Russia introduces reciprocated against US sanctions

Nonsense, as usual.

 

Yes, one of the world's most Christian nations really hates a Christian head of state. That must be it.

 

Tit for tat measures are appropriate until this odd battle between Trump and the USG Deep State is over, but whenever the US bureaucracy is this eager to provoke a war it's adversaries should exercise great caution.

 

Hey, if someone paid me a handsome sum, for just living in russia for a year, hell, I would do it. Although I might be more cautious today given the insanity we see out of a neocon driven DC and foreign policy. I see this policy is the most dangerous foreign policy we have ever had.

When the US withdrew from the ABM treaty, with russia, what did anyone who has at least one foot in reality think might eventually happen? As the US supported the constant move of NATO troops and assets towards russia, looking as if we are trying to surround them, even putting missiles on some of their borders, and not aimed at Iran as the ruse we used claimed. What if russia had the ability and desire to place missiles on our northern border and southern border and placed their submarines off or our coasts, armed to the teeth with nuke tipped missiles? Just how would we react? What would americans think about this? Now how would anyone but an utter hypocrite blame russia for their actions as a response to our actions? Especially when it looks like we have lied like hell in regards to russia, to syria, where russia has their own people on the ground, being invited in by syria? While we are breaking international law by even being there?

Our war mongering and irresponsible behavior should not be acceptable to a single average americans. If they have any sense at all, they will be able to see what is going on, and we are the bad guys here. The dangerous gov't. Instead of remaining in that missile treat with russia, to give them a feeling of national security, what did we do, and why did we do it? It was a precedent setting move, and something which would have been unthinkable, due to the madness involved, during the cold war. When MAD had great effect upon our foreign policy and actions in regards to the old USSR. Our gov't flirting with disaster is in no way in the best interests of the american people. And if anyone here thinks this is not due to the neocons having the power to affect foreign policy decisions, as they tore the middle east apart, exhibiting the power of this faction, in their arrogant irresponsible madness, please have that head examined by a professional.

And it is by all appearance evidence that trump has yielded to these neocons, that he looks to be surrounded by, creating one of the greatest flip flops by trump seen since he took office. He displayed good common sense on such matters while campaigning and this is another reason he got such support, and enough to beat the sure fire winner, Hillary. He was not elected to risk a war with russia, nor to stay in syria, and certainly not to get us involved in more war mongering. He was to pull back from neocon foreign policy and rebuild america, to make her great again, if by nothing more than modernizing and rebuilding this nations infastructure, putting americans to work for years in the process.

What we and some of our allies like the UK are trying to do is to provoke russia into a war. Otherwise we would not be acting as we are. This tells me that our military industrial intel complex believes that we can actually win in MAD. That we have the ability to neutralize any nuclear attack from russia, from their subs and land based systems, and destroy them, with nukes. For if they do not believe this, have certainty in this, we are looking at genuinely insane human beings in DC, for putting the world at risk, by our actions and lies. And if me a half mis-educated american can think this, you can bet your arse that the russian gov't is also giving it some consideration. Which creates even more danger, as russia is pushed back into the corner, more each day.

And this is one reason that the ruse of russia helping trump, illegally colluding with putin, even with no evidence supporting it, has been pushed so hard by the media, democrats, and even some republicans. This really kicked this russian hysteria off, as it was used politically as well. That congress somewhat handcuffed trump in regards to working with russia on anything, only adds weight to some possible nefarious crap going on. Never allow a crisis, even a manufactured one, go away without using it to help some agenda along. I think we are seeing just that.

 

Hypothesis rejected.

Trump has been getting schooled. He can't ignore the facts now that he's president. Even if he can't be bothered to read more than a paragraph or two at a time and needs lots of big, colorful pictures to help him get it..

 

We didn't start Syria's civil war, and Russia shares at least as much responsibility in keeping it going and sending refugees your way.

I must assume that the stuff about corporate espionage is based on what Snowden revealed. Sounds like routine espionage conducted on all sides was blown out of proportion.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/11/germany-us-john-kerry-talks-espionage
... inside the White House there remains bemusement at what some officials view as an over-reaction to routine intelligence work. "What do they think their intelligence people do?" asked one US official.

 

The "arab spring" was heavily supported by USA and turned into absolute chaos.

Oh and routine intelligence work? Trying to send malware into our energy grid network is routine intelligence work? Trying to spy on our chancellor is routine intelligence work?

USA have an no spy contract with Canada, UK, Australia and New Zealand. Germany demanded such an agreement as well. Ironically USA denied such a contract with us. Why?

 

You are deceiving and not thrust worthy.
You have a president that tweets about sending rockets at a sovereign country.
You make a cirkus regarding every political event.
You meddle in other countries and blame Russia for the same

And what I personally hate the most is that you pretend to be some kind of saviour of poor civilians in the Middle East while we all know what it's about.

