Scaramucci removed as White House communications director

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see. when you get experience, it will come to you.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Drum roll ..... wait for it.

    We have your promise you know the full truth.

    Forum, he knows the whole truth. And told it to us.

    Now we find out how Trump ran his enterprises yet made enormous amounts of money. So greedy he works as president and takes no salary.
     
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    Better still, he is ungovernable.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Whatever that means. Was that meant to be insulting, or is that the way you debate? Maybe it is you who needs some experience.
     
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    Seven times bankrupt..
    Yo hotshot. Read about Trump before the presidency and then roll the drums. This is my opinion based on what I have observed
    during Trump's time in the white House. Maybe you, as an expert, think that this activity is normal. And try to stop acting like you
    have an 8th grade mentality, because I know that you are smarter than that.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I kind of agree with what you are saying and have a similar take although I think from a slightly different perspective.

    My take is that Trump is an elitist. His Father was a big fan of eugenics and Trump has also made statements confirming his adoption of similar. This simply means that Trump believes he is in the position he is because of superior genetics - "the race horse theory". Those of us who are in the working class are where we are because of inferior genetics. In the hay days of the eugenics movement (prior to Hitler bastardizing the ideology) many, if not most, elite held this ideology as it justified stratification and hierarchal structures in society (the natural outcropping of the genes desire to improve - survival of the fittest). Helping the poor or messing with that structure would be tampering with the natural order. Reagan and Maggie Thatcher were big fans of biological determinism (eugenics had to be relabeled due to the bastardization of the ideology by Hitler).

    This and other things make Trump an uber excellent candidate for entrance into the club Establishment !

    The thing that makes Trump attractive to many is his lack of filter. The man says what is on his mind which is very refreshing for a politician.
    This is also his biggest weakness. The thing about Establishment insiders is that they often do not say what they really think. The raging masses are not supposed to hear this stuff.

    This is the problem the Establishment has with Trump. He is a bull in a china shop. He says things the establishment is thinks but does not want out in the public domain.

    So it is not that Trump is Anti Establishment. It is that Trump is endangering the Establishment by saying what they are thinking and also that Trump does not know his place.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry for the lack of clarification. I did not mean that Trump was a show to keep the raging masses distracted. The show is our whole political system, mainstream media, justice system and so on. Trump is just a small part of the show ... a pawn that serves a useful purpose in the overall goal of keeping the raging masses distracted.

    Question - ... when is the last time you heard some actual "NEWS" on Fox, MSNBC, or CNN ? ... other than reality TV show stuff.
     
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    They are analysts of the news and anything else that is political, for the most part. Straight news is found on ABC,NBC,CBS. Trump is doing a good job of fooling the masses with his gibberish.
     
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    The Mooch now has about 11 days MORE governmental experience than his old boss (Trump) had before his old boss got his new gov't job.
     
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    Like 99% of Washington big-wigs the stated reason he's leaving his position is to, er, uh, "spend more time with my family". Hehe.
     
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    That is selective local news. There is nothing on foreign policy. That some dog ran away or some building started on fire was not the type of news being referred to.

    You avoided the poignant question. The war in Yemen has been raging for 2 years. A war in which we are involved. When is the last time you heard some "news" from NBC/ABC/CBS reporting from the front line of the conflict in Yemen ?
     
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    I don't do those channels. No News channel that I know of speaks on the Yemen war, except in very general terms. Those channels also have national news, no? Cable news offers discussion on foreign policy. You might not like their take on it, but they do have
    retired generals, FBI, CIA etc in their dialogue.
     
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    The take of those "retired generals".. who often are on the payroll as lobbyists for the defense contractors .. is to tout what narrative (often false narrative) the establishment wants them to tout.

    Take Iran for example. They all line up behind the "Iran is the #1 state sponsor of terror mantra".
    This is preposterous nonsense and they all know this .. yet the repeat this mantra like robots.

