Sanders to launch bid for president Thursday!

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  1. ORION83

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    My avatar should tell you my opinion of this.
     
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    Great...Sanders can pontificate on how well Socialism is working across the globe. He should do great in the debates. :roflol:
     
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    You hate communism..great I do as well so when you find a communist candidate that's running let me know! We can bash him together! :) Thanks!

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    Democratic Socialism....look it up. Learn what it is. Thanks! You repubs have no problem with socialism as long as its WAR WAR WAR!
     
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    So you oppose cultural Marxism, yet you're a fan of Democratic Socialism? That's interesting. I don't think I've ever seen that.
     
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    Sanders has thrown his hat into the ring for one reason and one reason only...to force the conversation in the direction it needs to go. He will pull out all the stops without the usual rhetoric, typical stumping and pandering that the we can expect from the garden variety corporate owned candidate and POTUS wannabe. No lobbyist or self-serving billionaire has their hands up Senator Sander's ass pulling the strings.
     
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    Screw Sanders and every single one of his supporters. Then, once he's screwed maybe he will give his supporters the good fisting they deserve.

    But now for some levity.

    I'm sure he'll get SOMEONE'S vote.

    [video=youtube;O6PdecBn2no]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=O6PdecBn2no[/video]

    Stupid witch.
     
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    So the loser from one of the more challenged States in the Union is going to try to tell us how his failed policies should impact the Nation. Here's the thing though: They may try to pull an Obama on us. They may try to pull up Sanders as a reformer, and try to invoke the same 2008 image of "Hope and change". Here's the thing though: To truly rally against the Establishment, they'd have to rally against Hillary Clinton, which in turn is to rally against that very image of the President's.

    In other words, for the Far Left to win three elections in a row, they have to tear down their own image and rebuild it again. Something they're ideologically OPPOSED to doing. They can tear down infrastructures, but their own? Too hypocritical, and Independents and Conservatives will see through it.

    If an ideological candidate runs to the left in the Primaries, even if he wins, he'll lose the General. They cannot win back centrists and independents, damage has been done too much. The Dems are sunk for 2016 no matter what they throw at that sink. They should've thought about this, in being a little bit far less Left.

    Steve Israel's proclamation that the party won't change, may be the party's unseating as they deluded themselves to thinking that because mid-term attendance was low, that their voting bloc was still strong. Not as strong as they think, as even Mitt Romney made inroads back in 2012. Just not enough inroads.
     
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    It's a slower process for some, than for others. He believes that Democratic Socialism(hint: the word Social) would not imply a centralized borg hive mentality, as found in the decaying control of Cultural Marxism. But that's not true at all. The only difference between Democratic Socialism(or that is to say, someone like Hillary. Though she's more to the right than people think) and someone like Sanders, is that Hillary is going to try to appeal to both, while not using too much flattery language.

    You won't see the likes of Holder in AG. Instead, you'll see some kind of other reformer, whose a little bit less extreme and probably more culturally conscious. She'll change it, but she won't rock the boat. Even though she's radicalized, that radicalization has some limitation, as social order is preferred over chaos,.

    "It takes a village to raise a child"-Hillary Clinton. She doesn't want that village to collapse. And in that vein, we'd actually have something to agree upon. Too bad our definition of how to raise that village(and my belief in the child's individual growth) differs from her. But no, an Obama Democrat couldn't possibly vote for Hillary.

    A vote for Hillary is a confirmation that Cultural Marxism(Obama) was a bit too far for their liking(and for all of our liking). What a miserable 7 years, and there's no one I truly like, save for Rand Paul. And even then, in my ego I believe I'm the best one for POTUS.
     
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    Thank you.
    I am a Racial Socialist but in the political climate the US is in now Sanders is as close as we are going to get to Socialism of ANY kind so yeah I support his economic policies 100% but I don't support his social policies at all.
    You don't think he has a chance in New Hampshire of winning? I do and that could scare the hell out of Hillary.
     
