We most assuredly already have, though as far as I can tell, they're 'sheep dipped' into other nations, fighting in a massive coalition under unofficial US direction, using US intel, wearing flags of other nations and/or under the guise of 'contractors.' This is the case in any conflict we involve ourselves in. Its a loophole to get around having Congress (and ultimately all of us, in a roundabout way) vote for whether we support a war or not ...because typically WE DONT. So whadya think, should we send in troops to fight Russia in Ukraine?
We shouldn't unless they attack us. ...but I'll play devils advocate here, because why not? I would've had the same position when Germany invaded Poland or when Soviet Russia invaded Finland and then Poland. And I would've been wrong. Given 20/20 hindsight, think how much different the world would have turned out if Germany and Russia had been stopped in Poland. Because clearly they had to be stopped. I don't believe there's any evidence to suggest Russia has territorial ambitions (or the capacity to fulfill such ambitions if it did have them) beyond the predominantly russian parts of Ukraine, and probably some buffer zone. But that's what folks kept saying about Germany too. But certainly if we're going to fight Russia, we should at least do so with the democratic consent of the nation and with our troops wearing our flag. Though way better if we sit this one out and instead arm up our actual, legitimate allies with defensive weaponry.
Simply put, no ! We just got out of one forever war that was not really our business so why should we jump right into another one?
I believe that the Founders intended that the decision to go to war was to be made by Congress. The President is the Commander in Chief of the armed forces, but constitutionally, he is not the one who decides if we go to war. That decision belongs to Congress, our elected representatives.
I don't think declaring war on the axis in 1939 would have worked out like you think. Stalin would probably have reversed course about betraying Hitler then we'd have faced the Soviets and the Axis against us.
The US has been fighting a proxy war against Russia since 2014. Don't send troops but Sean Penn, the corporate media and the chickenhawks instead.
From what I understand, Ukraine is accepting any and all volunteers from all corners of the globe to serve in their fight vs Russia. Sean Penn could go there and fight if it was really that important to him.
To be truthful, Ukraine is of no strategic importance to the United States. Neither was Vietnam. We should avoid making the same kinds of mistakes today, especially given the high stakes involved in a possible nuclear confrontation. Right now, NATO has member states right up against the border of Russia in several places and that gives us the ability to impose blockades, and if necessary to wage war but if we do, it should be for vitally important reasons. I feel bad for the Ukrainian people, sure, but their oligarchs in Kiev are just as corrupt as the Russian oligarchs are.
Your logic is very good but I wonder if it's based on the correct information. Here's some revisionist stuff I've looked at. Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Hitler's+War+-+What+the+Historians+Neglect+to+Mention Adolf Hitler - Why Germany Invaded Poland https://altcensored.com/watch?v=pe0gIdVgeow Adolf Hitler Explains His Reasons For Invading The Soviet Union https://archive.org/details/AdolfHitlerExplainsHisReasonsForInvadingTheSovietUnion I know this might turn out to be disinfo so I haven't formed a firm opinion. I think it makes more sense than the official version though.
I'm sick and tired of American involvement in foreign wars when we have plenty of domestic problems to take care of. I'll say, let's stay out of this one. Ukraine is Russia's backyard; not a NATO nation; not exactly our problem, as shocking as the Russian invasion there is, and regardless of slippery slope analogies with WWII Germany (I don't think Russian imperialism would extend over non-former Soviet territory so I think the fear is a bit exaggerated). Now, if we do get involved, then I think it should be AFTER a vote.
You cannot compare this to world war II because they were seriously not stopped in one nation. Play The devil's advocate all you want but that's the thing
The function of the US is to make money for the weapons industries. That's a short way of saying, the most powerful lobby is the 'defense' industry so the US gets into lots of pointless wars. The opinion poll at the top of this thread shows the public is overwhelmingly against stepping up the war in Ukraine even though we are still in the honeymoon phase of the war and believe most of the lies. Just think what the opinion polls will be in five years. But here we are, the public is against it but over a hundred thousand million dollars has already gone on weapons to kill Russians. The weapons makers have the steering wheel.
