocracies, have
    purchased elaborate hardened underground luxurious bunkers, in preparation for their increasingly
    likely future existences in a presumed post nuclear-holocaust world, and meanwhile the Western
    masses are not at all outraged at their being left fully exposed with no bunkers at all; and, the reason
    they’re not, is that they believe that, as their country becomes ‘protected’ by a ballistic-missile-‘defense’
    or BMD or ABM (anti-ballistic-missile) system against the ‘enemy’ (now just Russia), they’ve got no more
    need to worry about ’the enemy’.


    The Reagan-era ‘Star Wars’ anti-ballistic missile defense dream for the American aristocracy, is now
    starting to be realized finally in an Obama-era Lockheed Martin “Aegis Ashore Missile Defense System”
    nightmare for the Russian people alone, as the putative imagined pathway towards global
    victory for America’s aristocracy is becoming installed in eastern Europe and other areas bordering on
    and close to Russia. The American and other Western publics are blithely unworried about it, because
    the aristocracy’s ‘news’ media have told them that this is ‘just a defensive measure against possible
    further Russian aggression’ (not a reach-for-global-conquest by America’s aristocracy, which it actually
    is).

    This is one of the reasons why, from the standpoint of America’s rulers, it’s so vitally important for
    information about those luxurious bunkers to be circulated only in publications for the elite, such as
    FORBES. If the general public were to become increasingly aware that the few billionaires amongst them
    are making their own preparations for living in a possible post-nuclear-holocaust nation, then the
    uncomfortable questions would arise as to why the federal government is not assisting the general
    public to do likewise (or at least to live in some kind of bunker, such as did happen back in ‘the good old
    days’).

    This is also the result of the ‘libertarian’ or ‘neoliberal’ ideology, the ideology of ‘individualism’, which
    the aristocracy has systematically inculcated now into generations of people in the West, which
    denigrates the government’s obligations to the public, and which raises instead to the ideal, the belief in
    the rightness of ‘every man for himself’ and ‘we are not in this together’, because ‘the masses of lazy
    bums and stupid people should get nothing more than whatever they deserve’. If, perhaps, a billionaire
    can afford to live ‘safely’ deep underground, then “more power to him,” according to this ideology,
    which proclaims that equality of rights is wrong, and that instead a person deserves to have no more
    rights than he or she has property, wealth, dollars — things to trade with other individuals who possess
    wealth. In the U.S., this transactional basis for individuals’ rights was the ideology of the Supreme Court
    in a series of decisions such as the 2010 Citizens United decision, that a person’s right to ‘free speech’
    should be proportional to how much money he/she spends to buy it so as to persuade others to vote the
    way one wants them to vote, or to buy whatever else one wants them to buy.

    This transactional concept of an individual’s rights is a protection of dollars, not really of people. It’s for
    (and in service to) an aristocracy, not a democracy. This Supreme Court has supported aristocracy, not
    democracy. And, since, after WW II, this has increasingly become the new ethos, not only in the United
    States but in all countries that take the U.S. to be the ideal, Western publics are not at all outraged at
    being left high-and-dry in the event that perhaps the new military-security system, which is replacing
    the shared safety of M.A.D., is replacing it with the competitive and non-shared safety of ’nuclear primacy’,
    and will end up leaving the public out in the cold nuclear winter in the enemy’s camp.


    After all, in the totally competitive world, what’s won is taken, and what’s lost is given; and, ‘to the
    victor belong the spoils’. This might not necessarily be so in economics, but it certainly is so in the
    military; it even defines the military outlook — which, after all, is what we’re talking about here.


    And, if people have to pay for their rights, then the ‘enemy’ isn’t the aristocracy — certainly not that of
    one’s own nation — but instead, it is the people who don’t have the money to buy their own rights.
    Some people call this type of political system ‘liberty’ or ‘libertarianism’ or ‘liberalism’ or ‘neoliberalism’;
    but, by whatever name it is called, it certainly isn’t democracy, and it certainly isn’t equality of rights,
    and it certainly isn’t equality of opportunity. It is, in a word: fascism. That’s an extension of the military
    outlook, into everything.

    But another accurate term for it is: madness. However, it is a madness that has been sold, by Western
    aristocracies, to the publics in the West, which is the reason why the belief in M.A.D. is now gone from
    the West. The popular belief there now is: eat or else be eaten. And, what is to be eaten isn’t the
    aristocrats who are selling this poison; it’s ‘the enemy’. (Meanwhile, America and NATO can call thugs
    like this ‘friends’ and even “members of NATO” and still call themselves supporters of ‘democracy’, a
    term that’s now devoid of meaning in the West.) This is why Western publics don’t care about the fear
    that the Russian people feel concerning the installation of America’s anti-ballistic missile systems.

    In the most fundamental sense, the concept that we are all in this together is gone, in the West. If it
    doesn’t exist in both the West and the ‘East’ (namely, in Russia, where it does exist), then a nuclear war
    is extremely likely, and the real question is: When will it be likeliest to happen?

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    The Red Line Crossed, In The Cross-Hairs,
    At Trigger Point - Waiting For the October surprise


    http://johnhelmer.net/?p=15751


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    Vladimir Putin said he knows every step Washington will be taking in regard to them, and Washington knows Russia knows, but they keep deceiving the media and they in turn pass that deception to the public.
     
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    Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!
     
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    Well, here is the deal, there is nothing new in this 6th generation fighter. Everything in this plane have been around for a very long time. Supersonic flight has been around for decades. Stealth has been around for decades. By the way, there is nothing stealthy about that design. Remote control isn't new either. It just a regurgitated version of existing platforms and technologies. Everyday, the US flies remote controlled aircraft. So, this might be a big deal for internally for Mother Russia. But certainly isn't impressive to those who live outside Russia, even if everything works.

    Below is a link to an article on the American 6th generation fighter:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth-generation_jet_fighter

    It will have laser weapons.
     
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    And your evidence is where?
     
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    I bet the Russian military is very happy to use this, having a futuristic hypersonic jet can be a pretty good propaganda piece against westerners who think that the only thing you military has is pre-1991 made military equipment and vehicles. The reason they did this is obvious though, Turkey is now keeping their radar on high alert for other Russian planes. This is most likely a responce to Turkey's attack on a Russian jet, basically Putin showing off his new toy to NATO.

    But personally, if I were in their position -and I know it sounds cocky but hear me out- I would've spent the money and resources on more short-term options. Like military modernization and strategic troop placement, not developing a superweapon like some comic book villan.
     
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    You do realize they don't nor are they even close to actually having this right? They don't even have a single 5th generation fighter yet nor are they even close to that. They are still using, as you yourself said, "pre 1991" garbage.

    - - - Updated - - -

    She never has evidence. Just blog websites.
     
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    Ummm... You DO realize that photo is satire right? They are posing for it. The big smiles on their faces and the fact that the shell is larger then the tube didn't pop any read flags up for you? You lack basic intelligence?

    You are quite possibly the most pathtic person I have ever spoken with on the Internet. Every time you open your mouth you find new ways to reach a deeper low. It is down right disgraceful and embarrising to know human beings like you actually exist.

    In what way shape or form does a mechanical failure of a vehicle reflect the skill of those who were tragically lost? You are such a dispicable pile of filth by insulting the dead as if this was a result of their training? Need I post links to every single crash or (*)(*)(*)(*) up that has resulted in loss of life in the Russian military and insult your dead? Is that the game we should play?

    Because you have nothing to say.
     

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