Seriously….. What would it take for a GOD to prove itself? (Part 2)

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Do you believe we humans have been created or at least are guided?

  1. No.. all life has evolved due to random chance and particle inertia.

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  2. Yes. I have concluded that some sort of intelligence is guiding humanity.

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  3. No we humans are probably the most technologically advanced species in the multiverse.

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  4. Yes. I certainly see evidence of guidance and answered prayer in my own life.

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  5. No. a truly superior life form would not allow such injustice and suffering.

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  6. I really am not sure what to think?????

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    The Lord Vishnu of course!! LOL!!

    AA
     
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    Brahama may = The Ancient of Days the Father..... the fundamental energy divine Father.....

    Vishnu may = The Ancient of Days the Mother.... The Holy Spirit of Christian theology....

    There is a possible connection between Shiva..... with Moshiach ben Ephrayim / Yosef.

    (Near death experiencer Aurora Ray Salome....(I can't spell her last name)... was shown that there are 14 Elohim....
    I think they = the Seven Spirits of G-d........ Seven are male and seven are female..... and one of the Elohim has incarnated
    into each and every human being who has ever lived.... that may be why if a human is hypnotized they can be taken back
    further and further into time.... Helen Wambach Ph. D. wanted to stop her study at 4000 years in the past....(I suspect partly
    because if she ran into a guy with a big boat......... she would profoundly offend her target audience)?!?!

    There is a possible connection between Kali..... with the Bride of Moshiach..... the church... plus the Jewish people... plus the Lost Tribes of Israel....
    plus all groups that sprang up from Jewish teachers as the wandered around the world.....

    for example the identical twin brother of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus, (Judas Didymus Thomas, Doubting Thomas)... is supposed to have travelled to
    India....... and was eventually tortured to death there by the leading Hindu's who felt threatened by his teachings although.....

    frankly... they fitted quite well with Buddhism or Hinduism.....


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...out-healing-india-before-teaching-judaea.html
    Did Rabbi Jesus/Yeshua learn about healing in India before teaching in Judaea?
    Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua in INDIA!!!!???

    I first ran into the idea of Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua travelling to India in the writings of Levi Dowling. Now I have found what I consider to be an even better writing on this fascinating subject.


    Page 224:
    http://www.thomastwin.com/6 A Thomas background.html

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    The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ by Levi Dowling states that Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua learned much of his healing gifts in India!
     
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    The most fundamental energy intelligences.... have an awesome sense of humour.....
    but..... what you just did...... was all it takes for them to begin the process of getting you......

    into a mind set where you consider life on planet earth......
    kind of a paradise / heaven........ It took a while... but I am at the place where

    I believe that this earth environment has significant advantages over the heavens.... paradises.....
    that many mystics have claimed to have visited.......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/humor-satire/463371-ask-abovealpha-anything-you-want-7.html

    Thread: Ask AboveAlpha anything you want.

    In my opinion....... an astonishing amount of time in the past.......
    probably long long before the most recent major Big Bang event.....
    the most fundamental energy intelligences.... would develop something
    somewhat like EMOTION....... not merely intelligence.........
    and CURIOSITY.......
    because Multiverse Theory as AboveAlpha elaborates on it.......
    does seem to imply......
    something like SENTIMENTALITY on the part of the fundamental or nearly fundamental energy
    intelligences.........

    which is one possible explanation for time branching and branching and branching and branching......

    because it sure seems as if human beings.... are being guided up to a higher level.....

    than the level that we were at in other time lines....... because some NDErs are shown
    the future but the futures that they saw from 1967... and from 1975..... were much much much worse....

    especially as far as natural disasters go.... than what we have experienced... in our time line.......

    So......... IF it is true that time branches and branches and branches.....
    as is implied by some evidence from some research into parapsychology and near death experiences......

    THEN...... one possibility is that the most fundamental energy intelligences have became
    SENTIMENTAL...... emotionally attached to the creation........

    A fundamental or nearly fundamental energy intelligence that is attached to us....
    that may perhaps DELIBERATELY replicate multiple versions of us into new time lines... and improves the stage that we
    live out our lives in..........

    could be defined as G-d!?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...most-emotional-being-universe-multiverse.html

    Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe/ multiverse?
    Which type of project will you tend to get more involve in?

