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School cancels football game days after cheerleaders are punished for pro-Trump banner

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    We also have a clause in the contract that specifically forbids the employer from using a checklist in evaluating teachers.
    We won't put up with administrators bullying teachers.
     
    LangleyMan, Sep 26, 2019
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    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    I want to work where you're at! Of course, this state is paying a price for all that. They're having trouble finding new teachers.
     
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    What are the cheer leaders of a public school doing supporting a political administration?
     
    Distraff, Sep 26, 2019
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  4. LangleyMan

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    The game was cancelled to protect all the students, not just the cheerleaders.
    FAKE NEWS ALERT!
    Total BS.
     
    LangleyMan, Sep 26, 2019
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    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    FAKE NEWS ALERT!
    Your "bet" is absurd and has in my opinion the appearance of you intending to smear school officials doing their job to protect students.
     
    LangleyMan, Sep 26, 2019
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  6. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    If there was an undetermined number of someones, yes.
     
    LangleyMan, Sep 26, 2019
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    ABSOLUTELY NOT! Schools are for education NOT guidance.

    If it doesn't have to do with reading writing math science history or some life skill like speech, home ec or shop the schools have no business being involved in it. Everything else is solely the parent's responsibility.

    Schools should be teaching parents are guiding and shaping.
    As soon as schools start guiding and shaping they start to impart world view bias on the students and that is a violation of church and state.

    Back to the banner, the cheerleaders should be able to support whoever they want and the school should shut the hell up about it.
    The kids are more important than the school just like the people are more important than the country. That is what the bill of rights is all about. The individual over the collective.
    Everything else is unamerican.
     
    Robert E Allen, Sep 26, 2019
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  8. LangleyMan

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    Not if you accept their explanation that a credible threat to students who would attend the game.
    Good question.
     
    LangleyMan, Sep 26, 2019
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    If they are using the school property during a school-sanctioned event, they are not allowed to allow students who are performing for the school to promote their political preferences. It would be seen as the school promoting one candidate over the other. That follows along with what you said about the idea of the separating church and state.
     
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    It was not a direct threat, but more of a "word on the street" kind of thing that there would be people there who were going to make a public issue of banning the banner. The Sheriff and the school were afraid that the football game would turn into a political free-for-all.
     
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    He's not a presidential candidate he is the president. To reading route Ronald Reagan or Bill Clinton or George Bush is political?
     
    Polydectes, Sep 26, 2019
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    He's running for president in 2020. Check out the photo from the link I posted.
     
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    He is the president. I wouldn't think it was political if these kids put up a banner that said Elizabeth Warren for 2020. But then again the schools are the lefts indoctrination outlet
     
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    politics isn't religion.. i don't think the kids should be silenced.
     
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    We have a legal obligation to guide student behavior to maintain a safe education environment.
    We act in loco parentis because the parent is not present.
    How can we operate a school if we don't guide student behavior?
    It isn't about who students support, but about how they express their support at school sponsored events.
    Again, the school is acting in loco parentis.
     
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    Yes, putting up a Warren for president banner would be considered political and is not allowed. That has nothing to do with Left or Right, it's a state legal requirement to prevent schools or other taxpayer funded entities from seeming to promote one politician over another (in the same way that it can't promote one religion over the other). The girls are free to parade around with their poster off campus and out of uniform.
     
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    then our schools are doing more damage than good and should be immediately disbanded..
     
    Robert E Allen, Sep 26, 2019
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    The kids weren't silenced. They can support Trump all they want as long as they aren't on campus or dressed to represent the school.
     
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    I don't agree and without proof your claim is dismissed.


    somebody forgot to tell the NEA. The only problem with this is that it says Trump.
    because you're not allowed to promote Trump. That undermines the programming.
     
    Polydectes, Sep 26, 2019
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    i think that's a BS ideology.. the kids are more important than the school.. the school represents the kids NOT the other way around..

    the kids are more important than the school!!!!
     
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    Proof of what? That promoting a presidential candidate is not permitted on school grounds or that the girls were promoting a presidential candidate?


    I'm not sure what you mean there. Has the NEA been on school campuses promoting a presidential candidate? I'd like to see proof of that because it would be a violation.
     
    Adfundum, Sep 26, 2019
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    Suppose the kids were carrying a sign that said "Allah Akbar" instead of "Trump 2020". Suppose it supported Sharia Law or socialism? If any of those were the case, I'm sure no one would be here demanding the students' rights.

    The state has rules that the districts must follow. Those rules are to prevent schools from taking one side or another--politically or religiously. They're based on the ideas in the First Amendment.
     
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    again politics is much different than religion. Allah Akbar would be a religious statement.

    i just think the kids are more important than the school , school districts and just about every other government agency needs to be put back in their places.

    government agencies are SLAVES! of the American people any time the interest of an agency puts itself over the people that agency becomes a danger..

    like i said before if half the cheer leaders like warren and half liked trump they should have had two banners.. sounds to me like the school have FAR to much power over our kids. and government has far too much power over the people
     
    Robert E Allen, Sep 26, 2019
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    You can't apply the idea to religion and not to politics as well. There really isn't much difference because both are belief systems, both are controversial, and both are guaranteed to start some kind of tension among people. To be free to think and believe what you want, you must protect the idea that governments (and therefore schools) cannot promote one religion or one political party over another. While those girls are on school property during an official school event and while wearing the school's cheerleader uniforms, they are not allowed to promote their political or religious beliefs to the public. They have every right to do so after they change clothes and leave school grounds.

    The school did not in any way put itself over the people. It merely followed the rules that say it must remain neutral to prevent such organizations from having the kind of power over people to dictate politics and religion.
     
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    Nope politics and religion are different.

    I think permissiveness is a better choice that totalitarianism.
     
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