Sanctions Against Russia Is Fully Fledged Economic War- Medvedev

Surely you are not as daft as your comment represents. It indicates that your political disposition forces you to believe an individual you do not like is capable of exporting industry and business overseas, essentially deporting factories and workers.

 

Rather than be led into conspiracy theory and overly active imagined strangeness, I bid you good day

 

Backwards reasoning will get you nowhere. If this is the level you truly think on your opinion is worthless.

 

You may want to rethink your example - but I suppose that would have required thinking in the first place.

Greece, prog, is a financial disaster.

 

Congress's abridged powers are to make laws as a Congressional body. It has no power over foreign policy affairs. That's the purpose behind the separation of the executive and the legislature. Otherwise, might as well have made the legislature the executive. I even gave you a left-leaning link.

This constitutional abuse of power is GROSS. And by no means, no matter who is President gives the actors in Congress the right to violate our laws.

 

Why are the Democrats and the left trying to push us into a war with Russia? Were they not the ones saying you can't Trust Trump with nuclear weapons and now they want to push a nuclear power such as Russia into a corner? What is worse is that Republican politicians support this crap too.

We need a new party and we need it now. Trump is a decent president but the Republicans in my opinion don't deserve to have power nor do the Democrats and liberals. It makes no sense to have these sanctions. Not every Russian is evil and they are all being punished because of Putin. We are supposed to be a christian nation that cares about everyone but it seems politicians only care about themselves. This is a load of crap.

 

What body declares war on a foreign nations under our constitution?

The ultimate foreign affair.

 

Are you rooting for war?

 

Absolutely spot on, and I believe the penny is at last beginning to drop that the American public is being manipulated big-time, not only by the elitists but the globalists as well. In fact I'm fully convinced that quite a few PF members are hard at it every day on this very messageboard. We in the UK are being subtly manipulated too, as a matter of fact, but in our case the penny hasn't dropped.

 

Are you avoiding the actual point?

 

Are you really for a war with Russia? How do you think that will end for everyone? Are you that excited to see a nuke up close and personal?

 

Whats with all this accusation of warmongering to avoid discussing the problems with Trump? I have NEVER even hinted such a thing and saying I did is insulting and pathetic.

Your words taste rather foul.

 

What has he been bought and paid for? Signing sanctions against Russia

 

Not a single inch of Russian territory has been encroached. Who puts these silly ideas in your head?

 

Yeah, and you see what's happening to Greece as they give up their traditions to the liberal globalism. It will only get worse.

Look this has nothing to do with homosexuality, and everything to do with a group trying to impose what they want on the rest of society. Do you consider that freedom? I don't! I consider it tyranny.

As it stands now, my family feels closer to the Turks than to the Greeks, even though they have been going there all their lives. Now that should make Goody happy.

 

Only because Moscow hasn't allowed Washington to encroach on its territory, but they have had a hard time keeping Nato away from their border... waiting for the opportunity to pounce. Kiev comes to mind.

One thing is certain though, with Congress' actions, there is no way that anyone, even the most liberal in Russia will ever trust the US in anything. Also with the excessive amount of diplomats/CIA agents that have now been kicked out, it's going to be pretty hard for Washington to commit subversive actions to split up the Federation.

 

Much of the bill that was passed and Trump was forced to sign is unconstitutional and will be taken to the Supreme Court. Trump's lawyers are taking a good look at it, so the fat lady hasn't sung yet.

What Congress has done is ruin the relationship with Russia for good... and its to our detriment. One has only to consider the situation as it is now in Syria as well as Ukraine to realize how dangerous the world has become. As they say; 'when the dialogue stops, the bombs start.'

For PM Medvedev, who many consider a closet Atlantacist to say that it will take decades to better relations, should be an eye opener to anyone with a bit of sense.

As for Russia, it won't hurt them as much as Europe. If Germany is forced to buy American gas at a higher price, it will accentuate the death throes of the EU. Many of the EU nations are leaning towards Russia now as it is.

 

You don't need to. You just need to stick to your own business and leave others alone. I think most of the countries you have "helped" would say the same.

 

Not a first bunch of bureaucrats that my nation will outlive.

 

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There is a whole lot of things Russia can do. This is really not a pissing contest we want to get into and it is already a pissing contest we are losing. France, Germany and other EU nations have already spoken out harshly against this latest US move - essentially giving us the bird.

That is not good. The US sanctions will not have much teeth without the EU on board - and they are not.

All this then does is create a bit of a chasm between the US and the EU ... this is not in our short or long term interest.

Perhaps our clown car congress sees the hacking as an issue but, the rest of the world does not.

