Senate blocks anti-abortion bill

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    Aka making up (*)(*)(*)(*)
     
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    With all the government handouts anyone can afford a kid these days. Again in this day and age there is little excuse for the number of unwanted pregnancies were seeing. Either learn to use protection or keep your legs closed or keep your dick to yourself. Then abortion will become rare as it should be
     
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    ...and what's wrong with that?
     
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    Yes no woman has avoided pregnancy because they didnt want stretch marks. You left out it was to emphasize the truth about convenience

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    If you life is in danger or you were raped i can see considering abortion but not just because you screwed up and it will change your life. Think before you screw
     
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    Here we call it lying.....
     
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    When you can prove its never been done you will have a point
     
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    HOW EXACTLY is the medical procedure different for an abortion due to rape than an abortion done for any other reason.....


    It isn't....so once again you prove my point that Anti-Choicers only want to punish women for having sex....they do not really care about that "innocent life".....
     
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    Or you can just MYOB

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    So it's ok to kill a baby so long as they didn't have consensual sex

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    You mAke a bogus claim and tell someone else to disprove it? Typical lol
     
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    I dont favor abortion in the case of rape but i can see how the case can be made. I dont want to punish them for having sex. Who would be left for me to have sex with? Im saying that with all the means of contraception available today that when having sex there is little excuse for an unwanted pregnancy. If people actually took responsibility there would be far fewer abortions. You know look before you leap. I guess thats way too much to ask
     
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    Neither Democrats nor pro-choice people are "for" abortion at any time, BUT there are times when a woman may have to make that choice, which is something they are "for" (choice) with caveats - and those are laid out in the Roe decision, particularly for third trimester abortions.
     
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    Maybe it has....so what? If a woman chooses a legal medical procedure to avoid stretch marks she has that right :)
     
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    """Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    If you life is in danger or you were raped i can see considering abortion"""



    HOW EXACTLY is the medical procedure different for an abortion due to rape than an abortion done for any other reason.....?

    Why can't you answer that?


    NO person is obligated to use birth control.

    Although lot of people who used BC subsequently needed an abortion when the BC failed...
     
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    Maybe all those GOP Catholics aren't really Catholics afterall. Or, maybe after all these years of hearing "does the big bear (*)(*)(*)(*) in the woods?" and "is the Pope Catholic?", the bear doesn't (*)(*)(*)(*) in the woods and the Pope really ain't Catholic.
     
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    As long as some teen-agers think it's impossible to get pregnant "the first time" or "standing up" or douching with cola is a preventative, people DON'T know exactly what they're doing. The blame for misinformation lies squarely at the feet of the "abstinence-only" sex education advocates. Just don't even bother to call it "sex education" unless you're talking about comprehensive sex ed, because you may as well flush the money for abstinence-only sex education down the stool. As wide-spread as abstinence-only sex ed is, studies have shown it to be useless in deterring teens from sex.
     
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    Approximately half of all women choosing abortion were using birth control. Now we're back to education on the proper use of birth control and the easy availability of reliable birth control. People will not "learn to use protection" unless that education is available and encouraged. People will certainly not stop having sex, at least in the whole history of mankind, people have continued to have sex even when the risk of pregnancy was high.
     
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    Which should make opposiiton a non-factor right? If Republicans want to set a cut-off date, that shouldn't have any effect. Unless the position is that abortion should have no limits.(Such as that proposal for a "fourth-trimester"(ie: An actual born baby slained.) I find abortion to be our 21st century litmus test for whether or not we actually learned anything over the last century about the sanctity of life and how all life is precious.

    That's not a religious posiiton, it's a moral one. We humans need to grow and evolve, and the only way to do that is to live. Living is the process that allows our society to continue to grow. Abortion is cutting our nose to spite our face.
     
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    No, you understood, I did mean the actual 58MIL. You simply didn't answer directly. 58mil dead equates to what in your justifiable numbers?
     
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    And the men have to take full responsibility for protection against pregnancy by using condom's, while the women with the ability to prevent any pregnancies with the birth control pills, refuse to use them and get unwanted pregnancies having Saturday night fun. Sort of puts the kebash on the equal rights and treatment between men and women doesn't it? But, of course - the ladies can simply go snip-snip and eliminate a life as an irritant?

    Thanks to the Woman's Right's movement - that is how America operates. and that is how the Democratic Party in America supports abortion, something that is the most morally objectionable issue this country has ever faced, and failed miserable at. Does it ever occur to the pro-choice crowd that those abortions may have destroyed the lives of someone who might cure cancer in the future - become a President - cure Ebola - become an Olympic champion - possibly a Pope - major financier - etc.? Nah - they are too busy playing having fun sex to consider the consequences of their acts. All that welfare money, in the trillions, to women, and they think the government is going to deny them benefits if they can't "afford a baby?" I can't afford a Cadillac or a Corvette - so - naturally, I don't try to buy one. Couldn't afford another child at my age either - so naturally - I don't try to get anybody pregnant. With only 1% of the abortions conducted in this country the result of incest or rape - our PC liberal murdering Democratic party continues to support abortion for women. Abortion is nothing but legalized murder, pure and simple.........
     
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    I think Gawd already spoke on the issue, didn't Jesus say something like "suffer the little children onto me?"
     
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    Then dont call me a liar
     
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    I find that hard to believe. So many women can not get pregant

    So then it failed 100% of the time since you claim Approximately half of all women choosing abortion were using birth control. That leaves none for the other 2 factors

    Strange when I was young there were hardly any abortions and everyone had 3 - 6 kids for some reason today nobody seems to be able to afford that many. We had 7 boys in my family and my dad was an enlisted navy man not making very much. He still owned his own home . Whats changed?

    Now we have welfare even yet people keep claiming its better to abort than have them starve
     
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    Most women can get pregnant.



    I'm not sure what you are saying. As you pointed out, half of all pregnancies are unplanned, and half of the unplanned pregnancies are aborted. Half of the women choosing abortion had been using birth control, some of the BC failed, some women failed to use it correctly or consistently.

    Oh please, there were just as many abortions when you were young. Even today, women just can't talk freely about their abortions. You're right that economic conditions have changed and people cannot afford as many children. Economic conditions have changed and expectations have changed. What is "better" is for women to make their own choices as to the sacrifices they are willing to make.
     
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    I'm honestly sorry, I thought initially you wanted to compare the number of abortions from before Roe V Wade to after. Then I thought you were wondering about my emotional reaction to the 58 million abortions since Roe V Wade.

    Now I'm not sure what your asking.
     

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