Rusty Bowers, Witness on a Central Charge of Trump Indictment, Speaks Out

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Where's the proof?

    It's been three years.

    Wasn't Trump supposed to make them public this summer?

    Cricket....
     
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    We can't get the proof because the democrats refuse to allow us to do an SV audit. They even sued to stop it. Why? Because they know that's the only way to prove their fraud.

    Like I said just because the mafia stonewalls an investigation doesn't mean they didn't commit a crime.
     
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    LoL

    There was an audit in Arizona.

    What was the result?

    There was also one in Georgia + 2 recounts.

    What were the results?

    What's fascinating about conspiracy theorists is that when they can't find proof for what they claim, it's because the crime is too well hidden....
     
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    The audit in Arizona was sued by the democrats because they were going to do an SV audit. The democrats said you can do ANYTHING you'd like to do EXCEPT for an SV audit. If you try to do an SV audit we will sue you. And they did.

    Why? Because an SV audit is the ONLY way to find the type of fraud they committed.
     
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    And how does a recount identify fraudulent ballots?
     
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    I'll give you a hand.

    On September 23, 2021, Maricopa County claimed that the report from the audit would show that Biden had indeed won the county.[104] The New York Times has reported that draft versions of the report it had seen showed Biden to have won slightly more votes and Trump to have won slightly fewer than the official count had.[105]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Maricopa_County_presidential_ballot_audit
     
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    wtf are you talking about bro? All that is, is a recount. How does a recount find fraudulent ballots?
     
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    There was an audit.

    But you've already got an excuse ready: if you don't have a shred of proof, it's because the dems are preventing you from exposing the terrible truth....
     
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    It's not an excuse. It's a fact. There is only one way to identify fraudulent ballots introduced into the count. That is with a signature verification audit of one full county.

    If you know of another way then by all means, tell us what it is.

    Don't worry. I'll wait.
     
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    On election night, Trump claimed he had lost because of massive fraud.

    Where's the proof?

    Trump sent his lawyers to be destroyed in court 59 times.
     
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    How do you find fraudulent ballots introduced into the count without a signature verification audit of one full county?
     
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    I'll repeat it one last time.

    From election night, Trump claimed there was massive fraud in many states.

    Where is the evidence?

    There aren't any.

    Nothing has been found for 3 years....
     
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    Bruh. I'm not sure what part of this you don't understand. In fact I think you understand it perfectly well you're just being obtuse. But just in case you need help with an explanation I will give you one.

    1) The assertion is the democrats cheated by introducing fraudulent ballots into the count.

    2) The only way to find fraudulent ballots introduced into the count is through an SV audit of one full county.

    3) The democrats fought tooth and nail to deny any attempt at an sv audit of one county including suing the group attempting to do one telling them they can do anything they want EXCEPT an SV audit.

    4) If the only way to tell if fraudulent ballots have been introduced into the count is an SV audit and the democrats have stonewalled any attempts at an SV audit, then it logically follows the reason that the evidence hasn't been found is because the democrats refuse to allow us to engage in the only process which will find those fraudulent ballots.
     
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    Since when, in this country, do we have the right to accuse people without the slightest proof?

    Where does Trump's assertion come from?

    What are the elements that allow him to make such accusations?

    Nothing.

    The only thing, in fact, is that Trump refuses to accept defeat, and has sought to retain power illegally.

    The rest of your argument is pure speculation.
     
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    We don't need proof to make sure our vote wasn't defrauded. Thats the right of every American citizen. Why do you have a problem with an SV audit of one full county? What's the problem?

    Thats the whole point of an audit. To make sure the system is functioning properly. What's the problem?
     
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    And btw in case you weren't paying attention we just had a clown accuse a presidential candidate of rape and sexual assault with absolutely zero evidence whatsoever much less PROOF and won.
     
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    Stop at number 1). That’s a bare assertion. There’s no evidence of that happening. None.

    There’s no need to investigate if there’s no underlying basis to launch an investigation. There has to be a reason to investigate beyond a bare assertion.
     
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    All states have policies and procedures in place to protect against fraud. There are observers from the parties.

    All the evidence confirms the election was free and fair. Trump’s own administration confirmed it as the cleanest election in the nation’s history.
     
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    Then what's the problem with an SV audit? I would under NO circumstances refuse an sv audit. I can't think of a SINGLE reason I would refuse an SV audit of our elections regardless of if my side won or lost. The ONLY reason I can see that I would refuse one is if I was concerned my side did actually cheat. Then I might. But otherwise I see no reason to refuse an SV audit.

    Maybe you can provide one.

    In fact I think it should be mandatory that we pick say 6 large counties (3 dem and 3 rep) from swing states in every election to randomly choose to be SV audited.
     
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    Or even better, each party dem and rep gets 3 counties they get to choose to be audited in every presidential election. They don't have to exercise that right if they don't want to but they have it if they need it. Because this "we only investigate if we have proof" bullshit COMPLETELY undermines the point of an audit.

    The ENTIRE point of an audit is to investigate in order to find proof of wrong doing or to identify potential points of failure in the system. If you've already got the proof or you've already identified the point of failure then an audit is COMPLETELY unnecessary. Thats what the audit is FOR!
     
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    But yall already know that. You just don't care cause if you cheated then the ends justifies the means for you.

    "Meh maybe we cheated and maybe we didn't but either way Trumps not in office so we just aren't going to look."

    But when it's our turn to tell you that we don't investigate without proof I bet you'll remember how ****ed up that is then lol Especially if, God willing, it's Trump telling you that lol
     
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    Sure there’s a reason. Unnecessary cost.

    With literally zero evidence of these things happening, there’s no justification.
     
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    I doubt you see alot of that at all
     
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    Sure bro that's the reason. A couple million dollars from our multi trilluon dollar budget to ensure free and fair elections. Thats why. Lol
     
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    You can’t even show that he actually is a billionaire. Have you seen his certified financials ?

    I bet he actually has a negative net worth. That’s why he won’t release tax returns and any other data.
     
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