Selective Social-Distancing Rules Are One of the Great Scams in American Life

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Link to article: https://www.nationalreview.com/2020...ueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

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    "If it’s okay for throngs of people to pack the streets and shout and chant to protest the death of George Floyd, it ought to be permissible for someone to ride a bike along the lakeside while keeping to him- or herself. In fact, one involves sustained interaction with other people, and perhaps fights with the police, while the other is a solitary activity, or one undertaken with a friend or a spouse.

    Yet, Mayor Lightfoot welcomed the protestors — “We want people to come and express their passion,” she said — and still kept the trail shuttered."

    "The likes of Mayor Bill de Blasio have justified the different standards by arguing that fighting racism is important. Well, so is mourning your dead, keeping your business from being ground to dust, and worshiping your God. It’s a sign of a ludicrously blinkered worldview to believe that a protest march deserves more consideration than these other elemental human needs."

    "Don’t expect consistency, or even a serious attempt at it. More than 1,000 public-health experts signed a letter calling the protests “vital to the national public health,” thus immolating their credibility on a pyre of motivated reasoning. It’s social distancing for people and activities they find uncongenial, and different rules for their ideological allies."

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    A good read, even though its from the National Review (truth comes in all forms). Great points are made here. Firstly, if public health is so vital to shut the nation down, how is it more important to violently riot but not say goodbye to a loved one? How is it okay to take over a police station but not be able to attend worship? These are questions that need to be asked and answered by governors on both sides, coast to coast.

    Thoughts?
     
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    You cannot trust the public health agencies of any Western government.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/mani...hs-before-rcmp-asked-to-investigate-1.5609582

    "CBC News had already reported about the shipment of Ebola and Henipah viruses but there's now confirmation one of the scientists escorted from the lab in Winnipeg amid an RCMP investigation last July was responsible for exporting the pathogens to the Wuhan Institute of Virology four months earlier. . ."

    "Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband Keding Cheng and her students from China were removed from Canada's only level-4 lab over what's described as a possible "policy breach." The Public Health Agency of Canada had asked the RCMP to get involved several months earlier. . ."

    "It is suspicious. It is alarming. It is potentially life-threatening," said Amir Attaran, a law professor and epidemiologist at the University of Ottawa. . ."

    "We have a researcher who was removed by the RCMP from the highest security laboratory that Canada has for reasons that government is unwilling to disclose. The intelligence remains secret. But what we know is that before she was removed, she sent one of the deadliest viruses on Earth, and multiple varieties of it to maximize the genetic diversity and maximize what experimenters in China could do with it, to a laboratory in China that does dangerous gain of function experiments. And that has links to the Chinese military."

    GAIN OF FUNCTION EXPERIMENTS are when a natural pathogen is taken into the lab, made to mutate, and then assessed to see if it has become more deadly or infectious.

    In Canada, gain of function experiments to create more dangerous pathogens in humans are not prohibited, but are not done because they're considered too dangerous, Attaran said.

    "The Wuhan lab does them and we have now supplied them with Ebola and Nipah viruses. It does not take a genius to understand that this is an unwise decision," he said.

    "I am extremely unhappy to see that the Canadian government shared that genetic material."

    They give the ghastly viral goo to China to play around with. Put their brains in a bird and it would go into an immediate dive and crash.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not sure. Show us an example of where this is not permissible so we can comment on it.
     
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    Trails in parks all over the country have been closed due to the Chinese virus. Don't ask, let duckduckgo be your friend.
     
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    Oh. So it was a strawman. For a second there I thought it was serious.
     
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    It makes no sense for the trails to be closed. Think about it, if the next hiker is at least a mile away, where is the harm in this picture? Where would people by in close proximity to each other? The parking lot, but that’s it.

    Governors really need to start using their brains.
     
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    I can give you a good example. I see bikers all the time on my way home from work. Mask-less, yes but most cardio activities will require the mask to be removed for proper ventilation. More often than not, I come across bikers that are at least a car lengths apart from each other. The only exception is when it’s a family riding their bikes. Biking is one of those sports where you don’t really come in contact with others. That example was broad but gives a good idea of how much interaction people actually have.
     
