Should America Atomic Bomb China?

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Should America Atomic Bomb China?

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  2. No

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    read the OP
     
  2. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    I did. You apparently missed this part of the OP:

    "Hiroshima and Nagasaki were acts of premeditated mass murder unleashing a weapon of intrinsic criminality. It was justified by lies that form the bedrock of 21st century U.S. war propaganda, casting a new enemy, and target – China"
     
  3. Dayton3

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    Why would be attack China's civilian population? Do you think they are bad people or something like that?
     
  4. Dayton3

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    If a nuclear conflict is going to be fought isn't it better to strike first, strike second, launch some more on any stragglers missed by the first attacks...until there is nothing left of the enemies nuclear arsenal?

    Where is the "moral superiority" of allowing millions of your own citizens to die due to nuclear attacks. ?
     
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    Americans have been dragged into wars too many times by war hype.
    MSM Fake News will always serve the military industrial complex long enough to start a war.
    IMO, at this point, Americans should oppose any preemptory first strike of any kind.
     
  6. Dayton3

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    In your opinion, what WOULD justify a preemptive nuclear strike by the U.S. on China (or anyone else)?
     
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    Nothing. I would oppose a nuclear strike unless China begins aggressive warfare against the US.
     
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    All I can say is, I'll un-know what I do know when I know that there's something different that's credible to know. How's that?

    That said... hey, I'm an old guy, and I like to think that part of the reason I made it this long was, indeed, because I always employed a healthy dose of "healthy skepticism". But, I save my "willing suspension of disbelief" for the movies...(with apologies to Aristotle).
     
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    why do you hate the Chinese people soo much?
     
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    What makes you think I hate the Chinese? I just want their nuclear arsenal destroyed. Along with the nuclear arsenals of Russia, North Korea, India and Pakistan.
     
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    ~ The Chinese Communist Party is the problem. Sadly many people living in China are blind to the truth of the outside world. However more are being exposed to what is actually happening with Hong Kong and Taiwan. Hopefully there will be a revolution to take down the government and restore democracy.
     
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    revolutions in China are often murderous bloodbaths.
     
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    ~ I think now is the time. The Wuhan virus has made China many enemies. I think there is infighting among the CCP. I believe Xi Ping will be "sacrificed" for show but unlikely it will change many minds .
     
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    i have called for a preemptive nuclear attack on china

    they did first strike with the wuhan flu which was no accident.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterforce

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-emptive_nuclear_strike
     
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    ~ I think it is becoming more and more obvious that this is true. China and India are in conflict at present - both have nuclear weapons.
     
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    So basically let's genocide a whole people because of far-fetched hypothesis, genocide who would lead without few doubts to the demise of the USA. If any country would start to nuke another one as they wish, there would be dealt for what they are, a criminal and lunatic state.
    The consequences would be the biggest disaster for both the american and chinese people.
     
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    why did they also "attack" their friends in Iran and Russia????

    your theory, is absolute insane bullshit.
     
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    if the USA was threatening to nuke China due to the virus, China should nuke us first.
     
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    Now you are calling for China to start an aggressive nuclear war.
     
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    IMO, if and when China goes to war with the US almost all options should be on the table except another land war in Asia. IOW, a preemptive strike should not be an option for the USG.
     
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    Why did Nazi Germany attack its ally the USSR?
     
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    The USG could encourage Ecuador to start seizing Chinese vessels violating their maritime borders.
    The CCP reaction might be instructive.
     
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    No one is advocating genocide of the Chinese. According to some nuclear weapons experts writing in Foreign Affairs magazine, the U.S. could destroy all Chinese ICBMs while killing only a few hundred thousand Chinese at most
     
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    Yes, that's their theory, hypothesis, barely that. If it fail and it turn in a more larged scale nuclear war, that's at least millions of life that are directly threatened. You don't take risk over millions of life with only simple guess.
    The diplomatic consequences would be a disaster. Even inside the USA it would create strife. Maybe more at the left wing, but even for a part of the right wing. A large part of the population of the muslim world would be more than happy to see two country they hate attacking each other. Southern american population, I'm not sure they like much more the USA. Even countries that are threatened by China, South Korea, Japan and Taiwan would never approve that. Even Europe and Canada, which is the part of the world the closest of USA, it would be not understood.

    And for chinese population, such an attack would be a humiliation they would keep in mind for decades if not centuries. The Chinese government (even if a preemptive strike would kill all the CCP leaders, they would be soon or late another one) could without any difficulties demonize the USA.

    China is problematic but that would be a solution much worse than the problem.

    You can remove "in China", peacefull revolutions are an exception. 1789 french revolution, 1917 soviet revolution, that were both bloodbath with more than dubious. That's why I see left wing activists who fantasy constantly on revolution as dangerous lunatics, especially that people who fantasy on revolution are often cowards that don't move from the "fantasy" case toward the practice. They like revolution yes, but they would prefer others to die for.
     
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