    A job that you invested fifty hours of your time in over one month or a labour of love where you exerted a great deal of effort for 50,000 hours over forty years?

    "
    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05
     
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    The Ancient of Days the Father zapping us.....
    and The Ancient of Days the Mother zapping us......

    is when they do something like a Vulcan Mind Meld with us to such an extent.....
    that they can actually speak through us..... perhaps ten or even twenty percent of the time.....

    and I do believe that some people got to the place where..... the words that they spoke....
    may well have been eighty percent or more pretty much exactly what "G-d" wanted them to say......

    http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a05
    One of the people who G-d speaks through with amazing accuracy is Dannion Brinkley......
    he keeps telling me........ "Have fun".... .

    and I am.......... having fun genuinely attempting to him up for a high office in the next administration.... (G-d willing)......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...on-brinkley-v-p-2016-presiden-usa-2024-a.html
    Dannion Brinkley for V. P. in 2016 and Presiden of the USA in 2024.
    Two time near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley has no idea that I am doing this….. but I do believe that when he eventually reads this discussion he will at the minimum seriously consider my offer.

    I believe that his Twilight Brigade is one of the most seriously cool charities that has recently been created in the United States.

    http://www.dannion.com/the-twilight-brigade/
    The Twilight Brigade
    A pretty major motion picture about his life was produced starring Eric Roberts.


    ........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...mpaign-gains-momentum-g-o-p-can-reformed.html
    If Dannion Brinkley's campaign gains momentum.... the G.O.P. can be reformed!

    In my opinion...… The Democrats and G. O. P. are too divided......… if they can find more common ground to cooperate on...… they would become somewhat more polite to each other...… and the stage would be set for significant progress.

    There is a near death experiencer who is willing to campaign for the office of POTUS and if his campaign gains momentum...… and if his desire to team up with Donald Trump comes to pass........... the most bigoted members of the G. O. P. could well confront information that will transform how they view the LGBT community???!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=349387&page=7&p=1065139917#post1065139917

    Which GOP leader would be most likely to protect the 2 million Gay men in Uganda?

    .....
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    Thank you immensely for these highly informative articles Serfin'USA!

    It is the most well informed Americans that I am seeking to have as Dannion Brinkley's core of supporters.

    Because Dannion is himself a near death experiencer he can immediately understand the deep wisdom in the following statements by another near death experiencer. These few paragraphs have the potential to reform the most bigoted of G. O. P. voters....... which will greatly decrease the animosity that many Republicans and Democrats have for each other.


    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11

    What about sexually diverse people?


     
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    I got a truly unusual message back in 2010 from a gifted friend of my wife who had an
    extensive NDE...........

    and then shifted from the usual Pentecostal Movement to become part of the Messianic Jewish
    movement....... after extensive fasting and prayer for her friends new Canadian hubby to get over
    his attachment to Judaism!!!!!!!!

    Anyway..... part of her message is here.....

    http://www.christianforums.com/thre...repare-for-major-event.7843155/#post-66360335
    Please pray for an American couple who are being used to prepare for major event.
    ......
    Pastor David Herzog was shown that during a time of economic trouble in the USA, a segment of the population would blame Israel and American Jews would be persecuted and many would be forced to flee to Canada and then on to Israel. The immigration laws of Canada must be altered to make this transition easier. Kurt Andreasen and his wife are being used to prepare the stage.

    ....

    ....(post #19)....
    .
    Which sure fits strangely with......... what I wrote this morning......
    (especially post # 4)
    http://theschoolofthespirit.yuku.co...-Netanyahu-told-Sigmund-Ivarsson#.V7d40GXA6UU


    .....

    I realize that this could easily indicate something other than a being along the line of the
    G-d of Abraham..... but this is intriguing psychic phenomena.
     