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    I'll play devil's advocate for a second - say you're walking on your favorite trail with your family. when five mountain bikers pass you a foot or two away. They've been at it for awhile, and are sweaty and breathing hard. One of them is a newly infected carrier.
    The mucus trail spreads for ten feet behind them in a "v" pattern. Does that make a governor a monster for closing the trail?
     
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    I'll also play devil's advocate for a second - say you're protesting on your favorite street when five rioters/looters pass you a foot or two away. They've been at it for awhile, and are sweaty and breathing hard. One of them is a newly infected carrier. The mucus trail spreads for ten feet behind them in a "v" pattern. Does that make a governor a monster for putting a stop to the protesting and looting?
     
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    In this situation, a bit of caution is warranted but still doesn’t call for closing the trail. Keep your head straight, don’t accept offers to have a bottle of water, and don’t make much eye contact to avoid being in the direction of the recently infected individual. The body odor from sweat will likely be a deterrent in itself. I’ll add if you go on a trail that is highly trafficked, even with the mucus pattern, I advise people to look out for symptoms 14 days out from going on the hike.

    You do t need a governor to tell you what to do. You just have to think it out and what steps you can take that have t been rendered as a cliche.
     
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    In a perfect world, everyone would automatically do the right thing. Do you think we live in a perfect world?
     
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    No, our world is heavily flawed.

    But people, not the government, need to be responsible for their own health. You accept the risk when you leave the house. No reason to bring society down with you.
     
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    So if this were an Ebola outbreak instead of Covid, you would be mad at the government for taking any action?

    Remember, there were a lot of unknowns at the start of this outbreak - we didn't know how deadly it would be, we didn't
    know the rate of spread nor all the mechanisms of infection. It's fine to sit there with today's increased knowledge base
    and say, "Everything would have worked out (except for 200,000 dead Americans) if we kept things open."

    Covid was an unknown virus. And had to be treated as such.
     
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    What does that have to do with my question?

    You said: "it ought to be permissible for someone to ride a bike along the lakeside while keeping to him- or herself."

    And I'll repeat my question: "Show us an example of where this is not permissible so we can comment on it."
     
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    America needs a total redo of most of its politicians.

    Get out and vote them out and bring a few friends to the polls with you to vote.
     
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    Mr. Research, I am ashamed of you but I fully understand your position. This took me all of .0035 seconds to counter your point that it did not happen.

    https://www.fox7austin.com/news/cit...ties-closed-due-to-increase-in-covid-19-cases
    https://www.syracuse.com/coronaviru...state-parks-are-closed-in-new-york-state.html
    https://www.nps.gov/shen/planyourvisit/alerts.htm
    https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/l...-parks-trails-close-over-concerns/2898874001/
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03...es-announced-at-national-parks-in-california/
    https://www.mlive.com/coronavirus/2...iewing-areas-says-to-recreateresponsibly.html
    https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-national-parks-closed-coronavirus-wellness/index.html
    https://www.dcr.virginia.gov/state-parks/covid-19-update
    https://patch.com/california/temecula/riverside-county-regional-parks-trails-close-due-coronavirus
    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/202...f-courses-closed-due-to-large-weekend-crowds/
    https://timesofsandiego.com/politic...-and-trails-to-prevent-spread-of-coronavirus/
    https://www.opb.org/news/article/washington-oregon-state-parks-close-coronavirus/
    https://www.citizen-times.com/story...-and-other-wnc-outdoors-questions/5109156002/
    https://www.wta.org/go-outside/social-distancing-hiking-in-the-time-of-coronavirus
    https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavi...gorge-following-oregon-coronavirus-order.html
     
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    It would have taken you less than that to realize I said no such thing if you had tried concentrating when you "read" it.
     
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    That would be a nice change.

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    The ChiFlu hoax is a massive scam being perpetrated by the usual suspects:

    The massively wealthy sociopaths who control our society aided by their lickspittle lapdogs in the MSM/DNC.
     
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    They have been open the whole time where I live along with free fishing and camping on the river..
     
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    Yeah, except you keep forgetting the Republicans involved in this passion play that you never mention.
     
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    Co-conspirators to be sure, but Stalin to the Democrat Hitler.
     
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    He never responded, i'm sooooo surprised....:rolleyes:
     
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