Russian bombers fly near Alaska !

The USSR disbanded because fools believed promises.

 

In other words, you lost

 

USSR dissoluted, I remind you, because in 1977 Brejnev reformed Union into a unitary state - and in late 80th this initiative backlashed, resulting in conflict between Union government and administrations of Republics.

 

The political left in America has been doing a pretty good job ****ing America without anyone else help.

You are aware all of this wanting to restart the "Cold War" bull **** goes back to the Clinton administration.

 

Uh oh, do we have an unhinged Russian liberal here?

 

You pimply teenagers in a historical sense. Russia had moments when an army of enemies had seized the capital of Russia but it didn't help them. The Soviet generation does not wanted to fight, because they remembered the horrors of the war with the Germans. They thought that may agree with Usa. Those dreams crashed. You want a war and you will get it.

 

You went bankrupt, so yea we won, and SU was defeated in astan!

 

A-and that's a reportable insult.

 

It's true, you were bankrupted.

 

First of all, not RSFSR - USSR, second - it happened on background of governmental crisis, third - process of dissolution started in 1989, way before bancrupcy - for reason that I already presented - unification of USSR in singular state was a mistake and created tensions between government and republic administrations.

Obviously, Union had other problems - this is why Gorbachev's reforms started. Yet - they ended with dissolution of Union. That does not means any sort of victory or loss, since Belarus, Ukraine and Russian Federation - states, that formed first Soviet Union and disbanded it's last form - still stand and stand pretty much on their own, even Ukraine, I am fairly sure, will get rid of the untrustworthy, unprofessional and negligent oligarch that been elected after the coup and will - through efforts of people - reinstall an independent democracy, able to stand for itself and negotiate with neighbours as a civilized, modern country - not as a virtual colony of USA.

 

nope, the political seeds were sown decades before; If you read any history of the soviet union you would know there were political factions within the CPSU that helped in its own demise

the "we" **** is laughable , almost like yelling USA USA USA.. real low IQ stuff

 

Afghanistan was the graveyard of your "empire" also, adding to the bankruptcy. I find it amusing how the Russians always come up with some "excuse" for the crumbling of their former prison.

 

This happened regularly close to British airspace, back in the Cold War days. Lightnings were sent up to intercept, pilots waved at each other, and went their separate ways after gently escorying the Bears away.
Don't panic.

 

And I find it amusing how people mistake xenopatriotism for liberalism. My county is definitely spectacular, and in the future - it will be a jewel of the planet. Gnaw your elbows.

Also, the thought of the sweet disappointment, when you will see all your today's efforts swept under the rug and forgotten.. Ah! I love dealing with cheap propagandists!

 

At first I was offended to see some of folks from that forum, literaly, being even born on a same planet as me, but seriously - they are like toothless dogs. No offence - they're harmless. Maybe it's because they lost their moment - or maybe these repetitive statements always were so weak. But seriously, after couple months on that forum I am not worrying for the future anymore - despite how dirty politics are - people are smarter, than I thought.

And just because of fantastic mood I am in right now - sorry for offtopic, by the way - sharing a bit of good music. Ah, nostalgia..! Ah, where are my eleven years..!


So from now on - I guess no bickering from me. I am not that kind of sadist after all, to kick a doomed cause, and pretty much can direct my efforts on making my personal life better and working on improvement of my country. And eventually, hopefully - enlightening neighbours, if needed. After all, I got friends in these countries, I want a better and safe life for them.

 

Why would I chew my elbows? I live well, I live in a house bought and paid for. And you, where do you live, in some "apartment". Why would I be disappointed, and what efforts are you talking about, I merely pointed out that you were bankrupted, but you went on about some sort of "restructuring"? Is that some code speak for butthurt or something?

 

So having no jet engines makes you thinking that they are nothing worth? O dear ... but forget it, I know that you are so self convinced about the own forces and equipment that nothing is bale to match it on this planet.

 

Yes! Obama was a great President. He introduced Obamacare = large budget expenditures. From 1 to 3 trillion a year and about 6 million jobs. Now the Republicans want to destroy it to reduce the budget deficit, but it must be destroyed 2 to 4 million jobs. +10 trillion debt! Good job. The fun begins if rates debt overcome 3%.

 

Reagan won the cold war by measures including but not limited to; ARMING IRAN, paying tons of dollars to NGOs to create and flame opposition in Russia to weaken Soviet system from within, by ARMING TALIBAN and other Mujahideen groups in Afghanistan, by hiring coup plotters in different regions where Soviet influence was increasing and so on..!
Just an honest question to get some information: How did Obama start the cold war numero duo? By withdrawing from Middle East? By ignoring the annexation of Crimea? By not doing anything to the Chinese island building? By getting "buzzed" all over in the Black Sea? By reducing "military spending"? By letting Russian agents in the country to enable the manipulation of elections? Come on dude, you know better than that.