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    I have not read this thread (way too long), but I have answered this question in other forums...so, here goes the answer I've used elsewhere:

    I would be willing to accept the existence of a god...if the god sent an unambiguous message to every media outlet in the world that at on a particular day...at a particular hour...it would remove the planet Jupiter from our Solar system...and then on a particular day (about a week later)...at a particular hour...it would return the planet to its regular orbit position.

    Dangerous stuff...Jupiter does all sorts of essential things for our system. (Perhaps the return day should only be a day or so later, but I would want scientists to have time to assure us that the planet is gone.)

    But I would accept anything that could do that as a god.

    I doubt very seriously if I would accept that god as the kind that would want to be adored, loved, or worshiped...and I doubt I would do an of those things...but I certainly would be in awe of its abilities.
     
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    "Seriously….. What would it take for a GOD to prove itself? (Part 2)"

    the Sun God gives us warmth, light and life and yet no one believes, what more would it take for this God to prove itself?



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    But how would you know for sure that that wasn't merely technologically advanced
    aliens showing off..........
    to get earth women?!?!

    (Or other valuable resources)?!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/other-off-topic-chat/338698-will-ufos-assist-bringing-peace-world.html
    Will UFO's assist in bringing peace to the world?????
    I personally am now wide open to this possibility...... but I sure wasn't ready for the idea until I read this part of the NDE account of Christian Andreason:


    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/


    Even Richard Dawkins Ph. D. is open to the possibility of technologically advanced alien civilizations.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL7CCyuXAS4
    Richard Dawkins: Aliens Seeded Earth?
     
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    I wouldn't know...which is why I said I would "accept it as a god."

    So?

    If there are gods in the REALITY of existence...then there are gods.

    If there are none...then there are none.

    Anyone asserting there are...or are not...

    ...is simply making a blind guess about the REALITY.

    (Sorry, but I have to add this: Richard Dawkins, in my opinion, is an ass. He is guessing about the REALITY as much as the Pope is.)
     
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    I think you are correct......
    within less than a century we humans could well have "godlike" technological capability......

    We may well create virtual reality environments in which to test
    Artificial Intelligence androids...... who look somewhat like us.....
    but we may at that time want some sort of process by which we
    allow A. I. with certain characteristics to be given a higher level of
    capability and responsibility.

    So how could we possibly rule out the possibility of another
    technologically advanced alien species evolving on another planet.....

    or within fundamental or nearly fundamental energy??????

    How could we even rule out the possibility of humans from the
    2300's - 2600's..... not going back in time..... and intervening in
    what we think of as history??????


    On that note... I should link you to a description of YOUR
    most fundamental energy hard drive / soul / spirit by
    a near death experiencer!

    That is the part of you and I that existed for far more than merely millennia.....
    before the time of our human birth........(based on what I have read of
    the paranormal so far anyway)!
    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...an-andreason-he-onto-something-important.html
     
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    AboveAlpha..... one of the best answers on this type of question.....
    to me..... was the really, really, really strange way in which I
    ended up married to my Ecuadorian wife......(who is also wife
    #3.... I am divorced twice)!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...an-andreason-he-onto-something-important.html

    The Man on the Throne by Christian Andreason.... is he onto something important?
    .....
    AboveAlpha..... after raising my right hand in the air on many occasions during prayer......
    and quoting or alluding to Isaiah 45:1.....

    I remember specifically asking Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to pick a wife for me......

    I had already written to over four hundred ladies on ChristianMatchmaker .com.....
    at that time.... and I did pick one of the women I had written to......
    but then whamo......... the correspondence between M. J. and I
    went up to another level......"ask and you shall receive."

    That is actually a good way to test that superior intelligence that apparently
    hears and answers prayers?!

    AboveAlpha..... TEST H-M!

    ...and by doing so... you will simultaneously be testing the calibre
    of the Prophetess who gave you message #16 here:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...ve-decided-leave-canadas-liberal-party-2.html
     
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    In my opinion.....
    The Donald for all his flaws.....
    would be the President who would try his best to
    actually defend Americans in a practical....... rather than in a politically correct manner!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-us-world-news/464333-trump-calls-auditing-fed.html
    Trump Calls For Auditing the Fed
     
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    I finally ran into a theory in Psychology that really helps to explain those negative NDE accounts that
    have bothered me for 26 years!