Russia, friend, ally or not, it does as it says, and you know where you have them.

For god sake just look at an interview with Putin, he is galaxies beyond when it comes to intelligence compared to anything you got over there.
Thing is that more and more people even here in Western Europe are finally tired of your hegemony.

And personally I don't mind a strong US, but it has to be a strong Russia/China as well. Otherwise you will act like you've done the past 20 years.

 

But Washington approves of the Saudi government. If Putin started beheading people instead of going to Church, do you think Washington would approve of him then?

This is why Soros and his liberal one world order freaks hate Vladimir Putin. They know that as long as Russia is Christian, it will never succumb to their world government. Three churches have been opening everyday in Russia for the past 30 years. It's enough to give the freaks heart attacks.

 

They did? Funny how we don't notice it.

 

Sounds like you are sad Russia no longer is in control of East Germany.

Bye the way, the only reason they are not is Uncle Sam.

 

LOL - The vatniks on this board suffer from Tiny Penis Syndrome.

BTW, welcome to the forum, Bob. Spectacular avatar you've got there.

 

Back to the OP.

Russia economic sanctions on the US are a laughably disproportionate response to US sanctions on Russia.

And despite trump's feet dragging, the US ain't done with retribution. If Putin and the kleptocracy don't clean up the act, they are going to get hurt even more. Their illegal gains stashed in real estate and financial instruments outside of russia make them rather personally vulnerable.

 

Thanks for the welcome. Thought I would pick an avatar that lets the vatniks and euro trash why the US is still the best place to live.

 

Russia is protecting the legitimate government of Syria from the terrorists that the US and others support. Are you saying that if a criminal wants to take everything that you have, and you are not allowing him to take it, then you are just as guilty? How about the Syrian people, don't they matter in this?

As for the refugees, the e mails asking them to go to Germany were not coming from Germany, they were coming from London and California. Somebody was also giving the refugees money - maybe to buy up their properties, I don't know. The Turkish human traffickers were charging each person 10 thousand dollars just to cross the Aegean. More than four thousand were crossing a day into Lesbos, Chios, Samos and Kos. So who was giving them all that money, and why?

I will tell you who. It was Saudi Arabia, that's why they were going broke. It wasn't because of the oil prices, or the war in Yemen.. The plans were, that once Syria was broken up into nation states of different faiths like the Balkans, they would be in friction with one another and remain weak. The only way to do this though, was to have them leave the country first. When they returned, they would be welcomed only in the state designated for their own faith.

Erdogan was the one who screwed the EU by shipping in migrants from the Central Asian States together with the refugees. They made money on it as well. The traffickers were giving them kick backs.
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You're welcome - glad you could join us.

Best scenery on the planet...

 

Actually it benefited Russia, in that the oligarchs who didn't pay their taxes and had illegal gain, are now asking Russia to reinstate them and they will give them what they owe. All their money is going back to Russia, or at least whatever London doesn't steal.

Anyway Russia hasn't put any sanctions on American goods, it responds in ways that will benefit Russia in the end. They stopped importing food from the EU so they could build up their own industries, which they have - and it cost the EU billions. It's a market they will never be able to recover.

The drop in the Ruble was beneficial in that it made Russia more competitive, so that they now took over the grain market from the US and Canada. Their arms industry is more advanced and far cheaper on the market, so Washington is now blackmailing nations not to buy their arms or they will be sanctioned.

Russia's LNG gas is a lot more and cheaper than the American gas, and it will all be going through Russia's northern route which is half the distance of the old one. Russia said that only Russian ships will be allowed to take that route since it's their own territorial waters, and yesterday Washington demanded that they allow other ships to use the route. Yeah right!

In the meantime China has established its own SWIFT to bypass the American dollar, and China and Russia conduct all the trade including oil and gas between them in Rubles and Yuan. Iran also bypasses the dollar, as does Venezuela. India might start bypassing it, as well as Turkey. China is the second largest consumer of gas in the world, and it is now coming from Russia. The pipes are all ready. Trump said that if they buy American gas, he won't put on any more tariffs and Xi said:

 

You want Russia to overplay its hand?

http://metalpedia.asianmetal.com/metal/titanium/resources&production.shtml

Have any other ideas?

 

FALSE NEWS ALERT!

Oh, now that's smart. Grow types of food unsuited to your climate!

Lower ruble? Putting lipstick on your pig?

FALSE NEWS ALERT!

The world doesn't need Russian gas.

This is irrelevant, but you don't you derstand why.

 

Oh, no!!!!!
What are we going to do? The US will fall apart like USSR! This is the end of western civilization! It’s time for all Americans to go to Russian embassy and apply for immigration visas!

 

Ha!
Russia is not even on the list of top producers!

 

Holy ****..
Not good.

 

It might be they're not included because they don't provide any data. The point is, however, there are plenty of sources of titanium.

 

There is no strategic material where is a critical source. Don't get too excited.

 

OK