Fine, but don't assess my argument on a specific issue I did not make, ie., that of the baker. That is what you call a 'strawman argument'.
They are equal as any activity, for example, baseball or football, are equal in civil society. You think you can, but you really can't. Unless you qualify the statement at the time you make it, It will appear as a slight against gays. I'm just explaining to you how the LGBT will perceive your statement, in general. When you make a statement like that, at the time you make it ( not later ) you need to qualify it AT the time you make it. It's like when Seinfeld might have made fun of a gay, though inadvertently doing it, and realizing he did it, he would always say "not that there is anything wrong with that". You need to be sensitive to the other side, or that's how you will be perceived. And besides, see, the question comes to my mind is, why do you feel it needs to be encouraged? People are what are they are. See? This idea that you THINK it needs to be encouraged, THAT is the problem, right there. That is why LGBT people will take your statement, without qualification, as a disparagement against them. They will think you are 'encouraging heterosexuality because you think there is something wrong with homosexuality'. In fact, you have already told us that you think there is something wrong with it. Right? If that is true, and I think it is true, it would not be unreasonable to conclude you have animus. .
I think eating liver is a disgusting behavior. So do many others. Based on that, should eating liver also be banned?
Therefore, at this point in time, you are publicly stating that you have never had sex with anyone except for the sole purpose of breeding? Is that your position? You are Monday morning quarterbacking. You have no idea what you do when faced with that situation in real life so you can take a guess but it's meaningless. Why is your right Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness any more "special" than anybody else born with those same inalienable rights? And, the best way not to have sex with someone of the same gender is to not have sex with someone of the same gender. Why are you concerned about what other people choose to do in their sex lives and relationships?
Those in Florida certainly don't want children being "groomed". The law has more to do with that than, "don't say gay"... which I understand isn't even referenced in the law.
This post is not about "rights" MJ DAVIES it's a free country. You can enjoy about any perversion you desire. It's about should we encourage the homosexual act. I am against that. I guess you are for it.
Actually — if you can even bother to read the thread title — it is about openly discouraging it. Very few people believe we should be encouraging homosexuality, or really any sexual activity outside of safe sex (or for those afflicted with unnatural religious preference, abstinence). The question is should it be discouraged.
That doesn't make sense. The fact that we are a free country means we all have the same rights - Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. You can pursue happiness your way and other people can pursue happiness their way. Childishness aside, this topic and my posts have nothing to do with my personal life. The question, AGAIN, is "Should homosexuality be discouraged?" OK. Duly noted. Again, childish. The problem with these types of questions is they start with the foundation that one person's "world view" is somehow more important than anybody else's perspective and that's not true. Let's say that I like chocolate ice cream and you like vanilla ice cream. Why should your dislike of chocolate ice cream mean that I have to choke down vanilla ice cream? If you aren't paying for my ice cream or babysitting it in your home freezer and never have to touch it or look at or talk to it, why do you care that I like chocolate ice cream? Further, why is it any of your business as long as my chocolate ice cream cone and I aren't breaking any ice cream laws? Why can't you have vanilla ice cream and not think about my freezer full of chocolate ice cream? Are you bored? Maybe a hobby other than being childish online and judging other people might make you feel a bit happier inside, Y.
Plain and simple then.....it should be discouraged......or rather Heterosexual relationships should be encouraged, especially those in the bond of marriage commitment between one man and one women. It is the building block of family and a strong productive society.
Guess you post and don't understand your own words. You quoted and know what the post is about. Discouraging homosexual behavior, in my view is a virtue. It is yor right to engage in it. You can also drink yourself to oblivion. It is your right but I would discourage it. The Apostle Paul stated something to the effect, "I am at liberty to do whatever I want but not all things are edifying". I'll go with that and leave you to your "childish endeavors" to behave anyway you want.
It seems if I don't discourage homosexual behavior, I must accept it. If I accept it, I must acknowledge there are those that actually "encourage it". Those that indulge in that behavior love the company. So boys can be girls and girls can be boys and the new culture wants my nod of approval. Sorry, you won't get it. We have a Supreme Court nominee who won't even define what a women is "because she is not a biologist. Well I am not a veternarian ad I know for a fact she is not a dog! On the other hand, she does not acknowledge she is a women herself even though the only reason she was nominated in part was because she IS a woman. The other part she is black. The problem here is that I believe homosexual behavior should be discouraged and others here will not accept that. This "new culture" is bending the truth in every way they possibly can. I think it is so we will accept any perversion they can dream up.
It's none of your business what other people do in bed. It's a kind of perversion to fantasise about other people's sex lives in any case. Should we discourage some of the things that straight people do, which are the same things that gay people do? What does discourage even mean? Cameras in everyone's bedrooms (or bathrooms or kitchens or lounges)? People to monitor them and call the cops? 1984 all over again. Mind your own damn business.
Same sex couples have families, they care for their children and the children thrown away by your prized heterosexual “building block[‘s] of family”. If anything needs to be discouraged it is the scourge of bigots believing they should be able to dictate how others live especially when their own views are what is dismantling society.
Hold on there partner. You get pretty defensive there as if I am attacking your lifestyle. We have a difference of opinion. I agree that the abhorant behavior should be discouraged and not modeled before children. You live any way you want to (and you will). I'm not "dictating" anything, but I will continue to promote the idea men are men and women are women.
Sorry, I thought the point of this thread was to examine opinions. Guess you aren't for that. You have your own ideas and behaviors. I'm not conforming to yours. Go pound sand.
Oh I didn’t mean for you to feel I was attacking your unnatural lifestyle. Homosexuality is completely natural as it is found in nature (look up the definition). We do not have a difference of opinion — people like you were the reason gay people were arrested and murdered throughout history. It is an evil and abhorrent ideal. I have no idea what you mean by “men are men and women are women” — we are not discussing transgender issues but rather homosexuality. Again, keep up with the thread.
When you are attracted to a male and desire to take him down the "Hershey Highway", you encourage your behavior. I would discourage a young man from following your path or being convinced by you that that is something "natural". I find it comical you want to describe my lifestyle/behavior as unnatural because it is exactly how you got here! It may be natural for some animals but it is also natural for bears to eat their young. For some animals it is natural to roll in or ingest their feces. I prefer the higher life form. Ever look at an electric plug? One end is male and one is female. So in this situation, one of you plays the part of "female". Then again, you probably switch around to really confuse things. I do not suggest we arrest you or murder you. However you suggest I must accept your lifestyle as the new norm. Not happenin'!
I don't care about you adults that have made up your minds that boogering the same sex is normal and acceptable behavior. I am concerned about young children that are often confused and what you and society want to model for them.
Not all homosexual men have anal sex. Very few homosexual women do. I know you only have two arrows in your quiver — ”it’s icky” and your chosen religious preference that your ilk have perverted the very words to push an agenda — and one of those shows your own personal sexual fantasy while the other is just outright fantasy. Look up the definition of natural. Homosexuality is, religion isn’t. If you are going to try and slur others at least make sure a misuse of the English language doesn’t paint you as a fool to just be mocked. (Not saying you are of course) Homosexuality will never be the norm as it is fairly consistent across history but only around 10%. Again, definitions — you should try looking them up. Neither of which have anything to do with the discussion of trying to discourage behavior that is likely innate and does not harm others. Your language (unnatural) was used to disenfranchise interracial couples not so long ago — unnatural… Get a new talking point
Chicken livers are mighty tasty. Order you some at KFC and put some of their brown gravy on them and have yourself a proper chow down.