    Deindividuation Theory X TIME, (lots and lots of time) = hell / purgatory / The Void

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...afterlife-visions-deindividuation-theory.html
    Negative NDE's, hellish afterlife visions and deindividuation theory
    I just read an article that I am thinking helps to make sense out of those
    rather negative near death experiences that I have read over the years
    that frankly, have left me with a lot of questions and more than
    a little disillusionment.

    http://www.waow.com/story/32783883/looking-at-what-fuels-mob-mentality-after-riots-in-milwaukee
    Looking at what fuels mob mentality after riots in Milwaukee

    Howard Storm saw a mob of what he perceived as ghosts.....
    and their attitude was horrible...... this Deindividuation Theory may
    explain how a place in the afterlife / higher dimension of space time can
    become so hateful and violent.
     
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    I've had the powerful feeling for about a year that
    life forms of off the scale intelligence....... and capability.......
    are going to show YOU SIR...... some pretty unusual things over the coming months.......

    The evidence that seems to support Multiverse Theory..... is evidence that
    intelligences of astonishing power and capability do exist.......... they really like you a lot Sir.......

    more than your most enthusiastic fans here so......

    they are going to show you things that are going to astonish you......
    This video will help you get prepared...... I have listened to this three times....
    I usually listen to it while typing away here or in other forums.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqwFWD_Htfo

    Trump Chosen by God To Stop America's Destruction - Astounding 2011 Prophecy


    It is beginning..... and what is about to happen is nothing less than shocking.....

    Republican 881,274 – Democrat 760,003
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...oting-florida-120000-first-republicans-state/
    YUGE! Trump Leads Early Voting in Florida By 120,000 – A First For Republicans in The State


    .......
    If The Donald is given a landslide victory... the extreme left will go berzerk.......
    and the lives of a lot of Americans will be in danger until things begin to stabilize......

    The L. D. S. can be instrumental in helping to stabilize the situation....... they were awesome
    after Hurricane Katrina......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-could-utah-state-dollar-save-usa-dollar.html
    Could a Utah State Dollar save the USA Dollar?


    .....

    your idea on how the town of Sderot, Israel could be protected... that I quote in post #41.....could well become
    one of the types of proposals that could bring both right and left together in the aftermath of
    the Donald Trump landslide victory?!
     
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    AboveAlpha...... your profile page has so far had over 23,000 views.....
    and even mine has gotten over 13,000......

    This is quite a lot......
    I just took a look at the profile page of M.....2 for the sake of comparison....
    even though she has written 37,000 posts... she has had less than 7000
    views so far........

    There are obvious reasons for this......
    you and I get into topics that causes people to tend to want
    research us a little further..........

    I predict that you and I are going to have twice as many profile views over the next two years.....
    as we have already gotten......

    and here is one of the discussions that has amazing potential......
    AboveAlpha... Sir.... can you think of somebody who you could send to meet
    author and near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...mpaign-gains-momentum-g-o-p-can-reformed.html
    If Dannion Brinkley's campaign gains momentum.... the G.O.P. can be reformed!


    ......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...on-brinkley-v-p-2016-presiden-usa-2024-a.html
    Dannion Brinkley for V. P. in 2016 and President of the USA in 2024.
    Two time near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley has no idea that I am doing this….. but I do believe that when he eventually reads this discussion he will at the minimum seriously consider my offer.

    I believe that his Twilight Brigade is one of the most seriously cool charities that has recently been created in the United States.

    http://www.dannion.com/the-twilight-brigade/
    The Twilight Brigade


    ........

    I personally did not really notice The Donald's campaign until Mr. Dannion Brinkley wrote the following comment
    in reply to a question from me through Facebook:


     
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    HUMOR!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=463371&page=70&p=1066764278#post1066764278

     
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    Morons ?
    Look in the mirror if you wish to see one.
    You will see the greatest one that ever lived !

    :roflol:
     
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    Speaking of morons......
    could AboveAlpha's aliens be playing a joke on us.....
    are we stars in some sort of reality film series......
    are we being tested to see what we will do next?

