Scientism - The Belief System of Atheists

What is this "universe scale" and who do you claim would register high above humans?

 

huh?
I never said or inferred above anything.

scale

2 : something graduated especially when used as a measure or rule: such as
a : an indication of the relationship between the distances on a map and the corresponding actual distances

3a : a graduated series or scheme of rank or order
a scale of taxation

set boundary for the scale is the universe

 

Atheists can only legitimately claim the natural to be an atheist, ie unless you can hit it repeatably with a hammer it does not exist.
They presume evidence of G/god is only valid if its tangible and can be analyzed by scientific methods. Science cannot analyze anything supernatural. Science can not determine any value or moral judgement.

 

Sure, but that's consistent with what I posted, isn't it?

And, I think the definition of god that we're working wiht includes that such a god must have intelligence.

 

You said:
"On a universe scale our intelligence wouldn't even register on the meter."

If humans "wouldn't even register on the meter" of yours, please tell the audience what WOULD "register on the meter" and why.

I am unaware of anything remotely as intelligent as humans in this universe. You obviously do not concur.

 

so then as far as you are concerned no higher intelligence can exist because you are not aware of the existence of a higher intelligence in this universe? How does that fit with the size of the universe when compared to the size of our piddly knowledge base? The comparison I made was between the universe and our knowledge, not our knowledge and what ever strawman you are referring

Personally I like species 8472 but they hang out in the delta quadrant

 

The belief system of atheists is limited to the natural, supernatural is the theists playground.

Actually theists would have an advantage because they can use both, JC walked the earth, which can be observed through the senses.

The evidence atheists require for proof limits them to the natural the same way math, say 2+2=4 would have no meaning to someone who cant tie it to some physical objects

 

Strawman and leading sentence.

The hubris of those who claim to intimately know the indetectable escaped your scrutiny. Odd.

 

It's not about me or any other Christian or conservative. You never get that. It's about science. It's about facts. It's about history.
It's about common sense. We state points. You godless leftists attack the messenger, play word games, and boast about your eternally superior intellect.
THAT is hubris and you dodge the fact. That's not odd. It's all too typical. It's normal. YOUR hubris, YOUR ignoring science and facts.
They're NOT "indetectable."

 

I assume that when wrm used the term "indetectable" that he was referring to a scientific measuring device as some gifted people have the ability to sense things indetectable by instruments.

 

"Assume" is exactly the right word for all of your opinions.

 

One of the questions on my mind is how in the world did
former Skeptic / Atheist Mellen Thomas Benedict come up
with such a phenomenal explanation for the Cyclic Model of the
Universe...... during a brush with death......... I would tend to think that
approaching death would make us less intelligent..... rather than
give us insight?!


https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a05

 

You will like this statement from one of the most
impressive writers that I ran into on this forum.... (and pretty much anywhere else for that matter
even in published books).......

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/ruby.444300/
(Emphasis mine):

 

Your words, not mine. Your words and your interpretation. You cleverly inserted "can exist" when I made no such assertion.

"The universe" has no knowledge. It is stars, planets, and certainly us. Decades of attempting to intercept something from someone has been utterly futile. Why?
I am confident that we are alone. We're therefore the smartest even if one factors in Leftists, who invariably pretend that their knowledge base is most awesome.

 

Another factless statement. Being an atheist means you do not believe in God. Whether or not you believe in the supernatural is another story. Your attempt to dictate what all atheists require for proof also fails a basic grasp of reality. Once again. Just more meaningless inventions designed to make stuff up about atheists. I suggest talking to one someday.

 

'religion the opiate of the masses' Marx et al. Communism Atheism predates the Scientific Method, for most purposes! Evolution is on a drawing board. Then again, do Atheists build a cadre of originators, with a ring of Apostles, expanding out to Saints, the Martyrs, and then there is nothing else to know! nooooo there's nothing else to know... You know a comparison though of religion and communism, if it didn't work, you didn't try, FULL Communism.

 

The basics of the scientific method predate Marx. Hell, communism predates Marxism. And attempting the equate atheism with Marxism is desperate ignorance.

 

ah so atheists believe in the supernatural huh? Do tell or is this another one of your infamous hit and run posts?

yep everybodys got one

 

Is this another one of your hit and run semantic posts or are you capable of comprehending the fact that just because someone does not believe in God does not mean that they don't believe in anything supernatural?

I repeat: are you capable of comprehending the fact that just because someone does not believe in God does not mean that they don't believe in anything supernatural?

I don't anticipate you will actually respond to that question directly, but it is THE question that pertains to this discussion.

 

Marxism and religion - Wikipedia

19th century German philosopher Karl Marx, the founder and primary theorist of Marxism, had ... Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism.
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Marxism_and_religion

seems you got a problem!

 

Oh?
Like what?
God?
Hmm lets see what else is there?
Ah Angels and devils are in the supernatural.

Cant think of anything else, can you?

 

Seems like you don't understand your own link. Care to try again? Well, I mean, care to actually try to begin with?

 

If you are telling me you can't think of anything supernatural besides God, that's your failure of thought, not mine. Think harder.

 

seems I understand it quite well actually, next....

 

LMAO,
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