 

Afghanistan intervention for the US was definitely a "strategic" move and I don't know how they would have ended up with hadn't those military bases established in there while Putin's Russia already started its strong power expansion in 2001 and looking for allies like Iran. No need to mention "OPIUM" fields... I assure you, the US wouldn't even make it beyond Middle East if they haven't invaded Afghanistan. I agree with the rest of your post.

Ninian is Russian. So it's just all too normal that NATO is pointless to him. What kind of a Russian would want such union exists against Russian interests? Same with me, as a Turkish patriot, NATO is pointless, useless and moreover, harmful. But how bout you? NATO "is not" pointless to Americans. Ask American strategists, they tell you that without NATO they would not have credible intimidation against Eurasian powers, and also wouldn't have no protection. I'm not going to list the advantages of NATO to the US here, but still, one should be able to see at least the fact that by gathering the most strongest armies of the Western hemisphere under such an umbrella organization, the potential Eurasian influence toward European states in an attempt to isolate the US is somehow being limited ! Though even so, we see Russian influence all over European states in political stages, and over some EU/NATO members militarily.

Do you think the issue with the migrants would have been this big hadn't Kremlin implemented this smart of a strategy? It has become a tool to threaten the West. And this happened despite NATO-EU kind of military and political unions' existences because the migrants are part of what the US has been struggling to deal with: A ""gray zone strategy"". Although the refugee influx "IS" a political issue, NATO however later "had to" be involved in to prevent the influx becoming more useful of a tool directed at the west. Via "okaying" Greece's illegal occupation of islands in the Aegean (about 152 islands and islets that are "REGISTERED" as Turkiye's property), and "ordering" Greece to build "illegal" military bases on those islands, NATO "happened" to have "legal grounds" to "doc" all over the Aegean to bloc refugee xings. Of course, Turkiye's patriotic powers by pushing Erdogan to side with Eurasia, they help Russia to use migrants to trouble the west. In other words, we just told the EU; "Okay, so you want one world government, a global society, global economical and political system without no boundaries? Here, integrate these you motherfackers". Simple as that And, when Turkiye is off of that muddy NATO path it's been on since 50s -believe me we definitely will be soon- then the west will have to show some respect to Eurasia to find "common grounds"!

 

Reagan armed Iran ? A really smart Marine Corps Lt. Col. came up with a scam to be able to get around the "Boland Amendment" so America could continue fighting the Cold War in Central America by arming the Contras. It just not pissed off liberal Democrats but also the Soviet Union.

It wasn't Reagan but a liberal Democrat, Congressman Charley Wilson (D) who was behind getting the Democrats in Congress to arm the Mujahideen.

There was no Taliban during the 1980's, the Taliban was founded during the 1990's by Pakistan intelligence services.

You make Obama out being a really incompetent President.

You're right, Obama is just a community organizer who agitates, causes trouble and divides society. That's what community organizers do

 

I will say Reagan is our best president ever.

 

Jamiat Ulema e Islam was warring along side anti-Soviet Paki generals during Soviet-Afghan war. I don't think I need to mention groups from Jamiat formed Taliban. So don't you try to divert what I said.

As for the Irangate:

 

PAKISTAN’S SUPPORT FOR SURVIVAL AND REVIVAL OF THE TALIBAN


Pakistan has been intimately associated with the Taliban since its birth in the mid-1990s. The ISI provided support to Mullah Omar when he founded the organisation in Kandahar. It had trained Omar even earlier in the 1980s at one of its training camps for the mujahedin that fought the Soviet occupation of the country. Pakistan was one of only three countries that recognised the Taliban’s Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan as the legitimate government of Afghanistan in the late 1990s (Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were the other two). By 2001, Pakistan was providing the Taliban regime in Kabul with hundreds of advisers and experts to run its tanks, aircraft and artillery, thousands of Pakistani Pashtuns to man its infantry and small units of its Special Services Group commandoes to help in combat with the Northern Alliance. Pakistan provided the oil needed to run the Taliban’s war machine. All of this despite a half dozen United Nations Security Council resolutions calling on all countries to cease aid to the Taliban because it was hosting al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. According to the 9/11 Commission, the ISI had mid-wifed the alliance between Mullah Omar and bin Laden, so it was no surprise that Pakistan ignored the UN... continue -> https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/pakistan-taliban-and-the-afghan-quagmire/


The ISI and Terrorism: -> http://www.cfr.org/pakistan/isi-terrorism-behind-accusations/p11644