    Anyone who has the faintest clue about the terrorist threat knows that - Taliban, Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, ISIS, Islamic front and numerous others throughout the world "ALL" have their roots in the Saudi inspired extremist Islamist ideology. This is not some big secret.

    Further - Saud has been exporting this ideology all over the world for decades as well as arming and supporting these groups.

    All these "generals, FBI, CIA" know this .. yet the stand up there and support the false narrative. Sure there are reasons why the Establishment wants to demonize Iran and cover up for Saud .. but that does not change the fact that it is a big bag of nonsense.

    Regardless - interviewing some general who has a clear conflict of interest (as a paid lobbyist - though the media interviewer manages to forget to mention this conflict even though this is standard journalistic procedure - right after "though shalt not editorialize) is not "NEWS" it is opinion.

    The reason you do not hear about Yemen is because the Establishment does not want you to hear about Yemen. There is nothing good to say. We hear the pundits railing on about "Assad is bombing and civilians are dying". The same thing (arguably even worse in some respects) is happening in Yemen except it is our buddy "El Saud" doing it (and by association the USA) and not the "Evil Assad".

    We do not hear much about all the civilians we and our Iraqi friends killed in Mosul either.

    Any news that one does get through the MSM is "all the news that is fit to print". Stuff that goes against the official Establishment narrative is "not fit to print"

    Time to wake up and smell the flatus.
     
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    I agree with much of your post. I also don't agree with your take on the military people who are commenting. Iran is a sponsor of terrorism, and has been, establishment or not. These military, CIA, FBI officials are being truthful in their analysis, in my view.
    Yes, some like Flynn can do a number on us, but most are correct in their analysis. There is not as much farting as you think there is,
    or we would get a different take from other countries. The Yemen situation is troubling, since we should have heard more. Even Trump,
    with his large oral cavity spewing forth all kinds of nonsense, has not spoken about it at all.
     
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    Glad that you agree with some of my analysis so lets work on the part you disagree with.

    Keep in mind that I do not generalize to "all" military people. Some become part of the "Establishment - which includes the international financiers that run the country and the deep state along with the Political Elite"

    It is also important to keep in mind that the Pentagon and various other of our institutions are known liars so it is important to vet what they say and really important not to just blindly accept what comes out these institutions. Billions of dollars per year is spend creating propaganda and false narrative.

    If Iran is the #1 state sponsor of Terrorism then where is the "evidence" ?

    The Yemen situation - although bad - pales in comparison to what was done in Syria. In Syria our Gov't (including the CIA), in conjunction with Saud, Qatar and others, armed and supported Al Qaeda/Al Nusra and other Islamist extremists. (An Islamist is someone who hates individual rights and freedoms and wants to force strict sharia theocracy on people through physical violence and holy Jihad).

    Arming these Islamist's led to the worst humanitarian crisis so far this decade (500,000 dead and counting), the refugee crisis which has further spread the plague of Islamist extremism and created the modern incarnation of ISIS.

    Is this not news ? Is it not news that Obama/Hillary were supporting and arming the same group that did 911 ?

    Rand Paul on the CNN Sunday morning show "State of the Union" had this to say.

    Like or dislike Paul - the dude stated that we were arming Al Qaeda and ISIS. Is Paul, member of the "Homeland Security Committee" making this up ?

    Either way this narrative should have hit the front page of every newspaper and network in the US, either calling Paul a deranged lunatic and debunking his claims or investigating if there is any truth to these claims. "Russian Collusion" is nothing compared to this.

    Is this not "news" ? Apparently not because the collective MSM response was utter silence.
    http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2...-my-son-into-that-mess-on-the-crisis-in-iraq/

    Paul is not alone in his claims

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/virgin...ad-for-saving-the-lives-of-christians/5384338

    There are numerous others who also make this claim but, the point is not to prove this claim but to ask why the media did not cover this ?
     
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    You make valid points.
     
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