Au... Contraire..... Clearly, this is a public health and safety as well as education, public housing, public assistance policy construct. Clearly, using big invasive government is the only answer here. Certainly, the well being of the citizens must then be the paramount responsibility of our elected officials to legislate necessary and life saving regulation to ensure the most safe, and regulated use of breeding in our society. Clearly, the public good demands that we produce rigorous enforcement, deft and agile identification of wrong doers in our society so we can cleanse the nation of future reproductive harms. Certainly, as we strive to move forward, these regulatory burdens must be shouldered by the public in order to do what's best for them. To make sure that the state creates the most secure, and safe, and transparent environment possible. Right? I mean, isn't this the goal? Isn't this Eugenic realized? Isn't this exactly what the progressive world requires?
Then obviously you haven't seen the history of the world.....humans don't stop having sex. And PREACING abstinence has never worked......
What you described was the Repub/Regressive way to control women to stop abortions, Giant Government Programs, more regulations....
Nah... I just applied current progressive gun ownership policy to reproductive public policy. Sweet similarities now, huh?
FoxHastings said: ↑ Then obviously you haven't seen the history of the world.....humans don't stop having sex. And PREACING abstinence has never worked...... If you have no answer, why answer?
Gun ownership and abortion are two very different things and in THIS forum the topic is abortion...…..want to discuss gun laws? Go to the Gun Forum.
You got that right . And then you lost it This could more accurately be used to describe the pro-life actions in relation to abortion - especially the bit about "safe, regulated use of breeding" Tell me - how do you regulate abortions to the point of ensuring that there are few to none performed without creating huge bureaucratic empires?
Are you trying to say I did that? I didn't. I hate abortion. Its usually the unnecessary killing of a defenseless, innocent human, which is wrong. But we don't make laws based on morality. Being selfish is wrong. Lying is wrong. Such inherently wrong things are not illegal because this is not a theocracy. We make laws to protect the functioning of society. Society cannot function if murder and theft go unchecked. Society can function despite the practice of abortion. Abortion is precedentially foundational to the freedom of choice and Free Will. If we are not allowed to make the IMO morally bankrupt choice to protect our own interests over those of others, we're effectively saying that the individual must sacrifice for the collective. Now, I believe the individual should sacrifice for the collective... but that should remain the individuals choice to make. The instant we force it, we set the precedent that we have the communal power to sacrifice the minority for the majority, and that's the road that leads to violent, inhuman collectivism. Capitalism and individualism are founded on the right to be selfish, whether its buying a new car instead of feeding the hungry, shooting someone who's breaking into your home, or aborting a baby before it damages your social life.
I can agree on a couple of points and disagree on some I think everyone fundamentally agrees that abortion is not desirable and given an option is not first choice. Despite a repeated claim on here - there are few who are actually "pro-abortion" the vast majority of people view it as at best a "necessary evil". Something that has to be done in order for a greater good to be achieved. Whether that is sanctity of the woman's ownership of her own body, desire to see more control over our out of control population growth, a way of ensuring greater welfare for families by enabling better spacing of children or protection of maternal welfare by removing impediments to saving womens lives it is still seen as a greater good. Where many pro lifers are in error is in the belief that so many have not thought the issue through and all that needs to be done is "show them that they are killing babies" and we will change our minds for
Where is your proof that pro Life people do nothing to help these children? My church and many other churches have plenty of diaper hand outs etc and me and my wife have even donated to people in Africa. You post seems like you are trying to make us Pro Lifers look bad when it's the pro choice people who don't want to take care of these children, thus why they are so quick for abortions.
The topic should actually be why does the left love to murder God's children aka babies? Sad that so many are killed every year. Do you have any kid's and could you see yourself aborting any of them?
Do you really think it's going to be impossible to regulate abortions? If a woman get's pregnant and she was not raped or is not at risk of dying she ether has the baby or faces prison time for illegally aborting it. I don't think it's going to be all that hard.
Yeah well there is to many greedy rich people in this country that don't want to do any more then they have to and us middle class people can only do so much. The world needs to work together to stop world hunger. Pro life people do care but we can't do it alone.
Killing one of God's children is beautiful? Are you seriously that bored you have to troll an abortion thread?
You just can't handle fact's. That is why you run away every time someone tries to explain something to you. I wonder if you have any kids and if you could actually see yourself aborting any of them? I know I could never abort any of my kids. I just love them to much that I could never do it.
States with the most or greatest restrictions on abortion also have the poorest funding for infant and maternal welfare https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4950871/ https://scholar.colorado.edu/cgi/vi...httpsredir=1&article=2429&context=honr_theses https://rewire.news/article/2017/08...goes-hand-hand-poor-maternal-health-outcomes/
Try looking harder. Who would have thought Christians are actually feeding starving children? Wow a google search may do you wonders bowerbird.
