Section 4 of the 25th Amedment

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  1. Checkerboard Strangler

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    Nope, that would be an absurd way for a law to work...any law.
     
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    You deflected the question. It's a waste of time, I'm sure, but how do you define the phrase "unable to"? Do you define it as "able to"?
     
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    No, the framers would not have anticipated or approved of the federal law enforcement people would be supportive of or even discuss either impeachment of the 25th amendment to dispose of the president. Both are predicated on some known egregious action of a sitting president, which does not exist in the current operation.
     
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    by directly answering it? lol ok.
    Again, perfectly clear English. Nowhere in section 4 is it required that the president be incapacitated.
     
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    The same deflection repeated. I knew it was a waste of time.
     
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    you understand answering you directly, isn't a deflection right?
     
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    Go away.......
     
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    I accept your concession.
     
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    1. The 'framers' were not around to anticipate the 25th amendment or they would have written it . 2. Incapacitated Presidents do not always provide an egregious action unless dilating pupils and depressed brainstem reflexes count as egregious acts. As to your larger point, I have no idea why 'federal law enforcement' should be discussing the 25th, unless the AG's or the VP office asked for legal research. They have better things to do with their time than speculate about Trumps future.
     
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    The 25th amendment is about egregious conditions, not acts -- poor choice of words on my part. And it is in the realm of brainstem anomalies -- written with W. Wilson in mind. Do you really think the VP or the AG asked the FBI and other legal minds in the Justice Department for an interpretation of the 25th???? It's not the jurisprudence equivalent of rocket science. They thought their time was well spent thinking of ways to get rid of Trump.
     
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    No I do not. It was basic workplace politics and the President was the target. It was not an illegal act, a coup or treason but gossip around the water cooler.
     
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    Well, it was in formal meetings that included the Director of the FBI and the Deputy AG. Federal law enforcement has no business discussing ways to unseat a president in a conference room, around the water cooler, or at the sports bar after hours.
     

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