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    No chance of Sanders winning either.

    How long before the idiot Al Franken throws his tutu in the ring for humiliation ? Maybe these two could be running mates.
     
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    This slime ball voted against the Amber Alert bill which to date, has rescued more than 300 children from either being sexually abused or murdered.

    He can rot in hell.
     
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    It would be interesting if I thought he had a chance to win the democratic nomination:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep..._democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

    Hillary would have to withdraw for sanders to even have a 100-1 chance. But I will admit Sanders is an honest guy which is very rare for a politician or one of our political leaders. Looking at the candidates on both sides, I would say sanders is the most trustworthy in believing what he says. If I was a Democrat, I wouldn't vote for him, his political views are for the most part opposite of mine. I would probably vote for Hillary although I do not trust her one bit, but her views are more in line with mind.

    Then again, there is always Jim Webb.
     
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    I'm not seeing where capitalism is doing any better in any part of the globe. Got any examples of where it is?
     
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    Sanders- "I'm not a Democrat" ......"Yes, I caucus with the Democrats"

    Hey Bernie, under which political party will you be running??

    Well, we now see the first sacrificial lamb put forth by the DNC.

    Bernie will be 74 years old this year. I guess the recent events concerning Hillary made the DNC decide that they need some primary opponents for Hillary so there is an appearance of her being challenged. Given Bernie's age, he's not a bad choice to put up against her as he really has nothing to lose and I'm sure that they've made it worth his while.
     
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    Martin O'Malley is running as well....
    He has already said as a Democrat....Oh and Reagan was as old if not older when he did his 2 terms.
     
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    Bernie is nothing more than a sacrificial lamb put forth by the Democrat party.

    O'Malley has nothing to gain unless he's been promised the VP slot

    The Democrats have Hillary, that's it. I do not understand why they feel that they need to toss a challenger or two at her. If she runs uncontested it's not going to take away one Democrat, "independent" or "undecided" vote from her during the general election.

    I put quotation marks around "independent" and "undecided" because there is no such thing as being on the fence about supporting big govt or supporting the Constitution. One knows where they stand
     
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    Jim Webb interests me. If Sanders is at 100-1 odds in winning the nomination, Webb is probably closer to 1,000 to 1. Yet he interests me and if he is still around come Super Tuesday when Georgia has its primaries, I just might vote for him. We have open primaries. So far no one on the other side has piqued my interest like Webb has.

    But it was Gary Johnson who I was interested in in 2012 and he did get my vote although as a Libertarian and not as a Republican.
     
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    I voted for the same person in 2012. 2008 and 2012 I voted for Ron Paul in the primaries.
     
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    With open primaries in Georgia, they are interesting as it gives independents if they want to vote a say in whom the two parties will nominate. Independents and third party members like me. I have used them to vote against candidates as much as for candidates.

    As for 2016 I haven't a clue as to whom I will support or be against.
     
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    You can see how well trickle down socialism is working with 0.2% increase in GDP last quarter. You guys won't be happy until this country is another backwater nation with everyone sucking on the government teat.
     
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    :roflol: you think we have socialism now...:roflol: What we have is a corporatocracy

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    I won't vote for any of the republicans or Hillary. If Sanders is in come our Primary I will vote for him but more than likely 3rd party again in general election. Probably the American Freedom Party....no chance of winning but closest to my views.
     
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    LOL, with almost 50% on some form of welfare, government control of 1/6th of the economy, and you don't think we have socialism?
     
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    I don't believe that Sanders is in it to win it. Not to say that he will not run a legit campaign, but he wants a platform to challenge the status quo and force others to talk about the issues that need talking about. Sanders is convinced that we are quickly moving towards being a full fledged Oligarchy and wants to expose this reality...

    Bernie Sanders vs. the billionaires
    http://www.vox.com/2014/10/14/6839305/bernie-sanders-running-for-president-2016
     
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