Sally Kohn wants straight daughter to be gay

Doesn't stop the freak from trying.

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Your denial is not my problem.

Sure they did. Anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

See above.

 

What makes her a freak? My parents did the same thing. Was I abused?

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What am I denying?

Explain how it is abusive.

 

Yep, my words and I stand by them, I did not state you would do something, I simply said I would find it difficult to believe you wouldn't, that is not an insinuation merely a comment on my own beliefs.

What you post, for all I know, could have little to no bearing on what you would do .. words are cheap don't you know.

Who is talking about averages here, only you it seems, you simply do not know the time frame involved to try and manufacture one is simply dishonest

Lets assume for a minute that you are correct, and that what ever went on did so for two years, can a 7 to 9 year old be an abuser, do they even have the mental capacity to understand what they are doing, especially if the parents have set no boundaries?

simple to say, yet you are not proving it, and if there was no arguing about it we wouldn't be here . .well.. arguing about it.

You can give your opinion on it, interpret it how ever you like, that still doesn't make your assumptions any more correct.

 

Sally is trying to make her straight daughter gay.

More anecdotal claims?

You're denying the emotional abuse heaped on a child by some freak trying to change that girls sexual orientation.

 

I did read it, though little in it was relevant to the topic. BTW cherry picking someone's comment to suit yourself is dishonest.

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you know you won't get a straight answer don't you?

 

I understand that, you really don't need to keep repeating it. Repeating it over and over doesn't explain anything.

Why do you think this is abusive?

Is it abusive when other people do the same thing?

I'm not denying it, I'm just asking you to prove it's there. If it is abusive, it should stop. Explain why you think it's abusive.

Otherwise, I hate to repeat myself, but the conversation has ground to a halt waiting on you to rationalize your opinion. I don't mean to your standard, that's anecdotal, I mean objectively and critically rationalize your opinion.

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I put him on the fire to watch him squirm.

 

Did you molest your younger sister repeatedly? Do you know anyone that did molest their siblings repeatedly? That is NOT normal behavior in any family......EVER. Once again. It was REPEATED BEHAVIOR OVER TIME. This isn't just playing doctor or the "show me game". By her own admission its manipulitive and coerced. She is a sociopathic sexual molestor.

 

Imagined manipulation is not actual manipulation.

If it's your claim that it is manipulation, the burden of proof is on you.

 

You're not getting the point.

Asked and answered

Yes.

Again. asked and answered.

Then ignore me.

Says the squimer who keeps asking the same lame questions after getting the answer.

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Sally is manipulating and abusing her child. Stop defending it.

 

The comments were accurate. And it is relevant no matter how uncomfortable it makes you.

 

Actually she already provided it. She said it was the same behavior a sexual predator would use. She provided the ammo to shoot her with and is complaining about what SHE wrote. She was a child molestor who repeatedly manipulated her sister by telling her bad news ie grandparents death specifically to elicit a response that got her jollies off. She is a disgusting and horrible person.

 

You are entitled to your opinion based on assumptions all you like, still doesn't change anything.

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Uncomfortable I just find it amusing that you make such assumptions based on what you desire to be true instead of what is true.

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You evaded answering the question in my previous comment, perhaps you would care to attempt an answer

Lets assume for a minute that you are correct, and that what ever went on did so for two years, can a 7 to 9 year old be an abuser, do they even have the mental capacity to understand what they are doing, especially if the parents have set no boundaries?

 

Unsupported claims aren't answered to my question.

Not until you are fully discredited as somebody who cannot support his claims.

I haven't gotten an answer. Just unsupported claims from somebody that doesn't have any expertise in the subject.

I'm not defending it, I'm asking you to prove it. Stop misrepresenting my argument in hopes to get me to let you out of the corner you backed yourself into.

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I thought this was about her daughter.

 

Fugazi and I got sidetracked with Lena Dunham. I thought that is what you were referring to. The Dunham thing has run its course anyways, now its just blowing into the wind.

 

That I'm not aware of, I apologize for butting in.

 

No problem. We were just talking past each other anyways.

 

She doesn't want to be gay but her freak mommy wants her to. Prove me wrong.

 

From the article:

When my daughter plays house with her stuffed koala bears as the mom and dad, we gently remind her that they could be a dad and dad. Sometimes she changes her narrative. Sometimes she doesn’t. It’s her choice,” Kohn continues. “All I ultimately care about is that she has the choice and that whatever choice she makes is enthusiastically embraced and celebrated.”

Note the bit where Kohn says it's her daughter's choice. I see nothing wrong there.

 

She is against being gay.

 

Yet again not wanting to be gay herself, is not anti-gay. Not a hard concept there MOD EDIT - Rule 3

 

Yet Sally says she surrounds her daughter with things that do not represent the non-traditional family. And the fact that Sally thinks sexual orientation is a choice flies in the face of conventional wisdom. It seems Sally is of the opinion that she can change her daughter's mind.

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I'm not your son and prove anyone in this thread has been anti gay using your POV.

 

no different to any other family who would surround their children with things they consider to be relevant to how they want their child to grow up. I can bet that if you have a child you don't provide literature on non-traditional families but stick exclusively to literature that portrays a traditional family, so by your logic you would also be abusing them.

What Sally thinks is up to her .. I really don't get these conservative types, they scream blue murder if a school wants to teach about contraception and homosexuality saying it is infringing on their parental rights as to how their children are taught and raised, yet when a lesbian woman does exactly what they are doing its abuse .. hypocrites to the core.

 

Where did you read that? Sally said she presents her daughter with the opportunity to create an imaginary family with same sex OR opposite sex parents. The choice isn't one of personal sexual orientation, it's a choice of what sort of dollhouse family to construct. Sexual orientation is not a choice.

I suppose it's unusual to allow a child to construct multiple different imaginary family scenarios. Nobody's orientation will change, however.

 

Made it up.

 

She's hoping it will have an effect on her daughter's orientation, which is stupid of her, because it won't. It won't do any harm, though.





I'm not your son and prove anyone in this thread has been anti gay using your POV.[/QUOTE]