Sad Irony

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    It's what happens when you vote against your interests. As the Trumpers would say, "Get a job and pay your own damn bills!"
     
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    Ummm... sounds like he IS trying to pay his own bill. If this had been a Democrat, he would have been screeching about how unfair it is the government doesn't just pay for his healthcare. What would help in this country would be an impartial 3rd party health insurance overseer, who could decide whether the insurance company was right or wrong in denying coverage.
     
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    Ummm... sounds like he IS trying to pay his own bill perhaps because his president failed to keep his promise to replace Obama care.
     
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    One smart person selling this before the price bottoms out
     
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    The Democrats stopped him.
     
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    How did they do that when he had a repub Senate and Congress? Check your facts.
     
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    Obviously by not breaking into their closed door no Democrats allowed sessions where they failed to come up with anything that could possibly get them reelected.
     
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    I think you missed the part where he said he had insurance but the company denied his claim. He wouldn't have been on Trumpcare, anyway.
     
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    He would have been under the full Obama care. They didn't deny his claim, they denied that he was still insured under his father's insurance.
     
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    That's a bit like saying Trump failed to build the wall, when democrats blocked it in every possible way. Obstacles aren't accomplishments- they are just obstacles. No credit due those who simply stand in the way without better ideas, they are detrimental to society- and they have earned the blame.
     
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    That's like?? His building the wall was only half of it, wasn't it? The other half was that Mexico was going to pay for it, wasn't it? Hell yes the Democrats tried to block his spending the money for the wall when all the people who knew what they were talking about said it was not the thing to do. Someone has to be responsible and it sure as hell hasn't been trump's dog pound.
     
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    Trump is a negotiator, a dealer- a player in the game with few equals. But a president in not in total control in this nation, nor can a president write legislation- only congress can do that. IF Trump had broad congressional support for his goals, it would not be hard at all to negotiate terms of trade and interaction that would indeed have Mexico paying for it. I never heard Trump say Mexico was going to write a check, but that isn't necessary. As the old saying goes, there is more than one way to skin a cat, and you can bet Trump is capable of doing it. The dems only skin themselves, and would give Mexico whatever they asked for.

    Amazing how the same people who are building the roadblocks and destroying the bridges then blame the bus driver for not reaching his destination.
     
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    Actually, opposition to funding the wall got bipartisan support. One of the few things both sides of the aisle agreed on so don't go blaming the democrats for this one.
     
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    *LOL*

    He's incompetent. Demonstrably so.
     
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    If it wasn't so sad it would be comical how trump supporters conveniently overlook that period of time when trump had a republican house and senate and didn't seem to get a damn thing accomplished. At least when the mid-terms gave Congress to the Democrats trump and his base could finally use the Democrats as an excuse for trump not being able to do anything constructive.

    And, you say trump is a negotiator. If you believe that you haven't been paying attention. I forget now the number of times he's been involved in a civil suite (somewhere around a hundred) that were opportunities for him to use his negotiating skill and he wasn't capable. He's a bully and his recent failures at negotiating are evidence he has no idea what the word means.
     
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    I don't know the full story, only the picture, but he doesn't say he was denied under his father's insurance, he says he was denied under his own insurance. And since he wasn't covered under Obamacare, either, I don't see how you could say he would have been covered under Trumpcare. As we say in the law, assumes facts not in evidence.
     
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    As we say in the real world read his sign. His coverage on his father's insurance.
     
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    You're remembering the pre-Trump democrats who were in favor of it years before Trump was in favor of it. It would kill them to cooperate with Trump, and anyone watching the news regarding the border knows that.
     
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    If what he's done is incompetence, then Obama was a drooling imbecile.
     
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    Surely you don't think that negotiating always means pleasing everyone? No. It means beating them. Winning for your side, instead of giving your company (or nation) away.
     
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    Not that far back. I'm remembering the spending bill that passed unanimously without wall money that shut the government down over Trump's hissy fit. Followed by trump then detouring military funds because Congress still wouldn't give him money for his vanity wall.
     
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    Not that far back. I'm remembering the spending bill that passed unanimously without wall money that shut the government down over Trump's hissy fit. Followed by trump then detouring military funds because Congress still wouldn't give him money for his vanity wall.
     
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    Funny how everything the dems do is Trump's fault. Getting tired of that one.

    None the less- even by your own statements, Trump has been trying to build the wall, and keep his promise. I can't remember when a president cared much about that.
    The wall is in my opinion a necessity. Not an anti-immigration thing- but due to the disregard of our laws and disrespect or our border a necessary one, required for us to be able to control the process.
     
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    Read my lips. Unanimous vote means ALL of the Democrats, ALL of the Independents and ALL of the Republicans in the Republican led senate voted for the budget bill that prompted Trump to shut down the government because while providing an additional $5 billion for border security there was no money for his vanity wall.
    It's not getting funded by Congress because it is a useless item if you want to improve border security. By Home Land Security's own calculations only an estimated 6% of Illegals come through places where the wall would be extended and virtually no drugs. Wasting money on a useless wall would be like putting 10 guys in pass protection against an offensive tackle because sometimes he's eligible. PUT THE MONEY WHERE THE PROBLEM IS. Official entry points and sea routes. That's where congress budgeted the money and that's where it belongs. Trump want's the wall not for security since it clearly won't do jack for security but so he can have something concrete that people will call "Trump's" wall. Vanity pure and simple at the expense of our taxpayers and the military.
     
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    If you listen to CNN, MSNBC and the like- there are no illegals crossing the border. There is no crisis, no invasion, and the caravans of 2000 and up are just tourists seeing Mexico. But of course the overloaded processing facilities and huge backlog of people using Obama's loopholes to get in are all being treated horribly like they were prison camps. This is the same issue shifting from black to white when politically convenient, and that is pure BS. IF you can't come to terms with reality, won't recognize and identify the obvious facts, you are simply making noise and hampering solutions. Such people do not have considered opinions, are not acting in good faith- and simply make the job more difficult. That deserves no cred at all. 22 million illegals is the USA now, but somehow- it's not happening.

    You don't have to be too smart to know that people who want to come in undetected aren't knocking on the door- they are just walking into your back yard in the dark. So building bigger entry ports won't do a damn thing to control illegals, any more than a larger front door on your house would keep such people from sneaking into your back yard.. The majority of people in congress live behind good fences- and they choose to do that to prevent unauthorized people from entering their property. True all over the nation, and it works. A small fence says "private property". A big fence says "Stay the hell out". A bigger fence with teeth conveys a message like this-

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    The wall isn't impermeable, no obstacle is- but it is one hell of a deterrent, and where existing walls stand, they have been very effective. ElPaso's illegal entries dropped around 90% when they put up 18 miles of wall. No question they work, and would greatly decrease the load on border patrol, allowing them to be far more efficient.

    The ability to recognize facts equally and reason based on them depends on a person's will to accept reality- anyone can deny obvious facts to avoid admitting a point. Children do it all the time. Adult children do it all the time. Mature men and women of good character DO NOT do it. Because that is not being of a different opinion, it is not helping solve problems, it is choosing to deceive yourself- and that invariably leads to bad decisions.
     

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