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Should a rapist be punished more if he takes her virginity?

Discussion in 'Women's Rights' started by kazenatsu, Jul 23, 2022.

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  1. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    You've heard of dildos and other phallic objects, right? Use your imagination.
     
    UntilNextTime, Jul 25, 2022
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    I think most everyone agrees that a female rape of another female is less bad than a male rape. (There's no male sexual organ to go in)

    In this case, I believe it should be viewed as a partial taking away of her virginity. Exactly what percentage is probably a discussion for a separate thread.
     
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  3. UntilNextTime

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    There's also very little chance of pregnancy through the ordeal too.
     
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    How does interrogating a virgin about her sexual history humiliate her? (Supposedly she has no prior sexual history, right?)

    Especially any more than she will already be humiliated being interrogated about the details of the alleged sexual assault on the witness stand.
     
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  5. UntilNextTime

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    Maybe her projected 'perspective' of being one, would be exposed as not being a virgin. The Jenga tower comes falling down, that is one reality.
     
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    I don't agree at all. A sexual assault is a sexual assault, and the genders of the assailant and victim are irrelevant. The punishment should be the same.
     
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    So a sexual assault on a child is no worse than a sexual assault on a grown woman?

    Current law in most areas draws a differentiation between the two.


    Or are you only just discussing gender here? I think that might be the subject of discussion for another thread.
     
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    A sexual assault is no "less bad" no matter who the participants are. I only referenced gender because you said that a female assaulting another female is somehow "less bad" than a male assault on a female would be, which I think is absurd.
     
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    It is worse on a child. A child's innocents is violated, and the trauma on such a young mind is much more damaging because they have not developed coping skills yet.
     
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    It can also easily be argued that the trauma is greater on a female who is a virgin, and had no prior sexual experiences yet.
     
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    kazenatsu, Jul 25, 2022
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    Agreed.
     
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    why do you think that is important that a victim prove they were a virgin or not before they were raped?
     
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    They don't have to. Unless they want the rapist to get additional punishment for taking away their virginity.

    To a lot of females raised in progressivism, that's not very important to them, so they may not bother.
     
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    Becuse 24 is considered a mature adult with a mature adult brain and decision making capability
     
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    Why do you believe it is a factor and how would the victim prove in court they were a “virgin “
     
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    Like Woody Allen and his adopted daughter?
     
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    ISTM Kaz has à worrying interest in rape.
     
    Pixie, Jul 26, 2022
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    Dear gods but this is…………

    Do some reading around the subject please!
     
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    And sex with youth and “virginity”
     
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    Which is an emotional response, and not a basis. After all parents had an emotional response to their little girl marrying a black man and made it illegal. I'm asking for a good solid basis for why a power differential changes to insignificant at the adult birthday point. Why should we not enforce that differential throughout the ages? 50 years difference means that the older person has a power differential that is too great, for example.
     
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    Actually, in many states, it's not legal, unless she was no longer his step daughter at the time. Many states count legal relations as incest as well.
     
    Maquiscat, Jul 26, 2022
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    I meant the castration part. That's why I bolded that part, to draw attention to that specific thing. I am well aware of how a woman can rape other woman and even how she can rape a man without the use of phallic objects.
     
    Maquiscat, Jul 26, 2022
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    Wow! Just.....wow! Do you honestly think that the trauma that a woman raped is any less because it is another woman who raped her? Dude, are you even old enough to be posting on these forums?
     
    Maquiscat, Jul 26, 2022
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    Show the data for that. The trauma of rape is not the sexual experience itself, but the violation of the control over one's body and the physical attack. It becomes even worse when the person's body response in a sexual manner, in essence the body betraying the person because they don't want to be doing the act. An on top of that, there are the people who make the BS claim that if the body responded then it could not have been rape. Sexual experience does not matter because rape is a crime of power not sex.
     
    Maquiscat, Jul 26, 2022
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    So then this somehow prevents a power differential, at least based upon age gap?
     
    Maquiscat, Jul 26, 2022
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