Should homosexuality be illegal?

They are free to marry anyone they like. I saw a guy marry his horse once. Marriage license isn't required to exercise any freedom you like. You are talking about the tax breaks and governmental entitlements that accompany government recognition of marriage. Tax breaks and governmental entitlements aren't freedoms.

 

Soooo simply quote my post where I ever did, to show us you aren't just spewing more lies as usual.

 

Quote my post where I ever made any such claim to show us you are not simply knocking down your favorite strawman.

 

again... religious marriage are nothing in the eyes of the law.... only legal marriages have any legal meaning

next of kin rights, ect....

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see what I mean?

 

The marriage between a guy and his horse wasn't a religious affair and next of kin rights aren't freedoms, sooooo not sure of your point.

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Not really, other than demonstrating that you cant quote any such post of mine.

 

and of course you'll pretend this means something other than what it says.

your entire argument for banning same sex couples is that they can't procreate (which they can). But of course without a requirement for the ability to procreate this is a completely invalid argument, as opposite sex couples that have no ability to procreate could marry.

This is why you lost in court.

 

You are making my point that you edit my posts with the intent to deceive.

By Definition- matrimony includes all marriage
Merriam Webster:
Matrimony
the state of being married : marriage
Marriage
:the relationship that exists between a husband and a wife

: a similar relationship between people of the same sex

: a ceremony in which two people are married to each other


Since couples- straight or gay in the United States can marry- by definition matrimony includes couples same gender or opposite gender.

 

No- he was talking about legal marriage. Someone 'marrying his horse' is legally meaningless.

Same gender couples fought for their right to the same legal marriage as my wife and I have- regardless of whether there are any tax breaks or not.

 

Again- here is the definition of matrimony- right out of Webster


Merriam Webster:
Matrimony
the state of being married : marriage

So what is the definition of marriage?
Again Webster
Marriage
: the relationship that exists between a husband and a wife

: a similar relationship between people of the same sex

: a ceremony in which two people are married to each other


Since couples- straight or gay in the United States can marry- by definition matrimony includes couples same gender or opposite gender.

 

Yes- to Dixon- the law treating same sex couples the same as opposite gender couples- with absolutely no additional laws- is bigger government.

He must still be pissed off that Loving v. Virginia and the 'bigger government' when states were forced to treat mixed race couples equally in marriage.

 

And since this thread has devolved into just another of Dixon's tirades against gay marriage rather than the actually topic- I will go back to it- and try one more time- because it is a fascinating question for the posters here.

Should homosexuality be illegal?

Remember, for centuries in America, our primarily Christian law makers passed laws based upon their interpretation of the Bible- making homosexuality illegal.

Only when the Supreme Court ruled otherwise were the laws in predominantly Conservative and predominately Christian states overturned- because Americans have the right to private sexual conduct between consenting adults.

However, as recently as I believe 2 or 3 years ago Louisiana refused to repeal their anti-gay Sodomy laws- because of pressure by Christian Conservative groups.

So there still exists a desire by many Christian Conservatives to tell Americans what consenting adults can or cannot do in our bedrooms.

What about the posters here?

Rather than continuing to indulge Dixon's pointless derailing another thread to gay marriage- address the topic of the thread.

Illegal- or not illegal?

 

a preacher married them, so it was a religious marriage vs a legal one

 

I doubt he was a preacher.

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More like thrown bait.

 

Heaven forbid I suggest post about the topic rather than let you derail another thread to be about your obsession with gay marriage.

 

greatdane injected gay marriage into the thread. I merely commented upon her post. And nobody yet has refuted my claims.

 

No one is equal to the sheer amount of stupidity that would be required to refute your claims.

 

So to bring this back to the thread- do you think that homosexuality should be illegal in the United States?

 

So what do you figure got struck down in Lawrence?

 

That doesn't answer my question. You said there were never laws preventing gay marriage, and I said then why have gay couples been denied licenses until recently. I fail to see what a person's orgasm or reproductive ambitions have to do with contract law.

 

No to making it illegal.

No to the word marriage being part of the lexicon of this country when it comes to them.

 

Thank you! Yes, as late as 2013 there were still anti sodomy laws on the books in a few states. Florida still has a cohabitation law that technically you're breaking if you live romantically with someone and you aren't married. These things aren't ancient laws, they are recent. So I'm curious if people still think it should be illegal. Christian dominated countries like Uganda still consider homosexuality illegal, and while the death penalty isn't used as much there for breaking that law, it still is sometimes as is life in prison.

 

I find it sad you even have to ask, society still have so much prejudice when it comes to sex... I would like to see a world where there is no such thing as being... homosexual... or heterosexual....only sexual..."shrug" and certainly in this world laws don't determine what you do or don't do sexually... a non issue.

 

Did you see the fine Star Trek the New Generation episode, "The Outcast"
that dealt so nicely with Gender issues ???

It was really good...

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Outcast_(episode)

https://youtu.be/mMqGlSjAbwA

 

What two consenting adults do in their own bedroom is entirely up to them. I always thought conservatives believed in smaller government. The third tenet of a tradition conservative which I am one is, "Keeping government out of a citizen's private business and lives." That is as long as one is doing no harm to another.

I consider Barry Goldwater as my political mentor, I was too young to vote back in 1964, you had to be 21 then. But before gay marriage was even thought of, the idea of gays serving in the military was. Goldwater once said in response to that, "You do not have to be straight to shoot straight." I think that about sums it up for traditional conservatives, now neo-conservatives are a different animal.