    What kind of psychological profile can we create for what seems to be
    an intelligence of some sort..... that seems to be messing around with this
    USA election?

    AboveAlpha, for valid reason might suspect those aliens that he met that
    seemed to have a less than altruistic view of him and other humans.....?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=480997&page=4&p=1066771038#post1066771038
    Thread: Florida residents should consider Dr. Jill Stein and the Green Party.
     
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    Oh, no, Dennis, life is very real. And it's very down to Earth. And up in the air, but very normal.

    This election cycle has been very boring for me.

    I don't know if AboveAlpha ran into aliens. He just says he was exposed to the reality.

    If one knew everything the aliens do, that would be pretty weird. And strange what they can do... But I don't think they're interfering in the election.
     
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    I just got an update relevant to AboveAlpha's variation of Multiverse Theory that I think he may find interesting.

    It is over my head.... but I do find it intriguing.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=424926&page=11&p=1066960895#post1066960895
    Thread: The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Oh I just got an update related to your write up on Multiverse Theory that may be of interest to you.

    It is way over my head. Just scroll up for the link.
     
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    In a way.....
    the astonishing To Do List for the
    final Elijah... is something of a method of G-d proving H-mself / H-rself to be
    off the scale powerful.......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/auditions-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/
     
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    OK..... I have to admit that
    giving the name of an astonishingly unlikely President.......
    nine years before he becomes President........
    and then give wisdom and understanding to that man......
    that turns him into one of the best Presidents of the USA that
    America has ever had.........

    would rather impress me!




    http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word/5190
    Kim Clement: "GOD SAYS, 'TIME MAGAZINE WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO SAY WHAT I WANT THEM TO SAY'"
    By Kim Clement
    Apr 14, 2007




    Kim Clement prophesying about Donald Trump 2007
     
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    AboveAlpha....... Sir....... I am onto another big.......... proof or near proof of an off the scale
    relatively benevolent Intelligence being involved in humanity.

    Rabbi Judah ben Samuel, stated that the year 2017 was a JUBILEE YEAR!

    The full implications of what is to happen on Jubilee...... are so huge...... that if they
    come to pass then once the Jubilee year is over...... and the dust settles..... and the smoke
    clears away........ even Skeptics will be standing or sitting there thinking...... Wow..... that cannot
    all be pure coincidence!?

    ..........

    http://jewishstudies.eteacherbiblical.com/entering-2017-jerusalem/

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/just-5-years-till-end-times-commence/

    Now.... the very fact that the Jubilee Year is proclaimed on Yom Kippur......
    leaves the year 2017 to be subject to definition. The Jubilee Year may have
    began on Yom Kippur 2016 and may end on the day before Yom Kippur 2017 OR......
    the Jubilee Year could perhaps begin on Yom Kippur 2017 and end on the day before
    Yom Kippur 2018..... but either way........ I believe that we are close to something very important
    that will prove that the Jewish Bible does indeed tap into an astonishingly high level of intelligence,
    power and ultimate truth!


    Leviticus 25:8


    And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years.

    Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land.

    And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family."
     
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    And now for something rather strange about all this.... You Sir.... .have set me up
    in such a way that I can offer a somewhat logical explanation as to how
    the entire world economy could go through an astonishingly positive total paradigm shift over the next
    four...... or perhaps sixteen months.



    This number is so colossal that figuring out a way that would be a win - win - win - win method of distributing all
    those Petro-Dollars could well fulfill the Jubilee literally, as well as in spirit and intent.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...tia-israel-and-jordan.506627/#post-1067598747

    Jamie Baillie, Nova Scotia, Israel and Jordan.

    President Donald J. Trump has been predicted to have a massive Cyrus type of calling on his life........
    this is interesting because the Cyrus type..... is predicted to not really know the G-d of Abraham.


    Isaiah 45:4

    For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

    Isaiah 45:5

    I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:


    http://warriorsinternational.com/info/donald-trump-a-prophet-in-the-making-by-reeni-mederos/

    Donald Trump, A Prophet in the Making by Reeni Mederos.
     
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