1) US, Russia, and every other first world nation on the planet spy on each other all the time. Sure we do not like it but - we do it too - even to our allies. It is not like we are sanctioning China for spying on us which makes this hypocrisy.

2) The idea that this spying (hacking in this case which is how much spying is done these days) "HURT" our electoral process is a false narrative. I have yet to have anyone (or hear anyone) explain how exactly the voters knowing "the TRUTH" harmed our election?

Sure we do not like it when other nations spy on us but, the TRUTH did not harm our election. It is not like Russia was spreading propaganda like the US does when it meddles in the elections of other countries. (This is assuming Russia even did it which is far from an open and shut case - something like 4 out of 17 intelligence agencies say "it was Russia" ... why do the other 13 dissent ?)

Regardless... the justification for sanctions is a crock of nonsense and we are once again acting like clowns on the world stage. While this is not unusual, our allies do not normally call us out on our clown show.

This time they have.

 

In fact, sanctions are a soap bubble. Of course they will hit hard on the EU, but for Russia they are only for profit. For example.

1. The BBC compares the new sanctions with those already in place. In particular, the draft law No. 3364 extends the restrictions on the supply of goods, services and technologies needed to implement new (old not affected) projects to develop new (!) Deep-sea oil fields, as well as deposits in the Arctic and shale mining. It is no accident that against the expansion of sanctions, according to the Wall Street Journal, were ExxonMobil and Chevron. They will have losses.

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Analysts at Bank of America, Merrill Lynch note that over the past 5-6 years, American and European companies have invested about $ 100 billion to develop fields in Eastern Siberia, the Caspian and elsewhere. It is these deposits that are now beginning to work and are replacing the drying out deposits in Western Siberia and the Urals.
It is now more important for Russia to maintain a normal level of world prices than the development of new deposits.

3.
According to the Egyptian publicist Imad Annan, set forth in the Arabic newspaper NoonPost, that Saudi Arabia, together with the Americans, deliberately knocked down oil prices to the lowest possible level to bring down the Russian economy. The calculation was as follows: Russia - a colossus on oil legs - will collapse (especially under sanctions) and help Syria can not.

But Russia has not collapsed, IGIL is almost destroyed, Assad still rules Syria. And for some reason Norway and Saudi Arabia were blown away, for them $ 25 per barrel was even more ruinous than for Russia. And in the end, OPEC reduced production: made a decision, against which, at the instigation of the administration of Barack Obama, Saudi Arabia was speaking.

The price above $ 45 per barrel allows Russia to maintain production at a maximum of 530 million tons, at least 300 million tons (with a potential resource of 700 million tons of oil per year) and do not worry about increasing production. Moreover, in an excessively high level, there is no economic sense.

4. As for the third, it is believed, the most painful restriction - the ban on lending to Russian banks for periods exceeding 14 days, and for oil and gas companies - up to 30 days, here, as in the earlier sanctions, the restriction is imposed on US financial institutions. In other words, the law allows Trump to prohibit American citizens or companies from lending to Russian borrowers for a period longer than the established one. But financing from American banks in Russia is less popular than from European, Asian or offshore banks. Therefore it also does not matter.

If we talk about the negative consequences of sanctions for the US and the EU.

1. Iran about tighten sanctions: nuclear deal broken. And now it is much more unpleasant for the US than before. Now Iran can rely on Russia and China. Therefore, the losing party is the USA.

2. The EU and the US are in a tight confrontation after American sanctions.

3. China is tightening its rhetoric against the United States. In fact, China is now considering the US as a potential aggressor. Therefore, China has moved closer to Russia and is ready to conclude a military alliance. Just like the Philippine president is ready for this.

4. Russia has a free hand. There is nothing more to frighten Russia. Therefore, Russians can do whatever they want. And this is a big problem for the United States.

 

Putin is dangerous?

It appears to me that the US Congress is dangerous. It is the US under the last 3 administrations that routinely practices military aggression as it pleases and under fraud. It is the US that overthrows legitimately elected governments around the world.

Who is dangerous?

 

They don't seem to understand that. It's like American memory is wiped clean after every election. "format c: /q"
Somehow an excuse is found every time and they believe it blindly. I would respect them more if they just said, we like to plunder the world and kill people to uphold our own living standards. It's only fair

 

And the more Congress antagonises Russia the more servile they'll have to be when they have to eventually crawl to Putin to beg his help in fighting off radical Islam when it kicks off - which will be soon because all the signs are good for them right now. Obviously US politicians are so neurotically obsessed with this 'Russian hacking' crap they've lost all sense of direction because of it, not to mention credibility as well. As I've said - the United States has a death wish.