Should Christians judge God?

Should Christians judge God?

Many have read the scriptures and come away at the end with a poor impression of God’s morals. This judgement stands apart of their belief or non-belief in God and the bible God is rejected purely on moral grounds.

Many Christians on the other hand seem give God a pass and exonerate their God’s more outrageous and immoral actions. I myself have noticed that Christians have a double set of morals. One for God and another for man. They praise and adore God for the same actions that they condemn man for. I see this as Christians judging God incorrectly.

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I have been told on a number of occasions, only by Christians, ---- that inferior mind like our human minds cannot judge God and that we should not even try to judge God as his ways are not our ways, which flies in the face of ----- as above, so below. This indicates that the morality of God is the same as the morality of man and scriptures seem to agree.

Gen 3;22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:

Is it good advice to not judge God as Christians say, --- or should God be judged?

Regards
DL

 

it's all very grubby and problematic, ain't it.

one of the really interesting elements of this conflict is that xians claim we need god's morality because we have none of our own. that without god we wouldn't know wrong from right.

the big question, obviously, is - if we have no morality, and can't determine wrong from right, how do know god's morality is right?

 

Yes and to say we need God for morality is a judgement call. Catch 22.

Regards
DL

 

MANY people TRY!.., to judge “god”, Jesus , and some Jehovah God ,(Exo. 6 :3). if if they feel good about it, … it's their world! and their life if they live to see the end, MANY would wish they had did more listening, and less trying to judge God. We can't even touch satan on our own , we know satan can be touch by Jesus and Jehovah God. This is why we are warned to stay close to him ,(Ephe. 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles, (tricks) of the devil). No Human or spirit being can touch God, in ANY way. Jehovah God does love us, (1John4:8), but sadly MANY, even some who call themselves christians, take his love, as a sign of weakness. But we ALL need to understand, he NOT one to be played with ,(Gal. 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap). And if ANY christian think Jesus will stand behind “christians” , who live as the world does ,(1John 2:15,16 and James 4:4). instead of being NOT of the world as Jesus wasn't ,(John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world).

Yet they claim to have... the “gift”, NOT be destroyed by him, they're sadly fooled ,(Matt. 7:22,23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity). You speak of giving God a “pass”, who are we to even think!.. we can “give god a pass?” understand ,he gave us... life. He doesn't need ANYTHING from humans, What he ask of us, it's because he wants it. And of course Jehovah God knows the difference between wrong and right. What was refer to at Gen 3:22 ,was the fact that NOW, mankind would NOW do wrong, (especially if it's good to them), that right, which would be GOOD, to Jehovah God. This is happening now. You thing the first couple didn't KNOW what was wrong or right? They KNEW NOT to touch a certain tree, and for a while they didn't! Most people wants to believe that, as soon as they were created, they touch the tree. In truth, they were in Eden for a long time, NOT.. touching it. It was ONLY after satan had been watch them, and wanted to start something, using a lie that eve touch it ,(Gen.3:1-5).

Also Jehovah God mind is far more advance than humans, even if MANY refuse to believe so ,(Isa. 55:8,9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts). And if one understood why Jehovah did what he did, (“outrageous and immoral actions&#8221. They would KNOW, it was because of HUMANS ,selfish, and disobedient ways which brought on Jehovah anger. Regardless of some men wanting to believe they are equal to Jehovah and Jesus, they're not! And as long as I can breath, I will!... “exonerate”, place Jesus and his Father up high, and love them more than mankind and myself. Because I know, his Powers are greater than ours. And it's him , through Jesus who will judge us when that time come. At that point ,ANY who believe they could stand firm against them, feel free to do so. Maybe satan will stand beside those he has against Jehovah and Jesus. Though I know he wouldn't ,he didn't stand with his earthly family when the flood came. I'm not afraid to try and judge God, but why would I?, I understand why he did and will soon do. peace

 

No. One of the biggest things that God is trying to teach Christians is to trust in him. Believe that he will do what is best for you and in the end, everything will work out. We are to put our faith completely on him and attain not to our own knowledge. Judge God not, for he is a God and without him we are the dead! If we judge him, then we have been given his divine son for repentance for remission of all sins

 

Does what God say not have to be judged?

If you do not judge what is said, how would you know that God is not lying to you or that the one speaking is not Satan?

Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
1Kings 22:23

Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets.
2 Chron 18:22

Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people.
Jer 4:10

O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. Jer 20:7

And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.
Ezekiel 14:9

For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.
Thessalonians 2:11

To me, God’s worse lie was to Adam and Eve. He told them they could eat of the tree of life and then reneged and in a real sense murdered them by denying them a remedy

Regards
DL

 

You say not to judge God yet you have judged that he is God in the first place and also judged that without him we are dead.

Why can you judge and at the same time say we should not?

Regards
DL

 

By choosing this path you have judged God to be trustworthy and scriptures equally so.
Judgment can not be avoided.

 

Response: We do not judge that he is GOD, we walk by faith. And if you don't believe in God then you don't walk by faith it is your choice. God has already said some will choose not to believe, it is already written!

 

You are saying that judgement is the same as faith. That is not true

 

You have judged God to be reliable, have you not?

 

::sigh::: again faith is not judgement. I am not judging God..

 

So what are you saying?
You have faith in spite of your judgment?
How can you avoid judging what you believe?

 

Did you miss the part where I said, I don't judge God? Faith and judgement are different. Two different words... believers walk by faith not by judgement. That's why believers will experience afterlife, because they walk by faith and live in the spirit and not in the flesh and of the world. I will put it to you this way, after performing miracles Jesus said if you can not believe in the miracles that he does on earth, how can you believe in those things in heaven. One can not, and thus can't say they are walking by faith but they are walking by judgement.

 

I'm trying to remain respectful, but that doesn't respond to what I asked.

 

Because you are not understanding that Faith does not involve judgement. When you separate the two, you will understand. Then maybe even understand that it costs you nothing but is given to you, you don't have to judge or analyze it!

 

Your decision to honor your faith shows a judgment in you that it is a benefit to you.
You have judged your faith as a positive thing, and share that judgment with others when you tell them they are wasting their time on here sharing their lack of belief. You have judged your position to be positive and theirs to be negative.

 

::sigh::: you still don't get it? Faith DOESN'T come into judgement.

 

But judgment does come into faith.
You can't avoid it.

 

This has nothing to do with me. Have you not read the bible??? Do you not understand there IS a BIG GOLF between faith and judgement? Do you not even believe your own eyes that they are two different words with opposite results? Just how much more are you willing to close your eyes and say, ' I don't see the truth?" For God's word is truth and there is no lie in it.

 

That is your judgment.

 

You refuse God's word
Won't believe your own eyes
Refuse websters dictionary

and don't see how all this was predicted in the bible yet still refuse to turn to God in faith

I will leave you be

 

if ones father stood by and watched their child walk in front of a Bus and get hit and could of prevented it, but choose not too... would that be moral

what if God did the same was he moral...

there is two standards for sure

and what about God telling a man to kill his son.. then later sending someone to say he was just kidding ... moral? we would jail someone that did that....


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Is BIG GOLF anything like PUTT PUTT?
I really enjoy both.

 

you judged that xianity is right and all others wrong. you judged this based on your judgement that the judgement of the people who wrote your book was sound, and then judged what they wrote.

now that we've cleared that up, could you answer BB's question please. why is it ok to judge god every step of the way in, then it's not ok?